"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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"1506" wrote in message
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There's no
fundamental reason why it would be any less reliable than Crossrail's
currently planned GWML services to Maidenhead, which will also run on a
mixed traffic railway, including freight, and other services running to
Reading and beyond.

Your comments suggest you haven't really got much of a clue about how
Crossrail will work on the GW reliefs.

Does anybody? Feel free to cite a working timetable post Crossrail
and WR electrification.

I can link to the currently proposed Network Rail track access option for
the Crossrail to Maidenhead situation, without GW electrification. There
are three 24 hr schedules in the document, for Crossrail, residual GW and
GE
passenger services, and for freight:

http://tinyurl.com/38s2j9q

Clearly if Crossrail gets extended to Reading, some of the DMU services
will
disappear, but the freight will still be there.

Paul




That's very interesting, thank you.

As an aside I find it intriguing that the first item in schedule 2 is for a
class 180 and that is the only reference to a 180 that I can find.

In message , at
23:56:18 on Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Martin Rich
remarked:
While I'm familiar with the American usage of 'bathroom' to cover all
types of bathrooms/loos etc, whether or not they contain a bathtub, I
hadn't come across these niceties of 'full' and 'half' baths.

There's also a "Jack and Jill" bathroom, which is an en-suite shared
between two bedrooms.

Note that Americans will also "wash up" in a bathroom (sic), whereas
Brits tend to do that in a sink in the kitchen!
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 09:03:55 on Fri, 7 Jan
2011, Miles Bader remarked:

I hadn't come across these niceties of 'full' and 'half' baths.

I've only seen those used in real-estate advertisements, presumably to
avoid using a "low" word like toilet (which is what a "half bath" is...).

In US-English a WC is also called a bathroom (especially in public
places like shops and restaurants). So in a house you do need to be able
to distinguish between 'full' and 'half'. It also allows a more compact
advert because you can simply say (eg) "2.5 bathrooms".

In the UK the half-bath is normally called a "cloakroom" in real-estate
speak. Ironically, many in older houses really are a conversion of a
room off the entrance hall for storing coats; which I suppose they'd
have to describe as a "coat cupboard".
--
Roland Perry

On Jan 9, 2:39*pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:03:55 on Fri, 7 Jan
2011, Miles Bader remarked:

I hadn't come across these niceties of 'full' and 'half' baths.

I've only seen those used in real-estate advertisements, presumably to
avoid using a "low" word like toilet (which is what a "half *bath" is....).

In US-English a WC is also called a bathroom (especially in public
places like shops and restaurants). So in a house you do need to be able
to distinguish between 'full' and 'half'. It also allows a more compact
advert because you can simply say (eg) "2.5 bathrooms".

In the UK the half-bath is normally called a "cloakroom" in real-estate
speak.

Ah yes, from the Latin 'cloaca'...

In message Roland Perry
was claimed to have wrote:

In message , at
23:56:18 on Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Martin Rich
remarked:
While I'm familiar with the American usage of 'bathroom' to cover all
types of bathrooms/loos etc, whether or not they contain a bathtub, I
hadn't come across these niceties of 'full' and 'half' baths.

There's also a "Jack and Jill" bathroom, which is an en-suite shared
between two bedrooms.

There are other even weirder combinations too. My grandmother's place
has a main bathroom with doors opening into the living room and guest
bedroom, while the master bedroom has it's own full bath.

In message , at 19:22:32 on
Sun, 9 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:
There's also a "Jack and Jill" bathroom, which is an en-suite shared
between two bedrooms.

There are other even weirder combinations too. My grandmother's place
has a main bathroom with doors opening into the living room and guest
bedroom,

One design I've seen a few times is a "guest suite" behind a double
garage, where along the back wall of the house there's a bedroom in the
corner, then a bathroom en-suite to the bedroom, but also with a door to
the corridor leading to the hall/kitchen public area.
--
Roland Perry

On 10/01/2011 08:52, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:22:32 on
Sun, 9 Jan 2011, DevilsPGD
remarked:
There's also a "Jack and Jill" bathroom, which is an en-suite shared
between two bedrooms.

There are other even weirder combinations too. My grandmother's place
has a main bathroom with doors opening into the living room and guest
bedroom,

One design I've seen a few times is a "guest suite" behind a double
garage, where along the back wall of the house there's a bedroom in the
corner, then a bathroom en-suite to the bedroom, but also with a door to
the corridor leading to the hall/kitchen public area.


This thread reminds me of a soap add about 20 years ago. Opened with a
shot of an Eastern European steam train battling through a blizzard.
Cut to a shot of an interior of one of the carriages with a young lady
taking a bath in an opulent tub using Cussons Imperial Leather soap.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail
Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net

"Recliner" wrote in message
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"1506" wrote in message

On Jan 5, 12:58 pm, "Recliner" wrote:
"amogles" wrote in message



On 30 Dez. 2010, 20:56, Philip wrote:
On 30/12/2010 11:13, 1506 wrote:

And how do you think the Bristol and Norwich passengers will feel
about travelling in rapid transit trains with no bathrooms, many
draughty doors, and limited seating?

Bathrooms?! How many trains have bathrooms that you can think of?

The Orient Express?

Actually, the Venice Simplon-Orient-Express train is quite poorly
equipped in this regard. Cabins only have washbasins, with
lavatories at the end of the carriages.

So, a bathroom at the end of each car. I assume that there are shower
facilities on board?

Unfortunately not (one of the reasons I wouldn't contemplate a trip on
it). From www.orient-express.com/web/vsoe/journey_questions.jsp#122965
"Are there showers on board the Orient-Express?

No. These are the original 1920s carriages and as such do not have all the
modern amenities such as showers. Each cabin contains a wash basin with
hot and cold water."

However, the more modern Eastern & Oriental Express does have en suite
bathrooms with showers and toilet. The even more luxurious Rovos Rail in
South Africa offers a bathroom complete with separate shower and victorian
bath with its Royal suites (which take up half a carriage each).
www.rovos.com/train-royal.html

That's one train I would like to experience, but probably in the more
affordable Pullman suites which only have showers, not baths.



Some of the Indian luxury trains such as the "Deccan Odyssey" have showers
attached to the cabin (Coupe)

http://www.deccan-odyssey-india.com/...-on-board.html

"Graham Harrison" writes:
Some of the Indian luxury trains such as the "Deccan Odyssey" have
showers attached to the cabin (Coupe)

http://www.deccan-odyssey-india.com/...-on-board.html

"The famous Ayurvedic Body Massage with Steam bath is available to
rejuvenate you. A Gymnasium is also there for your routine workouts."

-miles

--
`Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities.
But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that
they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)

On Dec 30 2010, 1:42*pm, wrote:
(NOT bathrooms PLEASE)

Oh I don't know. After most train journeys I feel like I need a
bath. Getting the TOC to pay for the hot water sounds like a good
idea.