"GT" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message
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"GT" wrote:
Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

I have read that page, including reference to the PCNs, but are they
actually a recognised, enforcable highway code entity, or just London local
authority doing what it likes?


I believe specific legislation was passed - the Traffic Management Act
2004. This Act made specific reference only to London, however there
are also Red Routes in Birmingham.

The Act also refers to powers under the Highways Act 1980 and the Road
Traffic Regulation Act 1984.

This is far from being a complete answer to your question and I
present it only as a possible starting point for your research.

On 2011\05\03 15:13, Mr. Benn wrote:
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I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a
black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the
road, on a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic
behind to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely
bugger all?

There are exemptions in the Highway Code permitting black cabs and
minicabs stopping wherever they bloody like

No, there aren't - any taxi picking up on zigzags is likely to be busted
- but taxis and minicabs are explicitly allowed to stop on red routes.
The whole point of red routes was that normal clearways would prevent
taxis from being hailed on precisely the routes that they use to get
back into Central London, so the red route was dreamt up specifically to
compromise between the desire to have functional roads and the desire to
have a functional taxi service.

and for using their horns at
10 o'clock at night in residential areas.

I've never heard a taxi do that, but minicabs do that habitually despite
having no exemption.

"Adrian" wrote in message
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"GT" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

I have read that page, including reference to the PCNs, but are they
actually a recognised, enforcable highway code entity

Did you bother to look at the HC before asking?

No I didn't.

If you had, you'd find them in the "Signs & Markings" section.

Indeed I would!

"Adrian" wrote in message
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"GT" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!

FFS... No, they don't.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...ssets/@dg/@en/
documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf

Lets hope there aren't any traffic jams or traffic lights along those routes
then - only taxis and blue badge holders would avoid prosecution!

"GT" wrote in message
b.com...
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"GT" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!

FFS... No, they don't.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...ssets/@dg/@en/
documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf

Lets hope there aren't any traffic jams or traffic lights along those
routes then - only taxis and blue badge holders would avoid prosecution!

Oh and before I get nasty replies - that was sarcasm!

On Tue, 03 May 2011 16:07:26 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
There are exemptions in the Highway Code permitting black cabs and
minicabs stopping wherever they bloody like

No, there aren't - any taxi picking up on zigzags is likely to be busted
- but taxis and minicabs are explicitly allowed to stop on red routes.

Someones sarcasm detector is broken today.

B2003

Minicabs - otherwise known as Private Hire Vehicles - are allowed to stop on red routes only if they are displaying what TfL calls a "roundel". If they do not have a "roundel" on both front and rear windscreens, they have no special exemption. A "roundel" is a circular blue and white badge.

On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:19:45 +0100, Bruce wrote:
They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

They're not just in London. There's some roads in central Birmingham with
double red lines. I've seen them in other places as well.

On Tue, 03 May 2011 16:01:42 +0100, Bruce wrote:

I believe specific legislation was passed - the Traffic Management Act
2004. This Act made specific reference only to London, however there
are also Red Routes in Birmingham.

All the red routes enforceable in Birmingham if the act only applies to
London?

On 03/05/2011 14:56, d wrote:

I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road, on a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic behind to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger all?

B2003

Do you know what a taxi is for?

I take it you don't complain when a bus stops at a bus-stop?

The whole world is a taxi-driver's taxi-stop (or at least, that bit of it
which is within his licensed area). Stopping to pick passengers up is what
taxis do.