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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:26:08 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
You misunderstand. The other victims are the people who are put in a
state of fear by the original crime. If a drug dealer in Possilpark

Oh please, get over yourself. Calling yourself a victim is a bogus way
of grabbing the emtionally charged moral high ground and legitimising your
whinging but it doesn't work anymore. People have seen through that particular
liberal trick.

Don't think of it as "hate crimes". Think of it as terrorism.

Are you for real? You're coming across as a poor satire.

B2003

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On 26/08/11 12:17, d wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:58:48 +0100
The Real wrote:
You got any evidence that white heterosexuals as a group feel alienated
by tolerance of others?

When that tolerance swings to positive discrimination then yes. And also
when that tolerance goes against the public good - ie I have zero tolerance
of the muslim women who cover their faces (france had the right idea there)

Who gives a flying **** what you personally think about veiled women? Do
you have the same antipathy to veiled nuns, or is it the potential
presence of a non-white face which rings your bells?

Oh dear, you're losing the argument so you're using the tried and tested
right-on debating technique of going off on one.

Obviously you're a bit hard of thinking but i'll explain - you asked about
white heterosexuals being alienated by tolerance - i'm white and straight.
And I feel alienated in some parts of london. So what I think does matter
a flying fsck in this case.

Read what I wrote, please. I asked about "white heterosexuals as a
group", not about one individuals personal prejudices. I suppose it's
got the merit of consistency, though - if you believe that all blacks,
all gays and all women are the same then it's a natural error to think
that everyone like you shares your believes. Well, either consistency or
egotism.

And why bring skin colour into it other than a hackneyed straw man argument
which you have learnt verbatim from the Big Bumper Book of Politically Correct
Debating Techniques?

Ah, "political correctness". The big, horrid bogey man. Scary.

You're the one who chose Muslim women and rastas as your objects of
detestation. I'm only working with what you give me here.

What , a sip of wine is the same as getting completely stoned?

What do white heterosexuals do which annoys you? Anything?

Plenty. But nothing to do with them being normal.

So people who aren't white and heterosexual annoy you simply by virtue
of not being "normal", do they? What a lovely, tolerant person you are.

Ian

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On 26/08/11 11:28, 1506 wrote:
It is nonsense. Until now, in civilized countries, we have tried
people for actions not thoughts and speech.

"The standard common law test of criminal liability is usually expressed
in the Latin phrase, actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which means
"the act does not make a person guilty unless the mind be also guilty"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea

Ian

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
1506 wrote:
Don't these pernickety, politically correct, lefties get to be
irritating? I am about ready to kill file the doc. Debating him is
like nailing jelly to a tree.

The more desperate hysterical hyperbole they come out with to regain lost
ground the more people will see how their emporer never had any clothes so
its actually better than them having a sensible debate. Fools only ever end
up being laughed at.

B2003

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On Aug 26, 4:31*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:28, 1506 wrote:

Moreover terrorism is an act of war which demands a swift, firm,
military response. *Describing it as a crime and involving the courts
is a big mistake. *IMHO we have spent the past ten years being far too
soft in this regard.

Yeah, it worked sooooo well in Norn Iron, didn't it?

Northern Ireland is not the Middle East.

Don't these pernickety, politically correct, lefties get to be
irritating? *I am about ready to kill file the doc. *Debating him is
like nailing jelly to a tree.

Diddums.

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

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On 26/08/11 12:36, d wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:26:08 +0100
The Real wrote:
You misunderstand. The other victims are the people who are put in a
state of fear by the original crime. If a drug dealer in Possilpark

Oh please, get over yourself. Calling yourself a victim is a bogus way
of grabbing the emtionally charged moral high ground and legitimising your
whinging but it doesn't work anymore. People have seen through that particular
liberal trick.

Where did I call myself a victim?

You must surely have worked out that the point of terrorism - the
definition of terrorism - is to intimidate people beyond the immediate
circle of victims of a particular crime. When the IRA were blowing up
pubs, they did it not so much to kill the people in those pubs (they had
no idea who they were going to kill, and it didn't really matter) but to
threaten pub goers through the country.

Similarly the point of the London tube and bus bombings wasn't to kill
people on tubes and buses, but to paralyse the city by deterring people
from using tubes and buses.

So the initial crime stands, of course, and should be punished, but the
additional crime of terrorising the population also deserves punishment.
Don't you agree?

Don't think of it as "hate crimes". Think of it as terrorism.

Are you for real? You're coming across as a poor satire.

What else would you call a deliberate attempt to intimidate a subsection
of the population?

You may care to read a little about cognitive dissonance. It's what
happens when people try to hold two opposing ideas. Not generally a
problem until someone points out the conflict, then all sorts of things
break out: accusations of satire, liberalism, political correctness and
so on. All basically translate as "You've pointed out that I have
inconsistent views but I can't have inconsistent views so you must be
wrong and horrible and I hate you. Waaaaaaaah."

See the "Daily Mail" comments pages for many, many further examples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance


Ian

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:36:17 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
Obviously you're a bit hard of thinking but i'll explain - you asked about
white heterosexuals being alienated by tolerance - i'm white and straight.
And I feel alienated in some parts of london. So what I think does matter
a flying fsck in this case.

Read what I wrote, please. I asked about "white heterosexuals as a
group", not about one individuals personal prejudices. I suppose it's

Then why ask. Poll the entire country.

And why bring skin colour into it other than a hackneyed straw man argument
which you have learnt verbatim from the Big Bumper Book of Politically
Correct
Debating Techniques?

Ah, "political correctness". The big, horrid bogey man. Scary.

Actually I think of it more as a pathetic crutch for feeble whingers who only
discover a pair of balls when in a large group and ironically have no tolerance
for anyone having a different opinion to theirs. Of course the irony is almost
always lost on them since most are not nearly as bright as they like to think
they are.

Plenty. But nothing to do with them being normal.

So people who aren't white and heterosexual annoy you simply by virtue
of not being "normal", do they? What a lovely, tolerant person you are.

Diddums.

B2003

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:47:03 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
You must surely have worked out that the point of terrorism - the
definition of terrorism - is to intimidate people beyond the immediate
circle of victims of a particular crime. When the IRA were blowing up

I doubt many thugs consider the big picture when beating up someone they
don't like. Calling it terrorism is a cynical way of gaining political
traction, nothing more.

So the initial crime stands, of course, and should be punished, but the
additional crime of terrorising the population also deserves punishment.
Don't you agree?

Ah , a classic technique. Slightly change the argument to get me to agree
to it then claim later how I agreed to the original point. Nice try :)

Are you for real? You're coming across as a poor satire.

What else would you call a deliberate attempt to intimidate a subsection
of the population?

Except it wasn't.

You may care to read a little about cognitive dissonance. It's what
happens when people try to hold two opposing ideas. Not generally a

Except I don't.

Got anything else in your box of tricks or is that it? In the meantime I
have work to do.

B2003

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On 26/08/11 12:48, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:20 am, The Real wrote:

Why would I want to do that?

You're the one who like blasphemy. Oh silly me, Islam is politically
correct, Judaism and Christianity are not. Consistent as always, you
lefties.

Who said I liked blasphemy? I only said it was a good thing we didn't
prosecute people for it any more. Since you don't like the idea of
thought crimes, I thought you'd agree.

As far as Christianity, Judaism and Islam go ... well, I'm with Marcus
Brigstocke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42p2SO5wQag

Ian

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On 26/08/11 12:51, d wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:47:03 +0100
The Real wrote:
You must surely have worked out that the point of terrorism - the
definition of terrorism - is to intimidate people beyond the immediate
circle of victims of a particular crime. When the IRA were blowing up

I doubt many thugs consider the big picture when beating up someone they
don't like. Calling it terrorism is a cynical way of gaining political
traction, nothing more.

If they beat someone up to show that "We don't like faggots round here"
or "We don't like veiled Muslims round here" or "We don't like white
people round here" then the big pictures is certainly there.

So the initial crime stands, of course, and should be punished, but the
additional crime of terrorising the population also deserves punishment.
Don't you agree?

Ah , a classic technique. Slightly change the argument to get me to agree
to it then claim later how I agreed to the original point.

So are you saying you /don't/ think that terrorist crimes are worse than
the same acts for purely personal reasons?

Ian

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On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:
Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

Ian

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On 26/08/11 12:47, d wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:36:17 +0100
The Real wrote:

Read what I wrote, please. I asked about "white heterosexuals as a
group", not about one individuals personal prejudices. I suppose it's

Then why ask. Poll the entire country.

You've already claimed that "it alienates white heterosexuals." Are you
now saying that you have no evidence for that claim?

Plenty. But nothing to do with them being normal.

So people who aren't white and heterosexual annoy you simply by virtue
of not being "normal", do they? What a lovely, tolerant person you are.

Diddums.

Evasion noted, as the late lamented "PC" Hansen would have said.

Ian

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On Aug 26, 5:03*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

It would go some way to explaining the axe you are grinding.

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On Aug 26, 1:05*pm, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:47, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:36:17 +0100
The Real *wrote:
Read what I wrote, please. I asked about "white heterosexuals as a
group", not about one individuals personal prejudices. I suppose it's

Then why ask. Poll the entire country.

You've already claimed that "it alienates white heterosexuals." Are you
now saying that you have no evidence for that claim?

Plenty. But nothing to do with them being normal.

So people who aren't white and heterosexual annoy you simply by virtue
of not being "normal", do they? What a lovely, tolerant person you are..

Diddums.

Evasion noted, as the late lamented "PC" Hansen would have said.


I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

Just convince them that hordes of muslim/black/student/working class
rioters are coming for them and, with a bit of luck, they'll retreat
into their bunkers and the world will be a much nicer and safer place.

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On Aug 26, 5:18*am, MIG wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:05*pm, The Real Doctor wrote:





On 26/08/11 12:47, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:36:17 +0100
The Real *wrote:
Read what I wrote, please. I asked about "white heterosexuals as a
group", not about one individuals personal prejudices. I suppose it's

Then why ask. Poll the entire country.

You've already claimed that "it alienates white heterosexuals." Are you
now saying that you have no evidence for that claim?

Plenty. But nothing to do with them being normal.

So people who aren't white and heterosexual annoy you simply by virtue
of not being "normal", do they? What a lovely, tolerant person you are.

Diddums.

Evasion noted, as the late lamented "PC" Hansen would have said.

I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. *They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

Just convince them that hordes of muslim/black/student/working class
rioters are coming for them and, with a bit of luck, they'll retreat
into their bunkers and the world will be a much nicer and safer place.-

Have fun at the riots did you?

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On 26/08/11 13:15, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:03 am, The Real wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

It would go some way to explaining the axe you are grinding.

Ah, you think that only gay people would care about gay people being
tortured to death. Well, that certainly fits with the rest of your
contributions to this thread.

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja
kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war
ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein
Gewerkschafter.
Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Jude.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

Ian

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On 26/08/11 13:18, MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

Yup. It's sad to see two people so scared of "the other".

Ian

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On Aug 26, 5:26*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 26/08/11 13:15, 1506 wrote:

On Aug 26, 5:03 am, The Real *wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

It would go some way to explaining the axe you are grinding.

Ah, you think that only gay people would care about gay people being
tortured to death. Well, that certainly fits with the rest of your
contributions to this thread.

Who is torturing bright and cheerful people to death?

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On Aug 26, 5:26*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 26/08/11 13:15, 1506 wrote:

On Aug 26, 5:03 am, The Real *wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

It would go some way to explaining the axe you are grinding.

Ah, you think that only gay people would care about gay people being
tortured to death. Well, that certainly fits with the rest of your
contributions to this thread.

But, then you seem to care so little for the sensibilities of decent
people.

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja

Thank you so much. I claim Godwin's Law. You lose. Have a great
day.




kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war
ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein
Gewerkschafter.
Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Jude.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

Ian

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:57:37 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
As far as Christianity, Judaism and Islam go ... well, I'm with Marcus
Brigstocke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42p2SO5wQag

Well, looks like with agree on something. I'd never have expected Brigstocke
to go for it like that. I'm impressed.

B2003

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:59:57 +0100
The Real Doctor wrote:
Ah , a classic technique. Slightly change the argument to get me to agree
to it then claim later how I agreed to the original point.

So are you saying you /don't/ think that terrorist crimes are worse than
the same acts for purely personal reasons?

Not really. I don't care why people do something, its what they do that
matters. Would Dunblane or that killing in norway have been somehow worse if
they had been done by religious nutters with an agenda? I don't think so.

B2003

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On 26/08/11 13:48, d wrote:
Well, looks like with agree on something. I'd never have expected Brigstocke
to go for it like that. I'm impressed.

Doesn't exactly pull his punches, does he?

Ian

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

What , like the riots?

Just convince them that hordes of muslim/black/student/working class
rioters are coming for them and, with a bit of luck, they'll retreat
into their bunkers and the world will be a much nicer and safer place.

I suspect a lot of shopkeepers who've had their homes burned down are still
wondering that very thing.

But then what do I know. I mean liberal social policies in the last few
decades have had such a wonderful effect on society. Oh , wait...

B2003

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On 26/08/11 13:47, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:26 am, The Real wrote:
On 26/08/11 13:15, 1506 wrote:

Ah, you think that only gay people would care about gay people being
tortured to death. Well, that certainly fits with the rest of your
contributions to this thread.

But, then you seem to care so little for the sensibilities of decent
people.

And that's you defining "decent people" as "white heterosexuals", is it?

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja

Thank you so much. I claim Godwin's Law. You lose. Have a great
day.

If you'd prefer an indigenous British equivalent

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

Ian

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On 26/08/2011 12:28, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:14 am, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:56:50 +0100
The Real wrote:





On 26/08/11 11:01, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:


Moreover terrorism is an act of war which demands a swift, firm,
military response. Describing it as a crime and involving the courts
is a big mistake. IMHO we have spent the past ten years being far too
soft in this regard.



So instead of trying and imprisoning IRA terrorists we should have
bombed Dublin and Boston?

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On 26/08/11 13:43, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:26 am, The Real wrote:
On 26/08/11 13:15, 1506 wrote:

On Aug 26, 5:03 am, The Real wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

It would go some way to explaining the axe you are grinding.

Ah, you think that only gay people would care about gay people being
tortured to death. Well, that certainly fits with the rest of your
contributions to this thread.

Who is torturing bright and cheerful people to death?

Oh Christ (there's yer blasphemy, right there) don't give us all that
"gay doesn't mean homosexual" rubbish. Of course it means homosexual,
nowadays, and if you want it back you're beter be able to persuade the
'phobes to give back queer, faggot, pervert and the rest.

Odd, isn't it, how only new gay-positive meanings get the outrage?

Ian

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On Aug 26, 6:28*am, MB wrote:
On 26/08/2011 12:28, 1506 wrote:





On Aug 26, 4:14 am, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:56:50 +0100
The Real *wrote:

On 26/08/11 11:01, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
* *wrote:

Moreover terrorism is an act of war which demands a swift, firm,
military response. *Describing it as a crime and involving the courts
is a big mistake. *IMHO we have spent the past ten years being far too
soft in this regard.

So instead of trying and imprisoning IRA terrorists we should have
bombed Dublin and Boston?

You may have read up thread where I said Ireland is not the Middle
East. It would have been better for the UK had she withdrawn from
Ireland in 1921. Better yet, she could have avoided interfering in
her neighbors affairs the the past 750 years.

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On Aug 26, 1:55*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. *They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

What , like the riots?

I can only assume that that's a subject that you've been itching to
rant about. I'm not interested.

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On Aug 26, 6:35*am, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 6:28*am, MB wrote:





On 26/08/2011 12:28, 1506 wrote:

On Aug 26, 4:14 am, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:56:50 +0100
The Real *wrote:

On 26/08/11 11:01, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
* *wrote:

Moreover terrorism is an act of war which demands a swift, firm,
military response. *Describing it as a crime and involving the courts
is a big mistake. *IMHO we have spent the past ten years being far too
soft in this regard.

So instead of trying and imprisoning IRA terrorists we should have
bombed Dublin and Boston?

You may have read up thread where I said Ireland is not the Middle
East. *It would have been better for the UK had she withdrawn from
Ireland in 1921. *Better yet, she could have avoided interfering in
her neighbors affairs the the past 750 years.- H

Correction: Better yet, England, and her succosor, the UK, could have
avoided interfering in
her neighbors affairs the the past 750 years.

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On Aug 26, 6:38*am, MIG wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:55*pm, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. *They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

What , like the riots?

I can only assume that that's a subject that you've been itching to
rant about. *I'm not interested.

We just know how much fun you had during the last round.

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:28:13 +0100
MB wrote:
So instead of trying and imprisoning IRA terrorists we should have
bombed Dublin and Boston?

As a slight aside, isn't it strange how since 9/11 the de facto "irish" (most
of them probably couldn't find Belfast on a map if it was lit up with flashing
neon lights) americans support for the IRA rather dwindled.

Funny how a dose of the reality of terrorism suddenly stops it being a trendy
cause to support. You could argue that if 9/11 had happened a couple of decades
ago a lot of yank funded deaths in northern ireland could have been prevented.

B2003

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:55=A0pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. =A0They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

What , like the riots?

I can only assume that that's a subject that you've been itching to
rant about. I'm not interested.

Still waiting for the police to come knocking?

B2003

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On Aug 26, 2:48*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:55=A0pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. =A0They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

What , like the riots?

I can only assume that that's a subject that you've been itching to
rant about. *I'm not interested.

Still waiting for the police to come knocking?

If I were you I'd worry more about the men in white coats.

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On 26/08/11 15:13, MIG wrote:
On Aug 26, 2:48 pm, wrote:

Still waiting for the police to come knocking?

If I were you I'd worry more about the men in white coats.

Looks like a case of debating techniques as well as prejudices acquired
before the age of eighteen. Well before the age of eighteen.

Ian

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On Aug 26, 2:43*pm, 1506 wrote:
On Aug 26, 6:38*am, MIG wrote:

On Aug 26, 1:55*pm, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
I don't know why you bother arguing with those two. *They are never
going to understand anything that would require any decency or
humanity.

What , like the riots?

I can only assume that that's a subject that you've been itching to
rant about. *I'm not interested.

We just know how much fun you had during the last round.

It took me a while to work out your disordered thoughts.

I realise that you think that standing peacefully in Parliament Square
with a placard is the same type of thing as looting and arson in the
suburbs*. From your planet, I guess the whole of life on Earth is
kind of distant and looks pretty much the same to you.

*The police can tell the difference though. They brutally attack
people for doing the former, and stand back doing nothing about the
latter.

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:43:50 -0700 (PDT), 1506 wrote
in misc.transport.urban-transit:

On Aug 26, 5:26*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 26/08/11 13:15, 1506 wrote:

On Aug 26, 5:03 am, The Real *wrote:
On 26/08/11 12:44, 1506 wrote:

Before I do killfile you, Are you, or have you ever been a homosexual?

Why would that matter?

It would go some way to explaining the axe you are grinding.

Ah, you think that only gay people would care about gay people being
tortured to death. Well, that certainly fits with the rest of your
contributions to this thread.

Who is torturing bright and cheerful people to death?

Europop singers?

A less pleasant aspect of 'railway photography'?
 

On 26/08/11 15:51, Graeme Wall wrote:

Is that a deity joke?

Allah be here all week, folks.

Ian

A less pleasant aspect of 'railway photography'?
 

Is that a deity joke?

Allah be here all week, folks.

God forbid!


--
Cheers
Roger Traviss


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A less pleasant aspect of 'railway photography'?
 

On 25/08/2011 21:29, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
In message
,
1506 wrote:
If I am mugged it is a crime. If a homosexual is mugged it is a
hate crime.

False.

If a homosexual is mugged *because* she is homosexual, it is a hate
crime. If she is mugged because some low-life wants cash for his drug
habit, it is not a hate crime, just a crime.

What happens if she believes it was because she is homosexual, but the
mugger disagrees? What standard of proof is needed?

IANAL, but I'm slightly uncomfortable with some classes of victims being
told their incident is "just" a crime. But I am somewhat biased as a
result of having been a young white male English-speaking locally-born
atheist heterosexual victim of an assault that I was quite lucky to survive.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

A less pleasant aspect of 'railway photography'?
 

On 26/08/11 18:13, Roger Traviss wrote:
Is that a deity joke?

Allah be here all week, folks.

God forbid!

That's the holy spirit!

Ian