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Thameslink North South connections
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Thameslink North South connections
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Thameslink North South connections
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Thameslink North South connections
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 18:11:27 on Sun, 31 Jul 2011, remarked: And if that's not what it means, will (as Colin suggests) the "stoppers at everywhere north of Welwyn Garden City" run into KX not Thameslink? I was rather assuming that 12-car trains to Foxton were unlikely. Why Foxton in particular? If the Cambridgshire rural stations are being extended to 8car, and the Thameslink trains are 12car, it's simply a necessary side effect. I sued Foxton as an example rather than spell out Meldreth, Shepreth and Foxton. In each case 12 into 8 doesn't go, not without SDO anyway. If the point is to subsume the existing Kings Cross Outer semi-fasts they should go half to Cambridge and half to Peterborough anyway. The Peterborough 2tph semi-fasts are going to Three Bridges. Same problem as for Cambridge then. They are a mix of semi-fasts and slows. I'm becoming more convinced that "semi-fast" describes all four services, and you only look upon them as stoppers because you've got even better "fast" services from Cambridge. They are all Outer services all of which skip Inner stops. So stopping at all the Outer stations is slow in my book. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Thameslink North South connections
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 18:11:27 on Sun, 31 Jul 2011, remarked: Because they try to keep fleets as homogeneous as possible, and having a few odd sets like that just doesn't fit their thinking. Like the 317s and 321s now, you mean? Three sorts of 317, and 325's. It's that sort of mixture they trying to avoid in future. 325s!? Passengers may be herded like cattle but they're not mail! I'm always confusing the with 365's. You know what I meant! I thought you meant 321s actually! Aren't the 365's going? FCC only have one sort of 317, 12 of them. It's NXEA that has the tutti-frutti varieties. And NXEA have two sorts of 321. Indeed, though one is the same as FCC's & LM's. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Thameslink North South connections
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Thameslink North South connections
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Thameslink North South connections
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 05:29:52 on Mon, 1 Aug 2011, remarked: And if that's not what it means, will (as Colin suggests) the "stoppers at everywhere north of Welwyn Garden City" run into KX not Thameslink? I was rather assuming that 12-car trains to Foxton were unlikely. Why Foxton in particular? If the Cambridgshire rural stations are being extended to 8car, and the Thameslink trains are 12car, it's simply a necessary side effect. I used Foxton as an example rather than spell out Meldreth, Shepreth and Foxton. In each case 12 into 8 doesn't go, not without SDO anyway. SDO it is, then. Except that I thought the stock will not have SDO? If the point is to subsume the existing Kings Cross Outer semi-fasts they should go half to Cambridge and half to Peterborough anyway. The Peterborough 2tph semi-fasts are going to Three Bridges. Same problem as for Cambridge then. They are a mix of semi-fasts and slows. They aren't slow trains, because they skip many stops as they get near London. I pointed out that there are two services, Inner and Outer. These are slow Outers. I'm becoming more convinced that "semi-fast" describes all four services, and you only look upon them as stoppers because you've got even better "fast" services from Cambridge. They are all Outer services all of which skip Inner stops. So stopping at all the Outer stations is slow in my book. Only because you are spoilt by the Cambridge Cruisers. Cruisers went when FCC took over. They are Express services now and they are quite a bit faster than alternatives. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Thameslink North South connections
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 05:29:52 on Mon, 1 Aug 2011, remarked: Three sorts of 317, and 325's. It's that sort of mixture they trying to avoid in future. 325s!? Passengers may be herded like cattle but they're not mail! I'm always confusing the with 365's. You know what I meant! I thought you meant 321s actually! Aren't the 365's going? My point is that I'd expect all the legacy stock (on Cambridge-London) to be going. Some may remain on Moorgate-Letchworth. What do you know about class 313 replacement stock? Apart from Merseyside I'm not aware of any discussions on PEP replacements yet. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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