As far as im aware current plans for Crossrail dont involve breaching
it - there was talk of using it for spoil removal but it was too
expensive.

Chris

On Jan 25, 7:28*pm, Chris Sanderson wrote:

As far as im aware current plans for Crossrail dont involve breaching
it - there was talk of using it for spoil removal but it was too
expensive.

This is exactly how I understand it now - not to be breached in the
destructuve sense, but there had been planned some intrusion to use
the tunnel for construction access but that has been dropped.

--
Nick

On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:08:23 -0800 (PST)
D7666 wrote:
On Jan 25, 7:28=A0pm, Chris Sanderson wrote:

As far as im aware current plans for Crossrail dont involve breaching
it - there was talk of using it for spoil removal but it was too
expensive.

This is exactly how I understand it now - not to be breached in the
destructuve sense, but there had been planned some intrusion to use
the tunnel for construction access but that has been dropped.

Not surprising really. You'd have enough trouble just getting men with
shovels down those tiny tunnels never mind any construction machinery.

B2003

On Jan 25, 5:59*pm, Phil Cook wrote:
On 25/01/2012 17:43, Guy Gorton wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:25:32 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Michael Portillo rode the Post Office Railway during one of his recent
Great British Railway Journeys Series 3 programmes. It was described
as a 'secret miniature railway under London.' However it closed in the
mid-2000s. So is it mothballed and kept in working orderf in case it
is needed again? Moot point. CJB.

Before closure, it was open to organised visits. *Fascinating system.

After closure it was open to some clandestine visitors...

http://www.silentuk.com/?p=2792
--
Phil Cook

And more great pics here ...

http://www.placehacking.co.uk/2011/0...don-mail-rail/

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:02:30 -0800 (PST), CJB wrote:

On Jan 25, 5:59*pm, Phil Cook wrote:
On 25/01/2012 17:43, Guy Gorton wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:25:32 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Michael Portillo rode the Post Office Railway during one of his recent
Great British Railway Journeys Series 3 programmes. It was described
as a 'secret miniature railway under London.' However it closed in the
mid-2000s. So is it mothballed and kept in working orderf in case it
is needed again? Moot point. CJB.

Before closure, it was open to organised visits. *Fascinating system.

After closure it was open to some clandestine visitors...

http://www.silentuk.com/?p=2792
--
Phil Cook

And more great pics here ...

http://www.placehacking.co.uk/2011/0...don-mail-rail/

It would be nice to use it for a narrow-gauge crossrail, with through trains between the Festiniog and the Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch (OK, I
know the gauges are different..).

On Jan 26, 9:30*am, wrote:

You'd have enough trouble just getting men with
shovels down those tiny tunnels never mind any construction machinery.


The running tunnel is 9 ft diameter : the running tunnel between
stations are all double track.

9 ft is a good deal larger that many site construction tunnel or even
final tunnels e.g. sewer or water tunnels that have construction
railways in them.


--
Nick

On 26/01/2012 09:30, d wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:08:23 -0800 (PST)
wrote:
On Jan 25, 7:28=A0pm, Chris wrote:

As far as im aware current plans for Crossrail dont involve breaching
it - there was talk of using it for spoil removal but it was too
expensive.

This is exactly how I understand it now - not to be breached in the
destructuve sense, but there had been planned some intrusion to use
the tunnel for construction access but that has been dropped.

Not surprising really. You'd have enough trouble just getting men with
shovels down those tiny tunnels never mind any construction machinery.

Dwarfs are meant to be good at tunnelling.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On 26/01/2012 21:12, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 26/01/2012 09:30, d wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:08:23 -0800 (PST)
wrote:
On Jan 25, 7:28=A0pm, Chris wrote:

As far as im aware current plans for Crossrail dont involve breaching
it - there was talk of using it for spoil removal but it was too
expensive.

This is exactly how I understand it now - not to be breached in the
destructuve sense, but there had been planned some intrusion to use
the tunnel for construction access but that has been dropped.

Not surprising really. You'd have enough trouble just getting men with
shovels down those tiny tunnels never mind any construction machinery.

Dwarfs are meant to be good at tunnelling.


So, what is Mail Rail's ultimate fate, then?

D7666 wrote:

On Jan 26, 9:30*am, wrote:

You'd have enough trouble just getting men with
shovels down those tiny tunnels never mind any construction machinery.


The running tunnel is 9 ft diameter : the running tunnel between
stations are all double track.

9 ft is a good deal larger that many site construction tunnel or even
final tunnels e.g. sewer or water tunnels that have construction
railways in them.


The notorious heading through the railway embankment and under the
Blockbuster store in Fallowfield, Greater Manchester to gain access to
the cash machine was only about 1.3m x 1.3m. That's about 4' 4".

No railway in that tunnel, though. ;-)

In article
,
(D7666) wrote:

On Jan 26, 9:30*am, wrote:

You'd have enough trouble just getting men with shovels down those
tiny tunnels never mind any construction machinery.

The running tunnel is 9 ft diameter : the running tunnel between
stations are all double track.

FSVO "all". Look at the pictures. There are clearly some single track
tunnels which are smaller.

9 ft is a good deal larger that many site construction tunnel or even
final tunnels e.g. sewer or water tunnels that have construction
railways in them.

Where the tunnels are 9ft that would be true.

--
Colin Rosenstiel