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Do you live above a tube tunnel?
Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels
are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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"Richard J." wrote in message
... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. -- Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org E-mail: URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:51:01 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can certainly hear a few feet down to the Hammersmith and City from the toilets in the Euston Flyer! I seem to recall a friend saying something similar about somewhere in the centre of town above the Central Line though... -- Rob |
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"Richard J." wrote in message
... If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? As a child I regularly visited the cinema in Turnpike Lane, and the Piccadilly trains were quite audible. Tunnel, track and train construction have improved since then, though, but you can still hear Victoria Line trains while standing on the (overground) platforms at Drayton Park. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) Used to live right above the Central Line on Shepherds Bush Green. I lived on the first floor but the noise from the passing trains below was very evident in the evenings (I believe the trains went around a bend below so the noise was probably worse). The Central line, however, is almost certainly much closer to the surface than Crossrail will be. Also Crossrail can be constructed with noise dampening measures built into the track bed, and the track is bound to be continuously welded, so I would guess the noise problem will be much, much less. Colin |
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Terry Harper wrote:
Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can also hear them from certain parts of the basement of Shell Centre (York Road, Waterloo). The building is constructed on a concrete raft, which is said to come within a few feet of the Bakerloo tunnel. -- John Ray, London UK. Mail to mefp49 is unlikely to be read. I can be contacted at xcf70 (same ISP). |
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"Richard J." wrote in message ...
Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. My sister's house is above the Central Line tunnels and you can hear a very low rumbling sound when all else is quiet - it is almost felt rather than heard. They are used to it but when I stay the night the first train in the morning sometimes wakes me up. The house is about 100 years old and some cracks and settlement were noted by the surveyor when they bought it - but nothing serious or unusual for a property of that age. She also has the DLR running behind her back garden and a bus garage at the front - but she seems to be happy there! In addition to the widely reported 'disappearance into the void' of a number of back gardens in Stratford there are also apparaently cracks appearing in properties in Romford Road above the Channel Tunnel Rail Link. Apparently the official response is that the tunneling may well have caused limited ground settlement and Union Railways have offered to survey the properties and repair any damage caused by this. |
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In article , Rob
id writes On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:51:01 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper" wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can certainly hear a few feet down to the Hammersmith and City from the toilets in the Euston Flyer! I seem to recall a friend saying something similar about somewhere in the centre of town above the Central Line though... I used to work in Yalding House in Gt Portland St, and you could hear the Victoria line in the basement... And I remember the old (now demolished) cinema at Turnpike Lane, where I saw Earthquake, with it's special seat-shaking sound, and only realised that the vibrations I'd been feeling were not the special effects but tube trains sometime into the film, as they shook the seats more than the special effects.... -- Steve -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/B$ d++(-) s+:+ a+ C++ UL++ L+ P+ W++ N+++ K w--- O V PS+++ PE- t+ 5++ X- R* tv+ b+++ DI++ G e h---- r+++ z++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels. They will also be constructed to far higher standards than any tube line in London barring the recent DLR and JLE tunnels. While I don't think anyone can provide a guarantee that there will be no noise I would say the risk from modern infrastructure design and modern rolling stock will be low. Obvious areas of potential environmental harm will have to be identified and mitigated / removed in order for the project to proceed. Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. Not aware of any JLE subsidence but there are provisions in the legislation that allowed construction to put right any damage that is demonstrably caused by the line. Such provisions are standard practice and usually put in place to deal with issues raised by objectors to the scheme. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
Do you live above a tube tunnel?
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) Anybody who wishes to experience this sort of thing only has to pop into the "Salisbury" pub on Green Lanes between Manor House & Turnpike Lane for a couple of pints. Sit by the fireplace on the Manor House side of the pub and revel in the Piccadilly Rumble. -- Cheers, Steve. If The Good Lord had meant for us to be fiscally prudent, He would not have given us the platinum credit card... Change colour to PC Plod's lights to reply. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... In article , Rob id writes On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:51:01 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper" wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can certainly hear a few feet down to the Hammersmith and City from the toilets in the Euston Flyer! I seem to recall a friend saying something similar about somewhere in the centre of town above the Central Line though... I used to work in Yalding House in Gt Portland St, and you could hear the Victoria line in the basement... And I remember the old (now demolished) cinema at Turnpike Lane, where I saw Earthquake, with it's special seat-shaking sound, and only realised that the vibrations I'd been feeling were not the special effects but tube trains sometime into the film, as they shook the seats more than the special effects.... -- I used to work for a company that owns several West End theatres, and a fair number of them suffer from rumblings during performances. The Garrick, Wyndhams, Albery, and Criterion are some but I think a few others have the same problem. Andrew |
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"Steve Dulieu" wrote in message ... "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) Anybody who wishes to experience this sort of thing only has to pop into the "Salisbury" pub on Green Lanes between Manor House & Turnpike Lane for a couple of pints. Sit by the fireplace on the Manor House side of the pub and revel in the Piccadilly Rumble. -- The North Star on the Finchley Road is good for this too, the Metropolitan line runs a few feet below the cellar floor. Andrew |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J." wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels. Actually the Crossrail tunnel from the Great Western main line to Chiswick will be 17 - 18 metres below the surface, which I think is about average for tube tunnels in London. Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/genericpanels/$FILE/central+london+stations.pdf -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Steve Dulieu wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) Anybody who wishes to experience this sort of thing only has to pop into the "Salisbury" pub on Green Lanes between Manor House & Turnpike Lane for a couple of pints. Sit by the fireplace on the Manor House side of the pub and revel in the Piccadilly Rumble. Do you know how deep the Piccadilly is at that location? -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In article , Paul Corfield
wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J." wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels. They will also be constructed to far higher standards than any tube line in London barring the recent DLR and JLE tunnels. While I don't think anyone can provide a guarantee that there will be no noise I would say the risk from modern infrastructure design and modern rolling stock will be low. Obvious areas of potential environmental harm will have to be identified and mitigated / removed in order for the project to proceed. Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. Not aware of any JLE subsidence but there are provisions in the legislation that allowed construction to put right any damage that is demonstrably caused by the line. Such provisions are standard practice and usually put in place to deal with issues raised by objectors to the scheme. Before the JLE was built there was a major programme of condition surveys to record all cracks etc in buildings along the route. This included much of Whitehall, the Palace of Westminster and Boudica's statue. This was to ensure that no one was able to claim for pre-existing problems. (Including presumably the Government). There was a lot of press nonsense about the effect of the construction of Westminster station on the Victoria Tower, including from one paper that did not seem to know the difference between metres and milli-metres. The effect was less than that during the construction of the underground car park in the 1970's. The tower moves just as much between tides in the River Thames! John |
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Steve wrote:
I used to work in Yalding House in Gt Portland St, and you could hear the Victoria line in the basement... Probably not a good thing for the current occupants - BBC Radio 1! |
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"Richard J." wrote in message ... Steve Dulieu wrote: "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) Anybody who wishes to experience this sort of thing only has to pop into the "Salisbury" pub on Green Lanes between Manor House & Turnpike Lane for a couple of pints. Sit by the fireplace on the Manor House side of the pub and revel in the Piccadilly Rumble. Do you know how deep the Piccadilly is at that location? Ain't got a clue I'm afraid... -- Cheers, Steve. If The Good Lord had meant for us to be fiscally prudent, He would not have given us the platinum credit card... Change colour to PC Plod's lights to reply. |
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"Richard J." wrote in message
... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Not quite what you asked, but last year I occasionally used to frequent a house in Hunter Street, King's Cross, where the rumbling of passing Piccadilly Line trains could be heard. Only faintly, but it was there. |
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"Stuart" wrote in message ... Steve wrote: I used to work in Yalding House in Gt Portland St, and you could hear the Victoria line in the basement... Probably not a good thing for the current occupants - BBC Radio 1! Hmm, I wondered what that irritating noise was. -- Brian "What's the point in growing up if you can't behave like a kid when you want to." |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 23:27:44 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels. Actually the Crossrail tunnel from the Great Western main line to Chiswick will be 17 - 18 metres below the surface, which I think is about average for tube tunnels in London. Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/genericpanels/$FILE/central+london+stations.pdf yes - I did say "likely to be", not definitely. anyway - are you collating these comments as some sort of evidence to mount a challenge to the Crossrail or to stop a challenge? -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
"Richard J." wrote in message ... If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? As a child I regularly visited the cinema in Turnpike Lane, and the Piccadilly trains were quite audible. Tunnel, track and train construction have improved since then, though, but you can still hear Victoria Line trains while standing on the (overground) platforms at Drayton Park. As an aside , what happened to the tunnels that went north from drayton park to finsbury park? I know the bits near finsbury were reused but what about the rest of them? Are the tunnels still there or were they filled in? B2003 |
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Any student from Queen Mary College from the 80s will possibly recall
the same as myself, that when you were taking exams in the 'Great Hall', that every 2 minutes or so a tube train would rumble underneath - District Line, I would hazard a guess. Put me off the first few times, I can tell you ! Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. |
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We await with interest, living adjacent to the NLL on Caledonian Road,
have been subjected to vibration from heavy goods trains passing day and night. Recently the track has been relayed and that is now significantly reduced. However TBM Annie has now arrived for CTRL, and engineering until 2007, then actual running of CTRL will be nearer than NLL. WE wait with interest. Chris On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J." wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Similarly, have you had any cracks and subsidence? There was a report in March 2002 that the land above the line of the JLE had sunk by the odd centimetre. __________________________________________________ _____________________ This e-mail, and any attachment, may contain Confidential Information. Receipt of this information does not imply nor entitle any rights to possession or use. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify the sender immediately. __________________________________________________ _____________________ Chris Box 2534 Tel. [44] 0 (20) 7609-1093 London, Fax. [44] 0 (20) 7609-6910 WC1N 3XX, UK http://www.crag.dircon.co.uk |
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In message , Richard J.
writes Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. You could hear the District/Circle line very distinctly in the shops in the now demolished row along the north of Victoria St. No doubt the new Plaza they are building there will take account of this. -- Roland Perry |
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Hmm, I wondered what that irritating noise was.
Thats funny, I thought it was Sara Cox. -- To reply direct, remove NOSPAM and replace with railwaysonline For Train Information, The Latest News & Best photos around check out the Award Winning Railways Online at http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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"Richard J." wrote in message
... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? My sister used to live above the Picadilly Line near Manor House and you could hear rumblings from the trains passing underneath -- To reply direct, remove NOSPAM and replace with railwaysonline For Train Information, The Latest News & Best photos around check out the Award Winning Railways Online at http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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Richard J. writes:
Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? ... have you had any cracks and subsidence? Of course, if you want to talk about subsidence, there was the little matter of November 27, 1923. But, on the other hand, that was during an attempt to reconstruct the tunnel (then over 30 years old) while maintaining a train service through it. See http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/northern.html for a brief account. -- Mark Brader, Toronto "These Millennia are like buses." --Arwel Parry My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
anyway - are you collating these comments as some sort of evidence to mount a challenge to the Crossrail or to stop a challenge? Crossrail have said that they will design the tunnels and tracks "with the aim that noise levels in overlying buildings will be below the significance criteria of 40 dB(LAmax,S)". That doesn't mean much to most people, and I wanted to find out what was being experieced at present. No comments so far from the JLE, which would be interesting as an example of a modern line. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Boltar wrote:
As an aside , what happened to the tunnels that went north from drayton park to finsbury park? I know the bits near finsbury were reused but what about the rest of them? Are the tunnels still there or were they filled in? This should answer your question: http://www.pendar.pwp.blueyonder.co....aytonPark.html |
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"Richard J." wrote in
: Paul Corfield wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:15 GMT, "Richard J." wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? I don't live above a tube tunnel. However the Crossrail tunnels are likely to be far deeper than tube tunnels. Actually the Crossrail tunnel from the Great Western main line to Chiswick will be 17 - 18 metres below the surface, which I think is about average for tube tunnels in London. Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090...genericpanels/ $FILE/c entral+london+stations.pdf any one spot a possible error in the typical station design? |
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In message , woutster
writes any one spot a possible error in the typical station design? The lifts are misnamed (street level to ticket hall, and ticket hall to platform, are transposed). -- Roland Perry |
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woutster wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in : Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090053AF4C/Files/genericpanels/$FILE/central+london+stations.pdf any one spot a possible error in the typical station design? They've got the two western lifts labelled the wrong way round, but that's a presentation fault, not an error with the design. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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"Richard J." wrote in
: woutster wrote: "Richard J." wrote in : Even in Central London, the Crossrail tunnels will run *above* the Jubilee, Northern, Central, and Piccadilly lines in the Oxford Stret/Holborn area. There is a vertical section through the central part of the route at http://www.crossrail.co.uk/80256B090...genericpanels/ $FILE/c entral+london+stations.pdf any one spot a possible error in the typical station design? They've got the two western lifts labelled the wrong way round, but that's a presentation fault, not an error with the design. admitidly not an error in design, but still an issue that should have been noticed before publication |
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:01:57 +0000, John Ray wrote:
Terry Harper wrote: Some long time ago, the Glass Manufacturers Federation had their offices in Portland Place. When in the basement, you could just about hear the Bakerloo line trains passing below. You can also hear them from certain parts of the basement of Shell Centre (York Road, Waterloo). The building is constructed on a concrete raft, which is said to come within a few feet of the Bakerloo tunnel. There's an Indian restaurant at the junction of Harper Road and Newington Causeway in a basement. We were there last week and you could feel and hear the Northern Line trains pass by. The food's very good, however, so don't let that put you off. -- Chris Hansen | chrishansenhome at btinternet dot com |
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"Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? A number of transport-related societies used to meet at the Fred Tallant Hall in Drummond Street which runs parallel to and to the north of Euston Road. The meeting rooms are on the first floor but trains could be heard and felt quite distinctly but not obtrusively. I don't know whether they were the tube line at Euston Square or the Circle Line. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 02/01/04 |
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Richard J. wrote:
Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Staying overnight in a house in Southgate, some way from the underground section of the tunnel (which runs under playing fields of the local college), it is still possible to hear the trains rumble through if you listen carefully enough late evening or early morning. Given the location of the house, which was nearly on the High Street, this is quite surprising. J |
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james007 wrote:
Richard J. wrote: Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? Staying overnight in a house in Southgate, some way from the underground section of the tunnel (which runs under playing fields of the local college), it is still possible to hear the trains rumble through if you listen carefully enough late evening or early morning. Given the location of the house, which was nearly on the High Street, this is quite surprising. You're probably only about 500 metres from one of the open sections of line either side of the Southgate tunnel, in which case it's not surprising that you can hear trains. That seems to me a more likely explanation than ground-borne noise from the tunnel. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Richard J. wrote:
Staying overnight in a house in Southgate, some way from the underground section of the tunnel (which runs under playing fields of the local college), it is still possible to hear the trains rumble through if you listen carefully enough late evening or early morning. Given the location of the house, which was nearly on the High Street, this is quite surprising. You're probably only about 500 metres from one of the open sections of line either side of the Southgate tunnel, in which case it's not surprising that you can hear trains. That seems to me a more likely explanation than ground-borne noise from the tunnel. Yes, 500 metres from both ends, in fact. However, the noise is a constant getting-louder-rumble, getting-quieter-rumble. It's not what you'd expect to hear from an open section (and I should know, because I live near one). The tube is probably running about 250 metres away underground at this location, judging by the map. |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... "Richard J." wrote in message ... Some residents who live above the proposed line of the Crossrail tunnels are concerned about possible noise and vibration in their homes when the trains are running. Is there anyone on utl who lives or works directly above an existing tube (not sub-surface) tunnel? If so, do you experience any noise and vibration? My sister used to live above the Picadilly Line near Manor House and you could hear rumblings from the trains passing underneath -- To reply direct, remove NOSPAM and replace with railwaysonline For Train Information, The Latest News & Best photos around check out the Award Winning Railways Online at http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk I lived in a flat for a while which was directly above the Glasgow Underground's Circle line, between Hillhead and Kelvinbridge. Every 30-60 seconds the floor/walls vibrated when a train was passing underneath. I got used to it after a while and actually miss it now I'm back living in London. I now live near Clapham Junction and hear overground trains go by every 30-60 seconds.....but it's not the same as living directly above a tube line. |
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