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Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
I do not have a photocard. Oystercard.com won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Oystercard telephone sales won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. I know it's not usable yet but the web site says it can be bought now. Or am I supposed to wait until Jan 4th and then buy it in the tube station (hopefully someone will have educated Fulham Broadway by then). Will I still get 2003 prices if I can't buy it until Jan 4th? |
Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
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Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
I@n wrote:
I do not have a photocard. Oystercard.com won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Oystercard telephone sales won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. Come to Gloucester Road. We had Oyster roving sales people today! Even if they aren't there, if you say to the ticket office staff you want a photocard because you'll be getting an Oystercard, they'll give the photocard to you no problem. It took me about 15 seconds. Obviously the Fulham Bdy people are uneducated on the matter (and hence wrong) but sometimes it's just easier to go elsewhere... I know it's not usable yet but the web site says it can be bought now. Or am I supposed to wait until Jan 4th and then buy it in the tube station (hopefully someone will have educated Fulham Broadway by then). Will I still get 2003 prices if I can't buy it until Jan 4th? Yes, the fares only start on Jan 4th anyway and run through to the following New Year. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 |
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"I@n" -uk wrote in message . ..
I do not have a photocard. Oystercard.com won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Oystercard telephone sales won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. I know it's not usable yet but the web site says it can be bought now. Or am I supposed to wait until Jan 4th and then buy it in the tube station (hopefully someone will have educated Fulham Broadway by then). Will I still get 2003 prices if I can't buy it until Jan 4th? I just put the number 0 in the space for the photocard and it was accepted and I have the card |
Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
In message , "I@n"
-uk writes I do not have a photocard. Oystercard.com won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Oystercard telephone sales won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. I know it's not usable yet but the web site says it can be bought now. Or am I supposed to wait until Jan 4th and then buy it in the tube station (hopefully someone will have educated Fulham Broadway by then). Will I still get 2003 prices if I can't buy it until Jan 4th? You can buy one now. There's a £3.00 (refundable) deposit and it doesn't matter when you buy it, you'll still pay this year's fare for single journeys. As an Oyster card holding only a Pre Pay amount will be transferable, I cannot see the need for a photocard. Try another station (but preferably not Brixton ;-)) -- Kat Reality is the leading cause of stress among those in touch with it. |
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"Kat" wrote in message ... In message , "I@n" -uk writes I do not have a photocard. Oystercard.com won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Oystercard telephone sales won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. I know it's not usable yet but the web site says it can be bought now. Or am I supposed to wait until Jan 4th and then buy it in the tube station (hopefully someone will have educated Fulham Broadway by then). Will I still get 2003 prices if I can't buy it until Jan 4th? You can buy one now. There's a £3.00 (refundable) deposit and it doesn't matter when you buy it, you'll still pay this year's fare for single journeys. As an Oyster card holding only a Pre Pay amount will be transferable, I cannot see the need for a photocard. Try another station (but preferably not Brixton ;-)) Ring the helpdesk and ask them to look into why the station is saying this. I've had exactly the same problem at Waterloo. It was eventually resolved after a load of phone calls and a argument with the DSM. Prepay oyster can be got over the counter from *any* LUL ticket office. For prepay you *do not* need a photo card, *nor* do you need to register it. Only from the tele sales team, or the website. If you are still having problems reply to me via the group, and ill contact you back privately and can give you contact details for the helpdesk, a name and internal number. Enjoy. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 18/12/2003 |
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I@n -uk wrote: I do not have a photocard. Oystercard.com won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Oystercard telephone sales won't let you buy a prepay card without a photocard number. Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. I know it's not usable yet but the web site says it can be bought now. Or am I supposed to wait until Jan 4th and then buy it in the tube station (hopefully someone will have educated Fulham Broadway by then). Will I still get 2003 prices if I can't buy it until Jan 4th? I purchased my Oyster card at Baker St tube station by presenting a passport photo and asking for a card with a 7-day bus ticket. David |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:51:31 +0000, "I@n" -uk wrote:
Fulham Broadway tube station (admittedly the only one I've tried at but it's not exactly small) are adamant that there is no such thing as a prepay card, they can't sell me one, and they can't give me a photocard on it's own either. Last Monday I asked at Goldhawk Road for just a photocard so that I could get an Oyster Pre-Pay online. The ticket guy said he'd have to charge me £1 for the photocard unless I bought a ticket, but that he could sell me the pre-pay Oystercard. In the end, it took him about 15 minutes to issue it, involving 2 longish calls to a helpline, and which included him having to relay questions to me from the phone such as 'what kinds of tickets was I hoping to buy with it', and 'did I know it wouldn't work until January', 'did i realise it wouldn't work on buses' etc! He asked if I 'really' wanted to put £10 credit on the card, and at the end, when I didn't question the £3 deposit, he expressed huge relief that finally, 'someone' had actually bothered to read the Oystercard leaflet! He was throughly friendly and nice about the whole thing though, and i felt quite guilty taking up so much of his time! I got the feeling they are dreading the complexity of issueing and explaining the Oystercards to people! |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:24:30 +0000, Paul
wrote: I got the feeling they are dreading the complexity of issueing and explaining the Oystercards to people! I do wonder whether the complexity is resulting from the fact that a traditional, complicated, paper-style fare structure is being retained on what is essentially a new concept in ticketing, and the two don't go together well. Simplify and flatten the fare structure substantially, and it'll work a lot better. Neil -- Neil Williams is a valid email address, but is sent to /dev/null. Try my first name at the above domain instead if you want to e-mail me. |
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"Q" wrote in
: ... Prepay oyster can be got over the counter from *any* LUL ticket office. For prepay you *do not* need a photo card, *nor* do you need to register it. Only from the tele sales team, or the website. ... What happens if the user of a "pre pay only" Oyster card wants to load a season ticket onto it? Do they then have to register a phot card? David |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:18:23 +0000 (UTC), David Jackman
wrote: "Q" wrote in : ... Prepay oyster can be got over the counter from *any* LUL ticket office. For prepay you *do not* need a photo card, *nor* do you need to register it. Only from the tele sales team, or the website. What happens if the user of a "pre pay only" Oyster card wants to load a season ticket onto it? Do they then have to register a phot card? Has anyone actually managed to obtain a pre-pay oystercard without having a photocard yet?? As far as I can make out, they seem to be insisting on you providing a photocard number on the net, via the telephone, and at the ticket offices. |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:18:23 +0000 (UTC), David Jackman
wrote: "Q" wrote in : ... Prepay oyster can be got over the counter from *any* LUL ticket office. For prepay you *do not* need a photo card, *nor* do you need to register it. Only from the tele sales team, or the website. ... What happens if the user of a "pre pay only" Oyster card wants to load a season ticket onto it? Do they then have to register a phot card? David I just revisted oystercard.com and on the prepay page (in its stupid little window) read: * Do I need a photocard for Oyster Pre Pay? Yes. All Oyster customers are required to enter a photocard number when buying online. If you would like to purchase further tickets on Oyster, such as 7-Day or Monthly you can do so right away without the need to get another photocard. I am going to try again at buying it tomorrow when I'm up in zone 1. The site also now mentions a date of 15 December, after which Prepay can be topped up at all tube stations, so maybe all the staff will know about it now since that date has definitely passed. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:04:08 +0000, "I@n" -uk wrote:
Yes. All Oyster customers are required to enter a photocard number when buying online. If you would like to purchase further tickets on Oyster, such as 7-Day or Monthly you can do so right away without the need to get another photocard. This strikes me as rather odd when I'm sure I recall earlier promotional material for Pre-Pay stating that it was (unlike proper seasons) transferable. Neil -- Neil Williams is a valid email address, but is sent to /dev/null. Try my first name at the above domain instead if you want to e-mail me. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:27:08 +0000, Paul
wrote: Maybe they should have just issued 2 separate types of Oystercard, pre-pay and season ticket. Okay, here's an idea - how about making *all* Oystercard tickets transferrable? Seasons, pre-pay, the lot? Unlike a paper ticket, a lost Oyster can (presumably) be deactivated if stolen, so a photocard is not as important to avoid that. The only thing you'd lose is an ability to claim back penalty fares less an admin fee if you genuinely forgot your ticket (do TfL do that?) The only other thing to watch out for is people passing them through bus windows like they often do for transferrable operator-specific bus passes elsewhere in the country. Other countries (e.g. Germany) have transferrable seasons (though often at a slightly higher price) - why not? Neil -- Neil Williams is a valid email address, but is sent to /dev/null. Try my first name at the above domain instead if you want to e-mail me. |
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Kat wrote:
In message , Paul writes On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:09:08 GMT, (Neil Williams) wrote: Yes. All Oyster customers are required to enter a photocard number when buying online. If you would like to purchase further tickets on Oyster, such as 7-Day or Monthly you can do so right away without the need to get another photocard. This strikes me as rather odd when I'm sure I recall earlier promotional material for Pre-Pay stating that it was (unlike proper seasons) transferable. I'd imagine having all Oystercards linked to a photocard doesn't prevent it from being transferable when used for pre-pay, if you are only required to produce a photocard when using the card as a season ticket. However, I think one area where the 'transferable' option could cause huge confusion is the situation where an Oystercard contains both a season ticket, AND some pre-pay credit. If you then lend (transfer) your Oystercard to someone, how do they insure that their ticket is taken from the Pre-pay balance and not just authorised as part of the owners season ticket (which could result in a prosecution!)? If the Oyster card contains a season ticket as well as Pre Pay, then it is no longer transferable. But, eventually, you will be able to buy a magnetic ticket for another person using the Pre Pay element of your Oyster card. Maybe they should have just issued 2 separate types of Oystercard, pre-pay and season ticket. AFAICS, there is nothing to stop you from buying another Oyster card for Pre Pay only. Of course, then you'd have to pay the £3.00 deposit too and remember which was which. Yes - in fact I was thiking that having say a blue one for seasons and a green one for prepay (or whatever) would have been a good idea just for all these reasons. But I picked up a leaflet at Walthamstow Central last night which gave a scenario where one multi-card would be better. The leaflet contained two bits of info: (1) Ticket Extensions If you have an Oyster season, and are travelling to an underground or DLR station outside the zone covered by your ticket, the additional fare (Ticket Extension) will be automatically calculated and deducted from any Pre-Pay balance you may have. (2) New anti-fraud feature If you have an Oyster season and it is used outside the zones for which the ticket is valid, it will be debited with the cost of any extra travel made. Customers will be unable to enter any tube station until the negative balance has been cleared. (The suggestion is that if you keep a few quid on pre-pay, it will enable (1) automatically, but without Pre-Pay on the card too, you will get (2). If the season and pre-pay were on different cards, then the above system (which I think sounds good) couldn't work, I don't think. dave |
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In message , Dave Newt
writes Kat wrote: AFAICS, there is nothing to stop you from buying another Oyster card for Pre Pay only. Of course, then you'd have to pay the £3.00 deposit too and remember which was which. Yes - in fact I was thiking that having say a blue one for seasons and a green one for prepay (or whatever) would have been a good idea just for all these reasons. You could just ask for one of the ordinary black plastic wallets in which to keep one for easy identification. The wallets do not have to be opened (as I see many people do.) But I picked up a leaflet at Walthamstow Central last night which gave a scenario where one multi-card would be better. The leaflet contained two bits of info: (1) Ticket Extensions If you have an Oyster season, and are travelling to an underground or DLR station outside the zone covered by your ticket, the additional fare (Ticket Extension) will be automatically calculated and deducted from any Pre-Pay balance you may have. (2) New anti-fraud feature If you have an Oyster season and it is used outside the zones for which the ticket is valid, it will be debited with the cost of any extra travel made. Customers will be unable to enter any tube station until the negative balance has been cleared. (The suggestion is that if you keep a few quid on pre-pay, it will enable (1) automatically, but without Pre-Pay on the card too, you will get (2). If the season and pre-pay were on different cards, then the above system (which I think sounds good) couldn't work, I don't think. No, it wouldn't but you could keep some Pre Pay on your season ticket Oyster for extensions and the other Oyster for other needs. If you have an Oyster season ticket with no Pre Pay on it, 57 will show on the POD and you'll just be stopped at the gates and directed to the Assistance Window to pay the difference if you go out of zone. -- Kat "bears, said the taxi driver, is sixpence extra, sticky bears is ninepence" |
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Kat wrote:
In message , Dave Newt writes Kat wrote: AFAICS, there is nothing to stop you from buying another Oyster card for Pre Pay only. Of course, then you'd have to pay the £3.00 deposit too and remember which was which. Yes - in fact I was thiking that having say a blue one for seasons and a green one for prepay (or whatever) would have been a good idea just for all these reasons. You could just ask for one of the ordinary black plastic wallets in which to keep one for easy identification. The wallets do not have to be opened (as I see many people do.) But I picked up a leaflet at Walthamstow Central last night which gave a scenario where one multi-card would be better. The leaflet contained two bits of info: (1) Ticket Extensions If you have an Oyster season, and are travelling to an underground or DLR station outside the zone covered by your ticket, the additional fare (Ticket Extension) will be automatically calculated and deducted from any Pre-Pay balance you may have. (2) New anti-fraud feature If you have an Oyster season and it is used outside the zones for which the ticket is valid, it will be debited with the cost of any extra travel made. Customers will be unable to enter any tube station until the negative balance has been cleared. (The suggestion is that if you keep a few quid on pre-pay, it will enable (1) automatically, but without Pre-Pay on the card too, you will get (2). If the season and pre-pay were on different cards, then the above system (which I think sounds good) couldn't work, I don't think. No, it wouldn't but you could keep some Pre Pay on your season ticket Oyster for extensions and the other Oyster for other needs. But then all you have done is make *three* different types of credit rather than two. (1) Pre-Pay for excess fares, (2) Pre-pay for pay-as-you-go and (3) Seasons. This would seem to me to be yet another complication rather than simplification in the fare structure... I think whoever said earlier in the thread that it will all work more smoothly if the entire ticketing structure is reformed was spot on... |
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In message , Dave Newt
writes No, it wouldn't but you could keep some Pre Pay on your season ticket Oyster for extensions and the other Oyster for other needs. But then all you have done is make *three* different types of credit rather than two. (1) Pre-Pay for excess fares, (2) Pre-pay for pay-as-you-go and (3) Seasons. Yes, but on two cards with different uses. This would seem to me to be yet another complication rather than simplification in the fare structure... I think whoever said earlier in the thread that it will all work more smoothly if the entire ticketing structure is reformed was spot on... That may be... especially in 2004 when there are different prices for weekends and bank holidays and a host of other *make life harder for the SAMFs* goodies.. However, I was replying to Paul's suggestion that two types of Oyster card might be a good idea. If you did keep another Oyster solely with Pre Pay on it then you could give it to someone else if necessary. Just out of interest, I'd like to know if anyone reading this group has or is planning to get a purely Pre Pay oyster. From what I've gathered (and I realise it's early days) there hasn't been that much demand for them so far. Is lure of 2003 single fare prices greater than the disadvantage of paying a £3.00 deposit and locking an amount of cash away on an Oyster card? -- Kat "bears, said the taxi driver, is sixpence extra, sticky bears is ninepence" |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat
wrote: Just out of interest, I'd like to know if anyone reading this group has or is planning to get a purely Pre Pay oyster. From what I've gathered (and I realise it's early days) there hasn't been that much demand for them so far. Is lure of 2003 single fare prices greater than the disadvantage of paying a £3.00 deposit and locking an amount of cash away on an Oyster card? I bought a pure Pre Pay last Monday. For me, the biggest lure was the convenience of never again having to fiddle about buying a ticket from a machine (long queues, not having change, machines not working, late nights with unsavourys lurking near by, etc etc). The 2003 fares were also an incentive to get one, especially eventually being able to get the 'bus saver' discount, without the little books! I kind of viewed the £3 deposit as more of a one off charge. I think the fact that it is refundable is probably more important to tourists than Londoners. I have used the equivalent Octopus system in Hong Kong though, and fell in love with it there, so I was relatively easy to convince to convert! |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat
wrote: Just out of interest, I'd like to know if anyone reading this group has or is planning to get a purely Pre Pay oyster. From what I've gathered (and I realise it's early days) there hasn't been that much demand for them so far. Is lure of 2003 single fare prices greater than the disadvantage of paying a £3.00 deposit and locking an amount of cash away on an Oyster card? I have bought a Pre Pay. I work 2 days a week and make a variety of journeys on some of the other days, so a season isn't an option for me. I know I'll still have to ask myself every time I go out whether a day travelcard is the best option, but I have to do this anyway. If it is, then I know I'll still have to buy a paper ticket until Oyster can handle this, which is when I'll really start to feel the benefits. The cheaper fares weren't really the main incentive, but in my view the £3 deposit is a small price to pay for the big incentive of no longer having to queue for a single or return ticket and having to keep a stash of coins for the ticket machines. I just hope it's all going to work OK when January comes as the level of information issued specifically about pre-pay so far seems a bit inadequate. Very little information came with the ticket or in the new Oyster pre-pay leaflet that was being handed out last week. If I hadn't read this group I don't think I'd fully appreciate the importance of signing in and out at the beginning and end of each journey, even if the gates are open, to avoid being charged for all zones. I wonder how many people realise this as I haven't seen it stressed anywhere else. |
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"Jill" wrote in message ... I just hope it's all going to work OK when January comes as the level of information issued specifically about pre-pay so far seems a bit inadequate. Very little information came with the ticket or in the new Oyster pre-pay leaflet that was being handed out last week. If I hadn't read this group I don't think I'd fully appreciate the importance of signing in and out at the beginning and end of each journey, even if the gates are open, to avoid being charged for all zones. I wonder how many people realise this as I haven't seen it stressed anywhere else. I feel some "Oyster related stress" sickness coming on! |
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"Dave Newt" wrote in message ... This would seem to me to be yet another complication rather than simplification in the fare structure... Indeed I think whoever said earlier in the thread that it will all work more smoothly if the entire ticketing structure is reformed was spot on... As I understand it, it was supposed to. You don't expect a holistic approach in this job do you? |
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In message , Jill
writes [...] I just hope it's all going to work OK when January comes as the level of information issued specifically about pre-pay so far seems a bit inadequate. Very little information came with the ticket or in the new Oyster pre-pay leaflet that was being handed out last week. I'll find out if more training aimed at the user will be forthcoming before January 4th. If I hadn't read this group I don't think I'd fully appreciate the importance of signing in and out at the beginning and end of each journey, even if the gates are open, to avoid being charged for all zones. I wonder how many people realise this as I haven't seen it stressed anywhere else. Exactly. I can't stress enough how important it will be to use the yellow reader at the start and finish of each journey or the Pre Pay amount will disappear in large chunks with unresolved journeys. We'll be able to resolve *single* unresolved journeys on the TOMs locally and Revenue Inspectors will be able to do it with their HHCs but more than one will require a phone call to sort out. -- Kat "bears, said the taxi driver, is sixpence extra, sticky bears is ninepence" |
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In message , Robin Mayes
writes "Jill" wrote in message .. . I just hope it's all going to work OK when January comes as the level of information issued specifically about pre-pay so far seems a bit inadequate. Very little information came with the ticket or in the new Oyster pre-pay leaflet that was being handed out last week. If I hadn't read this group I don't think I'd fully appreciate the importance of signing in and out at the beginning and end of each journey, even if the gates are open, to avoid being charged for all zones. I wonder how many people realise this as I haven't seen it stressed anywhere else. I feel some "Oyster related stress" sickness coming on! Not if there's an R in the month.... -- Kat "bears, said the taxi driver, is sixpence extra, sticky bears is ninepence" |
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In message , Kat
writes If you have an Oyster season ticket with no Pre Pay on it, 57 will show on the POD and you'll just be stopped at the gates and directed to the Assistance Window to pay the difference if you go out of zone. I may have caused some confusion here. I'm assuming that a season ticket which has never had any Pre Pay on it will do this. An Oyster which has inadequate Pre Pay or none because it has been used up will open the gates but not allow you to use your season ticket again (even if it's perfectly valid) until the amount owing for the extension has been cleared. I can see this causing major problems. -- Kat "bears, said the taxi driver, is sixpence extra, sticky bears is ninepence" |
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Q wrote:
Prepay oyster can be got over the counter from *any* LUL ticket office. For prepay you *do not* need a photo card, *nor* do you need to register it. Only from the tele sales team, or the website. If you are still having problems reply to me via the group, and ill contact you back privately and can give you contact details for the helpdesk, a name and internal number. I'd appreciate some help with this please. I today made a big effort to buy the pre-pay at Liverpool Street (where there is a promo team today), but the ticket staff kept insisting I needed a photocard (and I had to register, which is fine by me, though I'd prefer not to bother). The tfl information centre (at Liverpool Street) wasn't even sure what the oystercard was!!! Nadeem (rainbowmedia on hotmail is the best email for me - my reply -to email is valid as well, but unfortunately still deluged with the Swen virus daily) |
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Kat wrote [...] An Oyster which has inadequate Pre Pay or none because it has been used up will open the gates but not allow you to use your season ticket again (even if it's perfectly valid) until the amount owing for the extension has been cleared. I can see this causing major problems. AND you are assuming your exit station is staffed so you can pay if you wish. The major problems would be if it is unstaffed and you get 'refused' the next morning. And what happens if the next use is again at an unstaffed station ? -- Mike D |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Paul wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat wrote: oyster. the equivalent Octopus system in Hong Kong Are all such systems named after molluscs? tom -- Come on thunder; come on thunder. |
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Tom Anderson writes On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Paul wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat wrote: oyster. the equivalent Octopus system in Hong Kong Are all such systems named after molluscs? The octopus is known for its intelligence which is probably why our system has been named after the oyster which isn't known for its intelligence but can give you a nasty of vomiting instead.... -- Kat "A world without string is chaos" |
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Kat wrote:
In message , Tom Anderson writes On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Paul wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat wrote: oyster. the equivalent Octopus system in Hong Kong Are all such systems named after molluscs? The octopus is known for its intelligence which is probably why our system has been named after the oyster which isn't known for its intelligence but can give you a nasty of vomiting instead.... Now there's a suitable image for Christmas! Merry Christmas, Kat! In defence of the oyster, I must point out that it's the incompetents who mishandle them who give you the nasties. As this is the season of peace and goodwill, I'll leave the reader to consider the relevance of this to TfL/LU and/or their passengers. :-) I have banned oysters for life in the UK after being poisoned twice by very expensive London restaurants, but have had no problems in France or Australia. Perhaps I shold relent when I get my Oyster Freedom Pass next year; after all, my previous UK experience was 30 years ago. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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"Kat" wrote in message
... In message , Tom Anderson writes On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Paul wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat wrote: oyster. the equivalent Octopus system in Hong Kong Are all such systems named after molluscs? The octopus is known for its intelligence which is probably why our system has been named after the oyster which isn't known for its intelligence but can give you a nasty of vomiting instead.... The oyster's biggest claim to fame is that as soon as you have one, you're screwed. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
In message , Richard J.
writes Kat wrote: The octopus is known for its intelligence which is probably why our system has been named after the oyster which isn't known for its intelligence but can give you a nasty of vomiting instead.... Now there's a suitable image for Christmas! Merry Christmas, Kat! And a Merry Christmas and peaceful New Year to you and everyone else who reads and/or contributes to this interesting and informative group. In defence of the oyster, I must point out that it's the incompetents who mishandle them who give you the nasties. As this is the season of peace and goodwill, I'll leave the reader to consider the relevance of this to TfL/LU and/or their passengers. :-) Oh dear; must try harder.... ;-) -- Kat I've always wanted to be somebody. Next time I'll be more specific. |
Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
In message , John Rowland
writes "Kat" wrote in message ... In message , Tom Anderson writes On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Paul wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat wrote: oyster. the equivalent Octopus system in Hong Kong Are all such systems named after molluscs? The octopus is known for its intelligence which is probably why our system has been named after the oyster which isn't known for its intelligence but can give you a nasty of vomiting instead.... The oyster's biggest claim to fame is that as soon as you have one, you're screwed. LOL A myth initiated by the good people of Whitstable I believe.... -- Kat "A world without string is chaos" |
Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
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Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat
wrote: Just out of interest, I'd like to know if anyone reading this group has or is planning to get a purely Pre Pay oyster. From what I've gathered (and I realise it's early days) there hasn't been that much demand for them so far. I've ordered one for my wife: she only uses the tube two or three days a week therefore making a season tickets uneconomical. Is lure of 2003 single fare prices greater than the disadvantage of paying a £3.00 deposit and locking an amount of cash away on an Oyster card? For her sort of travel and Oyster is ideal, and with the added lures of 2003 fares and discount weekend singles. The £3 isn't much of an issue, especially as it's refundable. Cheers, Jason. |
Another Oyster Prepay Thread - How Do You Buy It?
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:58:09 +0000, Kat wrote: Just out of interest, I'd like to know if anyone reading this group has or is planning to get a purely Pre Pay oyster. From what I've gathered (and I realise it's early days) there hasn't been that much demand for them so far. Maybe it has been suppressed by discouragement from poorly trained ticket staff... I've ordered one for my wife: she only uses the tube two or three days a week therefore making a season tickets uneconomical. Is lure of 2003 single fare prices greater than the disadvantage of paying a £3.00 deposit and locking an amount of cash away on an Oyster card? For her sort of travel and Oyster is ideal, and with the added lures of 2003 fares and discount weekend singles. The £3 isn't much of an issue, especially as it's refundable. Quite. It seems those who post here know rather more than some ticket staff I have encountered. The website was down last night so I phoned the salesline and held for ages, though got what I wanted eventually. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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