On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:33:38 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

On Feb 23, 10:09*pm, Charles Ellson
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:22:59 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:


On Feb 23, 5:38*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:53*pm, Andy wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:59*am, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:14:47 -0000

"Peter Masson" wrote:
"burkey" wrote

Plans to start Croxley Rail Link services in 2016

The formal (Railways Act 2005) closure notice for Watford LUL station has
now been published. Any objections must be in by 12 April, though actual
closure will not take place until the Croxley Link is open, expected in
2016.

I expect the residents of the new estate next to the station who no doubt
BOUGHT BAsed on proximity to the tube are going to be mightily miffed.

And even more miffed with their solicitors, if the plans for the
existing station to close were not bought to their attention before
buying?

The nearest tube station is quite some distance. *I guess it would be
Edgeware?

Not that I mentioned tube stations but, if you are going to be
pedantic, it would help if you could get the name Edgware correct!!
Stanmore is closer to Watford Met anyway.

But while generally frequented by tube trains is not a tube station.

Of course, if we are going to get silly, then not too far from Watford
Met, on the north curve from Croxley to Rickmansworth, there is the
only tunnel with tube like construction on the Met.

Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.
The tube is now widely used for all London Underground services and
even TfL now use the term for both the deep level 'tube' lines and the
Sub-Surface lines.

So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

On 24/02/2012 02:07, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:33:38 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 23, 10:09 pm, Charles
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:22:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


On Feb 23, 5:38 pm, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:53 pm, wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:59 am, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:14:47 -0000

"Peter wrote:
wrote

Plans to start Croxley Rail Link services in 2016

The formal (Railways Act 2005) closure notice for Watford LUL station has
now been published. Any objections must be in by 12 April, though actual
closure will not take place until the Croxley Link is open, expected in
2016.

I expect the residents of the new estate next to the station who no doubt
BOUGHT BAsed on proximity to the tube are going to be mightily miffed.

And even more miffed with their solicitors, if the plans for the
existing station to close were not bought to their attention before
buying?

The nearest tube station is quite some distance. I guess it would be
Edgeware?

Not that I mentioned tube stations but, if you are going to be
pedantic, it would help if you could get the name Edgware correct!!
Stanmore is closer to Watford Met anyway.

But while generally frequented by tube trains is not a tube station.

Of course, if we are going to get silly, then not too far from Watford
Met, on the north curve from Croxley to Rickmansworth, there is the
only tunnel with tube like construction on the Met.

Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.
The tube is now widely used for all London Underground services and
even TfL now use the term for both the deep level 'tube' lines and the
Sub-Surface lines.

So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

In parts of New York the Subway runs on viaducts.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Charles Ellson writes:
So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

In language? Yes.

-miles

--
In New York, most people don't have cars, so if you want to kill a person, you
have to take the subway to their house. And sometimes on the way, the train
is delayed and you get impatient, so you have to kill someone on the subway.
[George Carlin]

On Feb 24, 2:07*am, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:33:38 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:









On Feb 23, 10:09*pm, Charles Ellson
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:22:59 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

On Feb 23, 5:38*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:53*pm, Andy wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:59*am, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:14:47 -0000

"Peter Masson" wrote:
"burkey" wrote

Plans to start Croxley Rail Link services in 2016

The formal (Railways Act 2005) closure notice for Watford LUL station has
now been published. Any objections must be in by 12 April, though actual
closure will not take place until the Croxley Link is open, expected in
2016.

I expect the residents of the new estate next to the station who no doubt
BOUGHT BAsed on proximity to the tube are going to be mightily miffed.

And even more miffed with their solicitors, if the plans for the
existing station to close were not bought to their attention before
buying?

The nearest tube station is quite some distance. *I guess it would be
Edgeware?

Not that I mentioned tube stations but, if you are going to be
pedantic, it would help if you could get the name Edgware correct!!
Stanmore is closer to Watford Met anyway.

But while generally frequented by tube trains is not a tube station.

Of course, if we are going to get silly, then not too far from Watford
Met, on the north curve from Croxley to Rickmansworth, there is the
only tunnel with tube like construction on the Met.

Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.
The tube is now widely used for all London Underground services and
even TfL now use the term for both the deep level 'tube' lines and the
Sub-Surface lines.

So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

You seemed to be making a different point than none of the stations
mentioned are in underground tubes. I was pointing out that there are
very few stations which are tubes even when underground. However, if
TfL are happy to call them tube stations, then why aren't you?

On 24/02/2012 01:33, Andy wrote:
On Feb 23, 10:09 pm, Charles
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:22:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:









On Feb 23, 5:38 pm, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:53 pm, wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:59 am, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:14:47 -0000

"Peter wrote:
wrote

Plans to start Croxley Rail Link services in 2016

The formal (Railways Act 2005) closure notice for Watford LUL station has
now been published. Any objections must be in by 12 April, though actual
closure will not take place until the Croxley Link is open, expected in
2016.

I expect the residents of the new estate next to the station who no doubt
BOUGHT BAsed on proximity to the tube are going to be mightily miffed.

And even more miffed with their solicitors, if the plans for the
existing station to close were not bought to their attention before
buying?

The nearest tube station is quite some distance. I guess it would be
Edgeware?

Not that I mentioned tube stations but, if you are going to be
pedantic, it would help if you could get the name Edgware correct!!
Stanmore is closer to Watford Met anyway.

But while generally frequented by tube trains is not a tube station.

Of course, if we are going to get silly, then not too far from Watford
Met, on the north curve from Croxley to Rickmansworth, there is the
only tunnel with tube like construction on the Met.

Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.

Often still a tube though, just a larger diameter than the running tunnels

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

On 24/02/2012 08:23, Martin Edwards wrote:
On 24/02/2012 02:07, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:33:38 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 23, 10:09 pm, Charles
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:22:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


On Feb 23, 5:38 pm, wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:53 pm, wrote:

On Feb 23, 11:59 am, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:14:47 -0000

"Peter wrote:
wrote

Plans to start Croxley Rail Link services in 2016

The formal (Railways Act 2005) closure notice for Watford LUL
station has
now been published. Any objections must be in by 12 April,
though actual
closure will not take place until the Croxley Link is open,
expected in
2016.

I expect the residents of the new estate next to the station who
no doubt
BOUGHT BAsed on proximity to the tube are going to be mightily
miffed.

And even more miffed with their solicitors, if the plans for the
existing station to close were not bought to their attention before
buying?

The nearest tube station is quite some distance. I guess it would be
Edgeware?

Not that I mentioned tube stations but, if you are going to be
pedantic, it would help if you could get the name Edgware correct!!
Stanmore is closer to Watford Met anyway.

But while generally frequented by tube trains is not a tube station.

Of course, if we are going to get silly, then not too far from Watford
Met, on the north curve from Croxley to Rickmansworth, there is the
only tunnel with tube like construction on the Met.

Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.
The tube is now widely used for all London Underground services and
even TfL now use the term for both the deep level 'tube' lines and the
Sub-Surface lines.

So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

In parts of New York the Subway runs on viaducts.


In parts of London the Underground runs on viaducts.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

"Graeme Wall" wrote

In parts of London the Underground runs on viaducts.

At Whitechapel the Underground runs above the Overground.

Peter

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:07:23 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote:
Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.
The tube is now widely used for all London Underground services and
even TfL now use the term for both the deep level 'tube' lines and the
Sub-Surface lines.

So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

The whole system is known as the tube ergo the met line is part of it
regardless of the loading gauge of the trains. Whether it was considered
so 100 years is irrelevant. Definitions change. Deal.

B2003

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:48:32 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 23/02/2012 21:16, Recliner wrote:
I did wonder if Stanmore, or Rainers Lane might be closer.
I've never heard of "Rainers Lane" (it's certainly not in London), but
wouldn't Harrow& Wealdstone on the Bakerloo line be nearer?

Perhaps you've heard of Rayners Lane then...

Of course I have, and have often changed trains there, as well as
driving along the aforesaid lane. That's why I know how it's spelled.

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:47:19 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:07:23 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote:
Very few stations are tube stations anyway, even in central London, as
the running tunnel has often been opened out to form the platforms.
The tube is now widely used for all London Underground services and
even TfL now use the term for both the deep level 'tube' lines and the
Sub-Surface lines.

So ? Does repetition make something any more true ?

The whole system is known as the tube ergo the met line is part of it
regardless of the loading gauge of the trains. Whether it was considered
so 100 years is irrelevant. Definitions change. Deal.

Indeed, much of the first TV programme entitled "The Tube" was about
relaying track at Harrow-on-the-Hill station, which is a long way from
any Tube tunnels.