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Airtrack shelved
[original thread on uk.r - x-posted to utl] On Apr 11, 8:35*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote: [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13042740] Not entirely clear whether it's because BAA can't afford it, or whether level crossing delays are an insuperable obstacle. I've been intending to ask whether anyone's been closely following developments on the Airtrack front for a little while - and now this happens - most disappointing. I had wondered just how well this project might progress, what with Philip Hammond being a local MP and seemingly not being too keen on it - hardly an original thought I'm sure. |
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On 11 Apr, 20:50, Mizter T wrote:
[original thread on uk.r - x-posted to utl] On Apr 11, 8:35*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote: [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13042740] Not entirely clear whether it's because BAA can't afford it, or whether level crossing delays are an insuperable obstacle. I've been intending to ask whether anyone's been closely following developments on the Airtrack front for a little while - and now this happens - most disappointing. I had wondered just how well this project might progress, what with Philip Hammond being a local MP and seemingly not being too keen on it - hardly an original thought I'm sure. IU wonder whether any part of Reading remodelling will now be scrapped?.... Wasn't at least one platform meant to be for AirTrack? |
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"Chris" wrote in message
... IU wonder whether any part of Reading remodelling will now be scrapped?.... Wasn't at least one platform meant to be for AirTrack? Yes - but I expect it would be useful anyway, as it allows far more flexibility for the existing FGW and SWT trains, with or without Airtrack. That's no guarantee the scope might not change though, as from what I can see the work hasn't actually reached the point of no return. Paul S |
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"tim...." wrote Especially as the long term demand was for the services to Woking/Reading. The Waterloo service was just an add on. To scrap the whole thing because of problems with the waterloo service is nuts. The level crossing problems would affect the Reading and Woking services as well. IIRC among the difficult crossings are Sunningdale and Wokingham. But I suspect that overall Airtrack would have a net beneficial effect on road congestion by making it easier for passengers to the airport to use public transport. Perhaps the idea of Airtrack can be resurrected after Crossrail is up and running, and not as a stand alone service but as an extension of Crossrail. One of the least satisfactory details in the Airtrack plans is that it would dump passengers at T5, forcing those to the Central area to change, and those for T5 to change twice. See inter alia MM's tale of woe at having to change at T123 to get from T5 to HConn with his mountain of luggage. Peter |
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How about the PRT at T5, has that also been shelved? I wonder,
considering that it is almost two years delayed. |
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" wrote:
How about the PRT at T5, has that also been shelved? I wonder, considering that it is almost two years delayed. Airtrack, like the PRT, was probably no more than a ruse to get planning permission for some major development work at Heathrow. The PRT was going to revolutionise journeys to and from the Central Area - the T5 installation was just a trial. But BAA got planning permission for the redevelopment of the Central Area, so the PRT trial seems to have worked for BAA, even if it has never carried any of Terminal 5's Business Car Park users. Airtrack was probably intended to help BAA gain planning permission for the third runway and associated works. Now the coalition government has made it crystal clear that the third runway project is dead and buried, there's no point in Airtrack. Of course there will be myriad other excuses why Airtrack could not go ahead, but I believe that the coalition government's refusal of the third runway is the primary cause of the cancellation. The recent confirmation of the ruling that BAA must sell Stansted is another possible factor in the decision to curtail investment. |
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On Apr 12, 12:53*am, Bruce wrote:
" wrote: How about the PRT at T5, has that also been shelved? I wonder, considering that it is almost two years delayed. Airtrack, like the PRT, was probably no more than a ruse to get planning permission for some major development work at Heathrow. * The PRT was going to revolutionise journeys to and from the Central Area - the T5 installation was just a trial. *But BAA got planning permission for the redevelopment of the Central Area, so the PRT trial seems to have worked for BAA, even if it has never carried any of Terminal 5's Business Car Park users. Airtrack was probably intended to help BAA gain planning permission for the third runway and associated works. *Now the coalition government has made it crystal clear that the third runway project is dead and buried, there's no point in Airtrack. Of course there will be myriad other excuses why Airtrack could not go ahead, but I believe that the coalition government's refusal of the third runway is the primary cause of the cancellation. *The recent confirmation of the ruling that BAA must sell Stansted is another possible factor in the decision to curtail investment. I saw the PRT running last Thursday - at least 10 cars on the move (empty) |
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On Apr 12, 7:16*am, ianh wrote:
On Apr 12, 12:53*am, Bruce wrote: " wrote: How about the PRT at T5, has that also been shelved? I wonder, considering that it is almost two years delayed. Airtrack, like the PRT, was probably no more than a ruse to get planning permission for some major development work at Heathrow. * The PRT was going to revolutionise journeys to and from the Central Area - the T5 installation was just a trial. *But BAA got planning permission for the redevelopment of the Central Area, so the PRT trial seems to have worked for BAA, even if it has never carried any of Terminal 5's Business Car Park users. Airtrack was probably intended to help BAA gain planning permission for the third runway and associated works. *Now the coalition government has made it crystal clear that the third runway project is dead and buried, there's no point in Airtrack. Of course there will be myriad other excuses why Airtrack could not go ahead, but I believe that the coalition government's refusal of the third runway is the primary cause of the cancellation. *The recent confirmation of the ruling that BAA must sell Stansted is another possible factor in the decision to curtail investment. I saw the PRT running last Thursday - at least 10 cars on the move (empty) Certainly running trials in Januray: http://www.ultraprt.com/news/86/149/...vehicle-trips/ If it does open, it will be a personal incentive to use the business parking rather than longstay. |
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, at 23:16:06 on Mon, 11 Apr 2011, ianh remarked: I saw the PRT running last Thursday - at least 10 cars on the move (empty) Was it empty because it's not yet open for business, or because it was quiet time of day? -- Roland Perry |
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