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On Dec 29, 4:47*pm, "antsuxx" wrote:
My thoughts to, i have driven subs *and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!! There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer fleets. This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe gear. IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink. |
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On Dec 29, 4:55*pm, 1506 wrote:
On Dec 29, 4:47*pm, "antsuxx" wrote: My thoughts to, i have driven subs *and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!! There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer fleets. *This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe gear. *IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink. Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Some companies forget that the purpose of rail travel is to get fare- paying passengers from A to B. If they don't get to their destination then they get kinda ****ed off. Just an idea.... McK. |
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On 29/12/2010 17:54, McKevvy wrote:
On Dec 29, 4:55 pm, wrote: On Dec 29, 4:47 pm, wrote: My thoughts to, i have driven subs and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!! There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer fleets. This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe gear. IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink. Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. Great idea otherwise... -- Graeme Wall This account not read, substitute trains for rail. Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net |
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Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. Great idea otherwise... And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"? I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the difference between a train and a locomotive. -- Merry Christmas Roger Traviss Photos of the late GER: - http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:- http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...Great_Eastern/. |
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On Dec 29, 7:03*pm, "Roger Traviss"
wrote: Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise... And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"? I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the difference between a train and a locomotive. And what does this "solution" do for the third rail? |
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On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote:
Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise... And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"? I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the difference between a train and a locomotive. -- Merry Christmas Roger Traviss Photos of the late GER: -http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/. Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow what noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle? Happy New Year! |
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"Sailor" schreef
Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow what noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle? ____________ The French word "traîner" means: drag, pull, haul, tow, and so "train" is exactly the apt word. The first sense of the French word "train" is a string, series, or line of things, in sequence or linked together. Colin Youngs Brussels |
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On 30 déc, 14:07, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
"Sailor" schreef Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle? ____________ The French word "tra ner" means: drag, pull, haul, tow, and so "train" is exactly the apt word. The first sense of the French word "train" is a string, series, or line of things, in sequence or linked together. Colin Youngs Brussels I so agree! My problem arrives with equating drag,pull,haul & tow with push and propel &(shove, ram etc)! |
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On Dec 30, 10:28*am, Sailor wrote:
On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote: Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise.... And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"? I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the difference between a train and a locomotive. -- Merry Christmas Roger Traviss Photos of the late GER: -http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/. Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle? Happy New Year! Derived from is not the same as same as. How does the OED define train? |
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On 30 déc, 15:59, Jeff wrote:
On Dec 30, 10:28*am, Sailor wrote: On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote: Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice. Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise... And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"? I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the difference between a train and a locomotive. -- Merry Christmas Roger Traviss Photos of the late GER: -http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/. Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle? Happy New Year! Derived from is not the same as same as. How does the OED define train?- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - My only English Dictionary (they are so rare in France) indicates train as "that which is drawn or follows" which of course is the French definition of Train in proper French -- does the modified Belgian version say otherwise? Do you see where my query originates ! Can a DVT be said to draw a train propelled from the rear? |
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