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Paul Scott[_3_] September 29th 11 09:15 AM

Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
 
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...

If it's just down to utilising the D stock elsewhere, why has no-one
suggested using a couple of sets of redundant A stock to retain the
shuttle service? AIUI the only restrictions on A stock applied between
Edgware Road and High Street Ken, so it's (presumably) in gauge beyond
HSK.


I think because that doesn't remove the conflicting crossing moves that
reportedly cause the delays all over the District Line that they also
mention.

SO what came first - removing the conflicts - or increasing the Wimbledon
service?

Paul


David Cantrell September 29th 11 11:09 AM

Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
 
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
Consultation complete:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx

"We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses
we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead."

Which is what everyone expected anyway...


If they're working on the assumption that the Overground service will be
able to service the demand - I wish them luck. Especially on southbound
trains in the early evening, right about when lots of people leave those
exhbitions, those trains are so full that no-one at Olympia can get on
them.

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At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear
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Paul Scott[_3_] September 29th 11 11:45 AM

Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
 
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
k...

If they're working on the assumption that the Overground service will be
able to service the demand - I wish them luck. Especially on southbound
trains in the early evening, right about when lots of people leave those
exhbitions, those trains are so full that no-one at Olympia can get on
them.


To which they'd almost certainly reply:

"Based on actual counts taken this year, this is not the case."

"Before putting this proposal forward London Underground worked with London
Rail to find out if there was sufficient spare capacity on
Overground/Southern trains for users of the weekday District line service
from Kensington (Olympia). This was done using existing data and forecasting
changes after the May 2011 service frequency increase. It was found that
current users could be accommodated on Overground/Southern services on most
days."

Page 18 of their report

Paul S


David Cantrell September 30th 11 10:36 AM

Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
 
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:45:52PM +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
k...
If they're working on the assumption that the Overground service will be
able to service the demand - I wish them luck. Especially on southbound
trains in the early evening, right about when lots of people leave those
exhbitions, those trains are so full that no-one at Olympia can get on
them.

To which they'd almost certainly reply:
"Based on actual counts taken this year, this is not the case."


Then they obviously didn't count on southbound early evening trains at
Olympia, where people are left behind on the platform just about every
day.

"Before putting this proposal forward London Underground worked with London
Rail to find out if there was sufficient spare capacity on
Overground/Southern trains for users of the weekday District line service
from Kensington (Olympia). This was done using existing data and forecasting
changes after the May 2011 service frequency increase. It was found that
current users could be accommodated on Overground/Southern services on most
days."


This is probably true throughout most of the day. It is *not* true in
the evening peak.

Thankfully, it's not far to walk to West Kensington. I hope TfL put
posters up with maps on.

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