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Kat January 3rd 04 02:13 AM

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There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Cast_Iron January 3rd 04 07:39 AM

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Kat wrote:
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to
Zone A. Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


Ta Awfully, so thoughtful of you.



Richard J. January 3rd 04 11:07 AM

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Kat wrote:
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


Is that the large poster (no, not you, Kat!) or the folding pocket map?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Peter Smyth January 3rd 04 12:36 PM

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"Kat" wrote in message
...
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


The other change to the zones is that Crystal Palace has been moved from Zone
4 to the Zone 3/4 boundary.

Peter Smyth



Kat January 3rd 04 12:54 PM

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In message , Peter Smyth
writes
The other change to the zones is that Crystal Palace has been moved from Zone
4 to the Zone 3/4 boundary.

So it has; I'd only seen the new version small tube maps but the map
with NR is at the back of the new Fares and Tickets.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Kat January 3rd 04 01:00 PM

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In message , Richard J.
writes
Kat wrote:
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


Is that the large poster (no, not you, Kat!) or the folding pocket map?


I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the station
maps would have been changed last night.
BTW, the new version pocket maps have the same *map made of paint*
graphic on the front, which I particularly dislike. I wish they'd got
Zandra Rhodes to do another one...
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Barry Salter January 3rd 04 02:58 PM

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:00:04 +0000, Kat
wrote:

BTW, the new version pocket maps have the same *map made of paint*
graphic on the front, which I particularly dislike. I wish they'd got
Zandra Rhodes to do another one...


Isn't that the one on the old poster advertising the Tate Gallery? The
one that's the most popular poster in the LT Museum Shop ;)

Still, takes all sorts I guess..

Cya,

Barry

--
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DISCLAIMER: The above comments do not necessarily represent the
views of my employers.

Nick Cooper January 3rd 04 03:01 PM

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:00:04 +0000, Kat
wrote:

In message , Richard J.
writes
Kat wrote:
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


Is that the large poster (no, not you, Kat!) or the folding pocket map?


I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the station
maps would have been changed last night.
BTW, the new version pocket maps have the same *map made of paint*
graphic on the front, which I particularly dislike. I wish they'd got
Zandra Rhodes to do another one...


You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych, and
has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to Brixton....
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

Robin May January 3rd 04 03:05 PM

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(Nick Cooper) wrote the
following in:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:00:04 +0000, Kat
wrote:


I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the
station maps would have been changed last night.
BTW, the new version pocket maps have the same *map made of paint*
graphic on the front, which I particularly dislike. I wish they'd
got Zandra Rhodes to do another one...


You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych,
and has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to
Brixton.... --


I always thought the Victoria stopped where it does (roughly where
Pimlico is) because it was created to advertise the Tate Gallery (now
Tate Britain) and the stop for that is Pimlico.

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

"Handlebar catch and nipple."

Kat January 3rd 04 03:09 PM

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In message , Nick Cooper
writes
You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych, and
has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to Brixton....


But you need a passport for Pimlico....
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Richard J. January 3rd 04 03:10 PM

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Peter Smyth wrote:
"Kat" wrote in message
...
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


The other change to the zones is that Crystal Palace has been moved
from Zone 4 to the Zone 3/4 boundary.


Neither of these changes are yet shown on the maps on the TfL/Tube web
sites.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Kat January 3rd 04 03:12 PM

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In message , Robin May
writes
(Nick Cooper) wrote the
following in:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:00:04 +0000, Kat
wrote:


I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the
station maps would have been changed last night.
BTW, the new version pocket maps have the same *map made of paint*
graphic on the front, which I particularly dislike. I wish they'd
got Zandra Rhodes to do another one...


You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych,
and has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to
Brixton.... --


I always thought the Victoria stopped where it does (roughly where
Pimlico is) because it was created to advertise the Tate Gallery (now
Tate Britain) and the stop for that is Pimlico.

That's right.. The painting is called The Tate Gallery by Tube but I
still hate it....
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Kat January 3rd 04 03:15 PM

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In message , Richard J.
writes
Peter Smyth wrote:
"Kat" wrote in message
...
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


The other change to the zones is that Crystal Palace has been moved
from Zone 4 to the Zone 3/4 boundary.


Neither of these changes are yet shown on the maps on the TfL/Tube web
sites.


Doesn't surprise me; on New Year's Day it was saying that the Waterloo
and City was closed in one paragraph and running a Monday to Friday
timetable in the next....
(As were the corresponding leaflets BTW)
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Robin May January 3rd 04 03:15 PM

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Kat wrote the following in:


In message ,
Robin May writes


I always thought the Victoria stopped where it does (roughly where
Pimlico is) because it was created to advertise the Tate Gallery
(now Tate Britain) and the stop for that is Pimlico.

That's right.. The painting is called The Tate Gallery by Tube but
I still hate it....


Why do you hate it?

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

"Handlebar catch and nipple."

Kat January 3rd 04 03:20 PM

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In message , Robin May
writes
Kat wrote the following in:


In message ,
Robin May writes


I always thought the Victoria stopped where it does (roughly where
Pimlico is) because it was created to advertise the Tate Gallery
(now Tate Britain) and the stop for that is Pimlico.

That's right.. The painting is called The Tate Gallery by Tube but
I still hate it....


Why do you hate it?

Just aesthetics, I suppose.
But then there's not much underground publicity that I think is well
designed anyway.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Robin May January 3rd 04 03:24 PM

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Kat wrote the following in:


Just aesthetics, I suppose.
But then there's not much underground publicity that I think is
well designed anyway.


I quite like it. I've actually had a poster of it since I was quite
young.

I don't like the way a lot of recent Underground publicity is moving
away from the use of New Johnston (e.g. the We (underground logo)
London stuff).

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

"Handlebar catch and nipple."

Nick Cooper January 3rd 04 03:26 PM

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:09:59 +0000, Kat
wrote:

In message , Nick Cooper
writes
You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych, and
has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to Brixton....


But you need a passport for Pimlico....


Obviously an alternative universe, as there wasn't a sub-surface line
running through Pimlico at the time the film was made/set!
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

Kat January 3rd 04 03:44 PM

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In message , Robin May
writes
Kat wrote the following in:


Just aesthetics, I suppose.
But then there's not much underground publicity that I think is
well designed anyway.


I quite like it. I've actually had a poster of it since I was quite
young.


How much of the original poster is used on the map?
It's the balance you see... it seems wrongly placed to me.
Of course, this sort of thing is totally subjective.

I don't like the way a lot of recent Underground publicity is moving
away from the use of New Johnston (e.g. the We (underground logo)
London stuff).

I've just looked at an EWSA; the cover is New Johnston but the contents
seems to be something different..
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Paul Oter January 3rd 04 03:53 PM

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"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:09:59 +0000, Kat
wrote:

In message , Nick Cooper
writes
You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych, and
has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to Brixton....


But you need a passport for Pimlico....


Obviously an alternative universe, as there wasn't a sub-surface line
running through Pimlico at the time the film was made/set!


But there must have been *some* sort of Underground line, since the film
shows a train being stopped and boarded by Stanley Holloway for passport
checks before being allowed into Pimlico. I can't remember whether it was a
tube or subsurface train :-)

PaulO



Kat January 3rd 04 04:55 PM

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In message , Barry Salter
writes
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:00:04 +0000, Kat
wrote:

BTW, the new version pocket maps have the same *map made of paint*
graphic on the front, which I particularly dislike. I wish they'd got
Zandra Rhodes to do another one...


Isn't that the one on the old poster advertising the Tate Gallery? The
one that's the most popular poster in the LT Museum Shop ;)

The best thing I've seen recently was the Week 52 - 1 TC and the worst
the leaflet-cover/poster about 24 hour service on New Year's Eve.
Judging on the number of people who asked me what time the trains were
going to stop that night, I'd say that it didn't get the message across
very well.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Richard J. January 3rd 04 04:55 PM

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Kat wrote:
In message , Robin
May writes
Kat wrote the following in:


Just aesthetics, I suppose.
But then there's not much underground publicity that I think is
well designed anyway.


I quite like it. I've actually had a poster of it since I was quite
young.


How much of the original poster is used on the map?
It's the balance you see... it seems wrongly placed to me.
Of course, this sort of thing is totally subjective.

I don't like the way a lot of recent Underground publicity is moving
away from the use of New Johnston (e.g. the We (underground logo)
London stuff).

I've just looked at an EWSA; the cover is New Johnston but the
contents seems to be something different..


EWSA (Engineering Works Safety Arrangements): Is it issued by LU or
Metronet/Tube Lines? I could understand a different typeface being used if
it's a Metronet document.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Colin Rosenstiel January 3rd 04 05:15 PM

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In article ,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:09:59 +0000, Kat
wrote:

In message , Nick Cooper
writes
You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits Aldwych, and
has the Jubille extention and the Victoria goign to Brixton....

But you need a passport for Pimlico....


Obviously an alternative universe, as there wasn't a sub-surface line
running through Pimlico at the time the film was made/set!


But there must have been *some* sort of Underground line, since the film
shows a train being stopped and boarded by Stanley Holloway for passport
checks before being allowed into Pimlico. I can't remember whether it
was a tube or subsurface train :-)


It was a District Line train, presumably near Victoria.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Cast_Iron January 3rd 04 06:33 PM

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Nick Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:09:59 +0000, Kat
wrote:

In message , Nick Cooper
writes
You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits
Aldwych, and has the Jubille extention and the Victoria
goign to Brixton....


But you need a passport for Pimlico....


Obviously an alternative universe, as there wasn't a
sub-surface line running through Pimlico at the time the
film was made/set!


But have the boundaries of this outpost of the Duke of Burgundy's estate
been defined?



Robin Mayes January 3rd 04 07:39 PM

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"Kat" wrote in message
...
In message , Richard J.
writes
Kat wrote:
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


Is that the large poster (no, not you, Kat!) or the folding pocket map?


I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the station
maps would have been changed last night.


ISTR that the printers hadn't delivered the larger maps yet.



Kat January 3rd 04 08:07 PM

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In message , Robin Mayes
writes

"Kat" wrote in message
...
In message , Richard J.
writes
Kat wrote:
There's a new version out with Watford moved from Zone B to Zone A.
Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....

Is that the large poster (no, not you, Kat!) or the folding pocket map?


I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the station
maps would have been changed last night.


ISTR that the printers hadn't delivered the larger maps yet.

Sounds about right...
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


John Rowland January 4th 04 01:04 AM

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"Richard J." wrote in message
...
Kat wrote:

There's a new version out with Watford moved
from Zone B to Zone A. Clever Watford ;-)
Thought you'd all be fascinated by that bit of info....


Is that the large poster (no, not you, Kat!)


Does her "A Zone" looks big in that?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Nick Cooper January 4th 04 11:56 AM

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 19:33:43 +0000 (UTC), "Cast_Iron"
wrote:

Nick Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:09:59 +0000, Kat
wrote:

In message , Nick Cooper
writes
You'd think at least they get an updated one that omits
Aldwych, and has the Jubille extention and the Victoria
goign to Brixton....

But you need a passport for Pimlico....


Obviously an alternative universe, as there wasn't a
sub-surface line running through Pimlico at the time the
film was made/set!


But have the boundaries of this outpost of the Duke of Burgundy's estate
been defined?


It's fairly clear in the film - I checked last time it was one, and
it's nowhere near any contemporary underground line.
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

Kat January 5th 04 03:24 PM

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In message , Robin Mayes
writes

"Kat" wrote in message
...
I've only seen the folding pocket map so far but I imagine the station
maps would have been changed last night.


ISTR that the printers hadn't delivered the larger maps yet.

Appears that we got ours OK and all have been changed except the sticky
backed ones for the non-stopping boards...
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


Robin Mayes January 5th 04 04:48 PM

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"Kat" wrote in message
...

Appears that we got ours OK and all have been changed except the sticky
backed ones for the non-stopping boards...


Yes, we got our too! Why did the last bit start the Blue Peter theme tune in
my head?



Kat January 5th 04 04:55 PM

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In message , Robin Mayes
writes

"Kat" wrote in message
...

Appears that we got ours OK and all have been changed except the sticky
backed ones for the non-stopping boards...


Yes, we got our too! Why did the last bit start the Blue Peter theme tune in
my head?

LOL!
Must have been the new-improved-smaller-HHC- thingies...
That's one that should have been made earlier.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.


CharlesPottins January 16th 04 09:24 AM

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I seem to remember the train in the film was above street level, which makes me
think that bit might have been filmed south of the river, perhaps in Battersea
or Vauxhall. (though locals in Ebury Bridge Road told me the film, at least the
bombed bits, was filmed in Chelsea).
If it was a tube train though, I wonder could it have been on what's now the
Hammersmith, on the elevated stretch, by Latimer Road say?


Colin Rosenstiel January 16th 04 08:53 PM

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In article ,
(CharlesPottins) wrote:

I seem to remember the train in the film was above street level, which
makes me think that bit might have been filmed south of the river,
perhaps in Battersea or Vauxhall. (though locals in Ebury Bridge Road
told me the film, at least the bombed bits, was filmed in Chelsea).
If it was a tube train though, I wonder could it have been on what's
now the Hammersmith, on the elevated stretch, by Latimer Road say?


My recollection of "Passport to Pimlico" is that the train was in a cut
and cover tunnel or cutting or both. It is only 40 years ago!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] January 31st 04 08:39 PM

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In article ,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(CharlesPottins) wrote:

I seem to remember the train in the film was above street level,
which makes me think that bit might have been filmed south of the
river,
perhaps in Battersea or Vauxhall. (though locals in Ebury Bridge Road
told me the film, at least the bombed bits, was filmed in Chelsea).
If it was a tube train though, I wonder could it have been on what's
now the Hammersmith, on the elevated stretch, by Latimer Road say?


My recollection of "Passport to Pimlico" is that the train was in a cut
and cover tunnel or cutting or both. It is only 40 years ago!

--
Colin Rosenstiel


Can't find the original posting, but the location details below were taken
from:

http://www.britmovie.co.uk/studios/e...graphy/52.html

The casting of Passport to Pimlico, while using many familiar Ealing
faces, is particularly happy. The genial grocer, Pemberton (Stanley
Holloway), is admirably contrasted with the timid, precise bank manager,
Wix (Raymond Huntley), while outsiders include a delightfully absurd
history professor (Margaret Rutherford) and a Burgundian duke (Paul
Dupuis) who dashes a girl's romantic dreamt of Dijon with chat about the
trams in the main square and cement factories. Basil Radford and Naunton
Wayne personify Whitehall red tape. The irony of the situation is best
summed up by the grocer's wife who, when it is suggested they are now a
bunch of foreigners, declares: We always were English, and we always will
be English, and it’s just because we're English we’re sticking out for our
right to be Burgundians! Much of the film was shot on an outdoor set built
on a cleared bomb site off the Lambeth Road, a mile to the east of real
Pimlico, although the original title was kept largely for its curious
foreign sounding quality and pleasing alliteration.

Roger

Colin Rosenstiel January 31st 04 10:52 PM

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In article , ()
wrote:

In article
,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(CharlesPottins) wrote:

I seem to remember the train in the film was above street level,
which makes me think that bit might have been filmed south of the
river,
perhaps in Battersea or Vauxhall. (though locals in Ebury Bridge
Road
told me the film, at least the bombed bits, was filmed in Chelsea).
If it was a tube train though, I wonder could it have been on
what's now the Hammersmith, on the elevated stretch, by Latimer
Road say?


My recollection of "Passport to Pimlico" is that the train was in a
cut and cover tunnel or cutting or both. It is only 40 years ago!

--
Colin Rosenstiel


Can't find the original posting, but the location details below were
taken from:

http://www.britmovie.co.uk/studios/e...graphy/52.html

The casting of Passport to Pimlico, while using many familiar Ealing
faces, is particularly happy. The genial grocer, Pemberton (Stanley
Holloway), is admirably contrasted with the timid, precise bank
manager, Wix (Raymond Huntley), while outsiders include a delightfully
absurd history professor (Margaret Rutherford) and a Burgundian duke
(Paul Dupuis) who dashes a girl's romantic dreamt of Dijon with chat
about the trams in the main square and cement factories. Basil Radford
and Naunton Wayne personify Whitehall red tape. The irony of the
situation is best summed up by the grocer's wife who, when it is
suggested they are now a bunch of foreigners, declares: We always were
English, and we always will be English, and it’s just because we're
English we’re sticking out for our right to be Burgundians! Much of the
film was shot on an outdoor set built on a cleared bomb site off the
Lambeth Road, a mile to the east of real Pimlico, although the original
title was kept largely for its curious foreign sounding quality and
pleasing alliteration.


No reference to the UndergrounD shots, though. :-(

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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