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On 23/01/2012 13:52, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
wrote: On 22/01/2012 21:52, Stephen Sprunk wrote: There's also the time it takes to count the customer's money and, if applicable, make change. This is particularly bad in the US since taxes are not included in the price, so the total due is rarely known before the order is rung up. Why is that, I wonder? I think that is also the case with the GST and PST in Canada. Here in many (if not all) parts of Europe, the price that you pay for something already has relevant taxes figured in. Yet here in the United States, when prices for airline travel and hotel rooms are stated, they included taxes. In Europe, travel prices are more often stated without all taxes included. That's not been my experience on premium airlines. When I buy a ticket on something like BA or SAS, the price quoted is the price that I pay. The ticket will indicate a breakdown of prices, such as the actual seat charge and all the relevant taxes. It is possible that you were looking at a fare quoted by a budget airline. Many of them, as part of their sales gimmick, have in the past advertised very low fares but have not always note all the taxes. This is something, against which the European Commission has come out. |
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But in a commuter rail system like SEPTA with numerous stations that
are lightly used, there is a steep infrastructure cost in the installation of fare vending machines at every station, and in most places, on every platform (going from one platform to another often requires a long walk through a tunnel or over a bridge at the street.) Fare machines need comm lines which would have to be installed. They would need to be visited periodically to be emptied of cash and refilled with ticket stock and ink, and repair vandalism. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. In San Francisco, the Muni streetcar lines run partly in tunnels and partly on the surface, not unlike the way they work in Philadelphia. In the tunnel, there are ticket booths where you either pay or tap as you pass through the turnstile. On the surface, you use the tap reader in the car or pay the driver, who gives you a paper transfer. Retrofitting the tap readers can't be that hard, they've put them in all of the PCC cars on the F line. and the cable car conductors have portable readers. Actually, if going to POP, a paper based system like the River Line would do the job and I don't see any advantage to an electronic ticket. Smartcards have other advantages. For example, at this point to get the joint PATCO-SEPTA fare, you have to stop at a PATCO machine and buy the discounted SEPTA ticket every time you plan to make a transfer. With smartcards, you just tap at the entrance to each and it charges you the right amount. To me, electronic tickets are only justified with turnstiles. Many transit systems disagree with you. R's, John |
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On 24/01/2012 04:16, Glen Labah wrote:
In , Roland wrote: There are also millions of merchants who don't accept credit cards. And plenty of folks in far flung countries who'll take dollars in cash. I have heard that in Jamaica they prefer the US dollar, against the Jamaican dollar. People have told me you will actually wind up paying more in the US-dollar equivalent if you decide to pay in Jamaican dollars. One woman who recently visited the Carribean told me that she would pay for something in US dollars, but get change back in EC dollars. |
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On 24/01/2012 12:05, Alistair Gunn wrote:
In uk.railway d twisted the electrons to say: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Alistair wrote: The stat appaers to come from the Royal Mint, based upon how many fakes have been sent to them to be destroyed. Personally most of the fakes I've seen have been so bad that they only pass inspection if you don't, in fact, inspect them! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10774366 Serves them right for getting rid of pound notes. Supposedly the #1 coin was only slightly more expensive to produce whilst being expected to last 50x as long ... FWIW, the 1-pound note is very widely used in the Bailiwick of Guernsey. Indeed, it is not often that one receives change back in Guernsey pound coins. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On 24/01/2012 04:16, Glen Labah wrote: In , Roland wrote: There are also millions of merchants who don't accept credit cards. And plenty of folks in far flung countries who'll take dollars in cash. I have heard that in Jamaica they prefer the US dollar, against the Jamaican dollar. People have told me you will actually wind up paying more in the US-dollar equivalent if you decide to pay in Jamaican dollars. One woman who recently visited the Carribean told me that she would pay for something in US dollars, but get change back in EC dollars. I tried to pay cash for a hotel stay in Manchester they didn't how to cope with it. |
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Roland Perry wrote:
at 16:48:57 on Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Adam H. Kerman remarked: several pretty lame insults Is this misc.transport.pot.kettle ? I don't object to witty insults. |
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What about on petrol, or gasoline, what are the taxes on them in New
Jersey? Quite low, 14.5 cents/gal compared to about 44c in New York Is it often that people from neighbouring states who live close to the state line nip across to tank up their automobiles? All the time. Keep in mind that if you're in New York City, a visit to NJ involves a toll of $7.50 (E-ZPass) or $12 (cash) so it's not worth it unless you have other business in NJ. But there is a significant land border between the states, and plenty of cross-border gas shopping. Can authorities do anything about that? Not that I've ever seen. For the same reason, Canadians nip into the US to buy gas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estcourt_Station,_Maine R's, John |
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