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Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
Consultation complete:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... Paul S |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:20:29 +0100
"Paul Scott" wrote: Consultation complete: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). B2003 |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:20:29 +0100 "Paul Scott" wrote: Consultation complete: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). Someone else grinds your axe for you? http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures....bvrname=Boltar |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
On 2011\09\28 16:24, Mizter T wrote:
Someone else grinds your axe for you? http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures....bvrname=Boltar Bloody hell, they do a figurine of Elizabeth Bathory. I hope the police are informed when anyone orders one. http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures....me=ElizBathory |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
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wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:20:29 +0100 "Paul Scott" wrote: Consultation complete: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). They want to use the units elsewhere. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
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In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:20:29 +0100 "Paul Scott" wrote: Consultation complete: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). They want to use the units elsewhere. In days gone by, wasn't this service operated by half-length trains (which would be more than enough except when there's a large show at Olympia)? |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
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In article , d () wrote: I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). They want to use the units elsewhere. If it's just down to utilising the D stock elsewhere, why has no-one suggested using a couple of sets of redundant A stock to retain the shuttle service? AIUI the only restrictions on A stock applied between Edgware Road and High Street Ken, so it's (presumably) in gauge beyond HSK. |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
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(Recliner) wrote: wrote in message In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:20:29 +0100 "Paul Scott" wrote: Consultation complete: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). They want to use the units elsewhere. In days gone by, wasn't this service operated by half-length trains (which would be more than enough except when there's a large show at Olympia)? In days gone by they used the most ancient District Line stock still running, until about 1959 when they realised what a bad impression it gave to people coming to international exhibitions at Olympia. Since then they have used standard District Line stock. Atone time that was 6-car trains as used on the Wimbleware service but not enough C69/77 stock was ordered to allow that to continue. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:24:07 +0100
"Mizter T" wrote: I don't quite get how the olympia service which only ran every 15 or 30 mins can have caused such congestion at earls court that they feel the need to get rid of it. Or is that just an excuse? (I'm not axe grinding , it makes no difference to me, I never use it). Someone else grinds your axe for you? http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures....bvrname=Boltar Hmm , interesting. Though he's a bit fatter than me. Nice axe, could be useful on here. B2003 |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
... If it's just down to utilising the D stock elsewhere, why has no-one suggested using a couple of sets of redundant A stock to retain the shuttle service? AIUI the only restrictions on A stock applied between Edgware Road and High Street Ken, so it's (presumably) in gauge beyond HSK. I think because that doesn't remove the conflicting crossing moves that reportedly cause the delays all over the District Line that they also mention. SO what came first - removing the conflicts - or increasing the Wimbledon service? Paul |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
Consultation complete: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...mes/20357.aspx "We heard from more than 15,000 people. After considering all the responses we have now confirmed that the proposed changes will go ahead." Which is what everyone expected anyway... If they're working on the assumption that the Overground service will be able to service the demand - I wish them luck. Especially on southbound trains in the early evening, right about when lots of people leave those exhbitions, those trains are so full that no-one at Olympia can get on them. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house. -- Robert A Heinlein |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
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k... If they're working on the assumption that the Overground service will be able to service the demand - I wish them luck. Especially on southbound trains in the early evening, right about when lots of people leave those exhbitions, those trains are so full that no-one at Olympia can get on them. To which they'd almost certainly reply: "Based on actual counts taken this year, this is not the case." "Before putting this proposal forward London Underground worked with London Rail to find out if there was sufficient spare capacity on Overground/Southern trains for users of the weekday District line service from Kensington (Olympia). This was done using existing data and forecasting changes after the May 2011 service frequency increase. It was found that current users could be accommodated on Overground/Southern services on most days." Page 18 of their report Paul S |
Kensington Olympia LU service cuts
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:45:52PM +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message k... If they're working on the assumption that the Overground service will be able to service the demand - I wish them luck. Especially on southbound trains in the early evening, right about when lots of people leave those exhbitions, those trains are so full that no-one at Olympia can get on them. To which they'd almost certainly reply: "Based on actual counts taken this year, this is not the case." Then they obviously didn't count on southbound early evening trains at Olympia, where people are left behind on the platform just about every day. "Before putting this proposal forward London Underground worked with London Rail to find out if there was sufficient spare capacity on Overground/Southern trains for users of the weekday District line service from Kensington (Olympia). This was done using existing data and forecasting changes after the May 2011 service frequency increase. It was found that current users could be accommodated on Overground/Southern services on most days." This is probably true throughout most of the day. It is *not* true in the evening peak. Thankfully, it's not far to walk to West Kensington. I hope TfL put posters up with maps on. -- David Cantrell | even more awesome than a panda-fur coat If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you're reading it in English, thank Chaucer. |
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