South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

I was travelling to Wimbledon on the District line around 8:15am
today, and passed a couple of South West Trains on the underground
tracks heading north. There was no obvious notice of a diversion at
Wimbledon Station. Does anyone know what was going on?

Peter

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

On May 4, 8:54*am, peter wrote:
I was travelling to Wimbledon on the District line around 8:15am
today, and passed a couple of South West Trains on the underground
tracks heading north. *There was no obvious notice of a diversion at
Wimbledon Station. *Does anyone know what was going on?

Peter

I've been on SW Trains journey over the LT line onto the Richmond line
at Clapham Junction within the last few years. This was becuause of
engineering works on the mainline. IIRC a connection between the two
Network Rail lines into Clapham Jct is kept in case they need to get a
crane around the scene of a rail crash in order to aid recvovery.

Neill

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

On May 4, 9:08*am, neill wrote:
On May 4, 8:54*am, peter wrote:

I was travelling to Wimbledon on the District line around 8:15am
today, and passed a couple of South West Trains on the underground
tracks heading north. *There was no obvious notice of a diversion at
Wimbledon Station. *Does anyone know what was going on?

Peter

I've been on SW Trains journey over the LT line onto the Richmond line
at Clapham Junction within the last few years. This was becuause of
engineering works on the mainline. IIRC a connection between the two
Network Rail lines into Clapham Jct is kept in case they need to get a
crane around the scene of a rail crash in order to aid recvovery.

Neill

A colleague has just arrived at work, and said there had been a
fatality at Clapham Junction.

Peter

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

"neill" wrote in message
...

I've been on SW Trains journey over the LT line onto the Richmond line
at Clapham Junction within the last few years. This was becuause of
engineering works on the mainline. IIRC a connection between the two
Network Rail lines into Clapham Jct is kept in case they need to get a
crane around the scene of a rail crash in order to aid recvovery.

Access for emergencies may well be a secondary use, but the main use is to
allow down trains to access Wimbledon Park depot without causing pathing
difficulties or conflicting moves crossing other lines. There are a number
of diagrammed moves over the course of a normal day that go via East Putney
(in both directions), 16 in total that I can find, of which at least 3 are
passenger services - these are early and late in the day to maintain route
knowledge so I expect many passengers are unaware of the possibility.

Paul S

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

On 04/05/2011 08:54, peter wrote:
I was travelling to Wimbledon on the District line around 8:15am
today, and passed a couple of South West Trains on the underground
tracks heading north. There was no obvious notice of a diversion at
Wimbledon Station. Does anyone know what was going on?

There were lots of reports of a "fatality in the Clapham Junction area"
at about that time.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

Paul Scott wrote
"neill" wrote

I've been on SW Trains journey over the LT line onto the Richmond
line
at Clapham Junction within the last few years. This was becuause of
engineering works on the mainline. IIRC a connection between the
two
Network Rail lines into Clapham Jct is kept in case they need to
get a
crane around the scene of a rail crash in order to aid recvovery.

Access for emergencies may well be a secondary use, but the main use
is to
allow down trains to access Wimbledon Park depot without causing
pathing
difficulties or conflicting moves crossing other lines. There are a
number
of diagrammed moves over the course of a normal day that go via East
Putney
(in both directions), 16 in total that I can find, of which at least
3 are
passenger services - these are early and late in the day to maintain
route
knowledge so I expect many passengers are unaware of the possibility.

Your "in both directions" is most interesting as is peter's "going
north". During my commuting years my train took that route a number of
times (to the considerable surprise of many passengers) but only in the
Down direction..

I thought I remembered discussions here that Up wasn't or couldn't be
used.


--
Mike D

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

In article 01cc0a8f$ac2af800$LocalHost@default, (Michael
R N Dolbear) wrote:

Your "in both directions" is most interesting as is peter's "going
north". During my commuting years my train took that route a number of
times (to the considerable surprise of many passengers) but only in the
Down direction..

I thought I remembered discussions here that Up wasn't or couldn't be
used.

It can be used but involves conflicting moves at Point Pleasant Junction
due to removal of the bridge from East Putney across the Windsor lines
some years ago.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

On 04/05/2011 23:57, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:
Paul wrote
wrote

I've been on SW Trains journey over the LT line onto the Richmond line
at Clapham Junction within the last few years. This was becuause of
engineering works on the mainline. IIRC a connection between the two
Network Rail lines into Clapham Jct is kept in case they need to get a
crane around the scene of a rail crash in order to aid recvovery.

Access for emergencies may well be a secondary use, but the main use is
to allow down trains to access Wimbledon Park depot without causing
pathing difficulties or conflicting moves crossing other lines. There
are a number of diagrammed moves over the course of a normal day that go
via East Putney (in both directions), 16 in total that I can find, of
which at least 3 are passenger services - these are early and late in the
day to maintain route knowledge so I expect many passengers are unaware
of the possibility.

Your "in both directions" is most interesting as is peter's "going north".
During my commuting years my train took that route a number of times (to
the considerable surprise of many passengers) but only in the Down
direction..

I thought I remembered discussions here that Up wasn't or couldn't be
used.

PSUL at http://www.avoe05.dsl.pipex.com/2011.htm shows booked services both
ways:

Point Pleasant Junction - East Putney (152,155,158) WH
0042 SX Waterloo - Strawberry Hill
0105 SX Waterloo - Southampton Central
0454 SuX Basingstoke - Waterloo

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
news:01cc0a8f$ac2af800$LocalHost@default...

Your "in both directions" is most interesting as is peter's "going
north". During my commuting years my train took that route a number of
times (to the considerable surprise of many passengers) but only in the
Down direction..

I thought I remembered discussions here that Up wasn't or couldn't be
used.

There are certainly a majority of down trains, but the following up
direction trains run:

0454 Basingstoke to Waterloo (in service - as John Salmon noted earlier)
0505, 0519, 0534, 1638, ECS from Wimbledon Depot - Waterloo

So there's just that last one that 'normal people' are likely to see...

Paul S

South West Trains diverted at Wimbledon?
 

On 04/05/2011 23:57, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:
Paul wrote
wrote

I've been on SW Trains journey over the LT line onto the Richmond
line
at Clapham Junction within the last few years. This was becuause of
engineering works on the mainline. IIRC a connection between the
two
Network Rail lines into Clapham Jct is kept in case they need to
get a
crane around the scene of a rail crash in order to aid recvovery.

Access for emergencies may well be a secondary use, but the main use
is to
allow down trains to access Wimbledon Park depot without causing
pathing
difficulties or conflicting moves crossing other lines. There are a
number
of diagrammed moves over the course of a normal day that go via East
Putney
(in both directions), 16 in total that I can find, of which at least
3 are
passenger services - these are early and late in the day to maintain
route
knowledge so I expect many passengers are unaware of the possibility.

Your "in both directions" is most interesting as is peter's "going
north". During my commuting years my train took that route a number of
times (to the considerable surprise of many passengers) but only in the
Down direction..

I thought I remembered discussions here that Up wasn't or couldn't be
used.



I've been on a train that went that way, when the line was closed at
Earlsfield.