"NM" wrote in message

On Oct 3, 11:02 am, "GT" wrote:


This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Sweetcorn? I hope none of them are fitted with heart
pacemakers. :-)

I think the made-up religious rules are conveniently relaxed for
live-saving medical technology (Jerusalem hospital work seven-days a
week, after all) -- maybe someone should have deemed that pedestrian
crossing buttons come into this category? Of course, some Christian
nutters would rather die than accept a life-saving blood transfusion,
and they inflict this on their children, too.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:59:29 +0100
"Recliner" wrote:
For example, I was once in a hotel in Jerusalem and on a Friday night,
headed for the lift to go down to the lobby. I noticed a crowd of people
waiting by another lift, but once I hit the button, they were happy to
join me in 'my' lift. Apparently, one lift runs an all-floors stopping
service on the Shabbat, but the others work normally. If a non-Jew like
me pressed the button for one of those lifts, they had no trouble taking
advantage of it. Apparently it's OK for non-Jews to cause work to be
done that benefits Jews, but not for those same Jews to cause it.

So in other words they've come up with a get out clause to get around the
smallprint in some rule no one is forcing them to follow in the first
place. The ****wittedness of humanity knows no bounds.

It's worth pointing out that even in Israel, only a minority of Jewish
citizens take their religion to these extreme lengths. But the
extremists are very intolerant. They block the streets in their areas to

Extremists by definition are intolerant whatever group or cause they belong to.
I think most of them have borderline personality disorders TBH.

B2003

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:06:24 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

Though I heard about this on LBC this morning too so I suspect it isn't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...strian-crossin
g-devout-Jews-cross-road.html

http://percyweller.wordpress.com/201...every-90-secs/

I would suggest that if these religious nutters really are so hamstrung by
their interpretation of their religion they just stay inside instead of
everyone else being inconvenienced - including probably the large number of
ordinary jews that live in that area.

B2003

There's no such thing as an "ordinary jew". They're all irrational,
hysterical ragheads. And Transport for London is sucking their
rectums.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:09:04 +0100
"Recliner" wrote:
crossing buttons come into this category? Of course, some Christian
nutters would rather die than accept a life-saving blood transfusion,
and they inflict this on their children, too.

Yup. Jehovahs witnesses are evil scum. End of.

B2003

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100, "GT" lied:

wrote in message
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Though I heard about this on LBC this morning too so I suspect it isn't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...strian-crossin
g-devout-Jews-cross-road.html

http://percyweller.wordpress.com/201...every-90-secs/

I would suggest that if these religious nutters really are so hamstrung by
their interpretation of their religion they just stay inside instead of
everyone else being inconvenienced - including probably the large number
of
ordinary jews that live in that area.

B2003

This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid breaking
their law: The religious law prohibits them from using electricity or
operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do they think the green man
is powered by?!!

Your ignorance is showing again, liar. You don't understand the jew
sabbath laws. They are not allowed to *initiate* the use of
electricity.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:23:06 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:02:31 +0100
"GT" wrote:
This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid breaking
their law: The religious law prohibits them from using electricity or
operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do they think the green man
is powered by?!!

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!

It's horse****. They can't stop electricity being used around them
but the jew sabbath laws prevent them from initiating it by, for
example, flicking a light switch. Entering a dark room with movement
sensors which activate lights is kosher.

On Oct 3, 12:09*pm, "Recliner" wrote:
"NM" wrote in message



On Oct 3, 11:02 am, "GT" wrote:

This is silly - removing the button doesn't help them to avoid
breaking their law: The religious law prohibits them from using
electricity or operating machinery on the Sabbath. What exactly do
they think the green man is powered by?!!

Sweetcorn? * * * *I hope none of them are fitted with heart
pacemakers. *:-)

I think the made-up religious rules are conveniently relaxed for
live-saving medical technology (Jerusalem hospital work seven-days a
week, after all) -- maybe someone should have deemed that pedestrian
crossing buttons come into this category? *Of course, some Christian
nutters would rather die than accept a life-saving blood transfusion,
and they inflict this on their children, too.

I know a Jewish scholar who goes on at length about the ridiculous
interpretations put on Jewish Law regarding the Sabbath. The problem
seems to be that getting two individual rabbis, sects or synagogues to
agree on one point of law without generations of debate, is a bit like
herding cats. As he said to me one, if Jews followed the instructions
exactly, none of them would be able to go to synagogue on the Sabbath,
as they wouldn't be able to operate the door handle to get out of the
house.

Neill

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:15:00 -0400
The Revd wrote:
There's no such thing as an "ordinary jew". They're all irrational,

Ah, nothing like a nice bit of irony to cheer up a dull monday.

B2003

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:09:04 +0100
"Recliner" wrote:
crossing buttons come into this category? Of course, some Christian
nutters would rather die than accept a life-saving blood transfusion,
and they inflict this on their children, too.

Yup. Jehovahs witnesses are evil scum. End of.

I'd like to see JWs charged and convicted of murder or manslaughter if the
child dies, and negligence or child abuse if it survives, in this case. Why
should doctors have to jump through hoops (using non-blood substitutes) if
parents refuse treatment? Refusing treatment for yourself is fair enough,
but
foisting that on someone that you are responsible for is very different.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 04:23:21 -0700 (PDT)
neill wrote:
I know a Jewish scholar who goes on at length about the ridiculous
interpretations put on Jewish Law regarding the Sabbath. The problem
seems to be that getting two individual rabbis, sects or synagogues to
agree on one point of law without generations of debate, is a bit like
herding cats. As he said to me one, if Jews followed the instructions
exactly, none of them would be able to go to synagogue on the Sabbath,
as they wouldn't be able to operate the door handle to get out of the
house.

Its all how many fairies on the head of a pin really isn't it.

B2003