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Chris Read[_2_] February 24th 12 06:05 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 

If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?

I will need to pick up my ticket from a machine at Paddington, unless
I can do that in my four minute connection at Lewes.

What route might the cab take to minimise time? I'm guessing the Vic
Embankment and Euston Road are best avoided at that time of day, but
am thinking the driver might stay south of the river to beyond
Waterloo, then come up Vauxhall Bridge Road*, Buckingham Palace Road,
Park Lane and into Paddington via the Lancaster Gate direction?

Finally, I will have an Anytime Standard ticket. Can I excess this to
an Anytime First on the train, or will they try and issue a PF or
insist on purchase of a brand new Anytime First ticket?

Thanks,

Chris

* Or Horseferry Road and into Vic Street - that one seems to run quite
smoothly.

Peter Masson[_2_] February 24th 12 06:27 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 


"Chris Read" wrote in message
...

If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?

Marginally less than doing it by tube (Jubilee to Baker Street then
Bakerloo).

Peter
(memories of the times I arrived at Paddington on a train due at 1738 and
caught the 1750 from Charing Cross - though it was 1967, the train into
Paddington was often up to 10 minutes early, and after 10 July 1967 almost
all peak trains from Charing Cross had a late start)


Chris Read[_2_] February 24th 12 06:55 PM

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"Peter Masson" wrote:

"Chris Read" wrote:


If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?


Marginally less than doing it by tube (Jubilee to Baker Street then
Bakerloo).


The Jubilee platforms at London Bridge are a bit 'journey to the
centre of the earth', and the headways are generally dire, at any time
of day, if the trains are running at all. 12 months of commuting to
Canary Wharf (2007) put me off the Jubilee for life, but maybe things
are better now.

I guess if everything is running well, your contention might be
correct.

(memories of the times I arrived at Paddington on a train due at 1738 and
caught the 1750 from Charing Cross - though it was 1967, the train into
Paddington was often up to 10 minutes early, and after 10 July 1967 almost
all peak trains from Charing Cross had a late start)


It can't be relied upon, but that train into London Bridge is often
two or three minutes early, in contrast to the later Coastway services
which are generally a few minutes late on arrival.

Chris

Roland Perry February 24th 12 07:29 PM

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In message , at 19:05:59 on
Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Chris Read remarked:
What route might the cab take to minimise time?


They are supposed to take the shortest distance (within reason), if you
are in a hurry you need to tell the driver to take a longer, but faster,
route.
--
Roland Perry

Arthur Figgis February 24th 12 07:40 PM

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On 24/02/2012 19:05, Chris Read wrote:

If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?


I'm not sure I'd fancy planning to make such a connection, even with a
personal jet-pack, if it was in any way important.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Bruce[_2_] February 24th 12 07:48 PM

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Chris Read wrote:
The Jubilee platforms at London Bridge are a bit 'journey to the
centre of the earth', and the headways are generally dire, at any time
of day, if the trains are running at all. 12 months of commuting to
Canary Wharf (2007) put me off the Jubilee for life, but maybe things
are better now.



There is always the Northern Line to Moorgate or Kings Cross/St
Pancras, then the Hammersmith and City Line to Paddington.

Either has to be quicker than a taxi from London Bridge to Paddington.

Then there is the LUL/taxi option with the Northern Line to Euston and
a short taxi ride to Paddington ... ;-)


[email protected] February 24th 12 07:58 PM

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On Feb 24, 8:40*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:
I'm not sure I'd fancy planning to make such a connection, even with a
personal jet-pack, if it was in any way important.


Seems risky in the extreme. Where does your journey actually commence?
Just wondering whether there is any option of travelling to Reading
(not via London) and picking up your onward connection there at c.
0810?

--
gordon

Pat O'Neill February 24th 12 08:06 PM

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"Chris Read" wrote in message
...
"Peter Masson" wrote:


"Chris Read" wrote:


If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?


Marginally less than doing it by tube (Jubilee to Baker Street then
Bakerloo).


The Jubilee platforms at London Bridge are a bit 'journey to the
centre of the earth', and the headways are generally dire, at any time
of day, if the trains are running at all. 12 months of commuting to
Canary Wharf (2007) put me off the Jubilee for life, but maybe things
are better now.

I guess if everything is running well, your contention might be
correct.

(memories of the times I arrived at Paddington on a train due at 1738 and
caught the 1750 from Charing Cross - though it was 1967, the train into
Paddington was often up to 10 minutes early, and after 10 July 1967 almost
all peak trains from Charing Cross had a late start)


It can't be relied upon, but that train into London Bridge is often
two or three minutes early, in contrast to the later Coastway services
which are generally a few minutes late on arrival.

Chris

Does the Cardiff train stop at Reading?
Gatwick/Reading service an option?






Graham Harrison[_2_] February 24th 12 08:16 PM

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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
Chris Read wrote:
The Jubilee platforms at London Bridge are a bit 'journey to the
centre of the earth', and the headways are generally dire, at any time
of day, if the trains are running at all. 12 months of commuting to
Canary Wharf (2007) put me off the Jubilee for life, but maybe things
are better now.



There is always the Northern Line to Moorgate or Kings Cross/St
Pancras, then the Hammersmith and City Line to Paddington.

Either has to be quicker than a taxi from London Bridge to Paddington.

Then there is the LUL/taxi option with the Northern Line to Euston and
a short taxi ride to Paddington ... ;-)


Why go down into the Northern? Thameslink to Moorgate then Circle. I
suppose it depends on the connection given the (in) frequency of Thameslink.

But whether using a taxi or public transport I'm with those who don't think
this connection is something I would rely on.

As far as a taxi route is concerned I'd leave it to the driver, just tell
him your dilemma and leave it to him. I haven't got the new layout for
taxis at Paddington established in my head yet but it might be worth telling
him the train is planned to use platform 9 in case that affects where he
drops you.


Arthur Figgis February 24th 12 08:44 PM

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On 24/02/2012 21:16, Graham Harrison wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
Chris Read wrote:
The Jubilee platforms at London Bridge are a bit 'journey to the
centre of the earth', and the headways are generally dire, at any time
of day, if the trains are running at all. 12 months of commuting to
Canary Wharf (2007) put me off the Jubilee for life, but maybe things
are better now.



There is always the Northern Line to Moorgate or Kings Cross/St
Pancras, then the Hammersmith and City Line to Paddington.

Either has to be quicker than a taxi from London Bridge to Paddington.

Then there is the LUL/taxi option with the Northern Line to Euston and
a short taxi ride to Paddington ... ;-)


Why go down into the Northern? Thameslink to Moorgate


ITYM Farringdon?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Charles Ellson February 24th 12 09:55 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:27:46 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:



"Chris Read" wrote in message
.. .

If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?

Marginally less than doing it by tube (Jubilee to Baker Street then
Bakerloo).

Is going to Charing Cross an available alternative option ?
(then one Bakerloo train to Paddington with no change)

Peter
(memories of the times I arrived at Paddington on a train due at 1738 and
caught the 1750 from Charing Cross - though it was 1967, the train into
Paddington was often up to 10 minutes early, and after 10 July 1967 almost
all peak trains from Charing Cross had a late start)


Chris Read[_2_] February 24th 12 10:55 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
" wrote:

Seems risky in the extreme. Where does your journey actually commence?
Just wondering whether there is any option of travelling to Reading
(not via London) and picking up your onward connection there at c.
0810?


Starting from Bishopstone on the 05.47, ideally.

I've looked at the Gatwick - Reading hop, which I've done before to
avoid cross-London, but it's not conveniently timed, and not assisted
by being pretty much all stations from Guildford early in the morning
- the standard daytime timetable skips more stops.

Another option is to bale at Gatwick (06.41) onto the GatEx (06.50),
arrive Victoria 07.20. Six minutes later into zone one, and risking a
change - and a Wessie! - but that much nearer to Paddington. Although
GatEx struggles to keep to a 30 minute timing in the peaks, which
unnerves me somewhat.

Still, twenty minutes in a cab should be sufficient for Victoria -
Paddington, especially as I don't mind running from the last set of
traffic lights or wherever. It's a fairly swift jaunt up Park Lane and
Edgware Road, normally. I can pick up my tickets in the +9 connection
at Gatwick ;)

I need to be in Splott, about a mile from Cardiff Central, for 10.30.
The 07.45 gets into Central for 09.48, and the 08.15 for 10.21. The
world wouldn't end if I was ten minutes late - it's not a job
interview - so my thoughts were to aim for the 07.45 (and walk at the
Cardiff end), with the 08.15 (and cab at the Cardiff end) as a back
up. I just have a nagging feeling that if I try this, I'll narrowly
miss the 07.45 (which will run perfectly), whilst the 08.15 will be
cancelled or heavily delayed, as often seems to happen when you're
already cutting it fine.....

There is an alternative, being the 05.11 from Bishopstone, which
(changing at Lewes) hurtles through to Victoria for 06.32.

But I like my under-used bed.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Chris


Graham Nye February 25th 12 12:01 AM

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On 24/02/2012 19:05, Chris Read wrote:

If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?

I will need to pick up my ticket from a machine at Paddington, unless
I can do that in my four minute connection at Lewes.


Can't you buy tickets for the entire journey at your initial station?
Buying a through ticket should also get you your Tube ticket (shows an
extra + on your ticket) so you won't have to buy that separately.
(At an extortionate Ł4 each way - Boris doesn't like non-Oystered
non-Londoners passing through his territory.) You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)

If you can make Lewes 36' earlier you could catch the 05:29 into
London Victoria. That would give you a shorter, single journey on
the Circle line to Paddington, and plenty of time to make it in.

For those favouring the avoid London option note that:
1) the Redhill to Reading service is slow (lots of stops),
2) Sussex trains bypass Redhill, so extra changes are needed to
get there (e.g. Brighton or Gatwick).


--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

Arthur Figgis February 25th 12 08:01 AM

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On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

Can't you buy tickets for the entire journey at your initial station?
Buying a through ticket should also get you your Tube ticket (shows an
extra + on your ticket) so you won't have to buy that separately.
(At an extortionate Ł4 each way - Boris doesn't like non-Oystered
non-Londoners passing through his territory.)


At least you /can/ pass through London, unlike, say, Paris.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Jonathan Morton[_3_] February 25th 12 09:36 AM

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"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
o.uk...

There is always the Northern Line to Moorgate or Kings Cross/St
Pancras, then the Hammersmith and City Line to Paddington.

Either has to be quicker than a taxi from London Bridge to Paddington.

Then there is the LUL/taxi option with the Northern Line to Euston and
a short taxi ride to Paddington ... ;-)


Why go down into the Northern? Thameslink to Moorgate


ITYM Farringdon?


Mornington Crescent!

Regards

Jonathan



Graham Nye February 25th 12 12:30 PM

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On 25/02/2012 09:01, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

Can't you buy tickets for the entire journey at your initial station?
Buying a through ticket should also get you your Tube ticket (shows an
extra + on your ticket) so you won't have to buy that separately.
(At an extortionate Ł4 each way - Boris doesn't like non-Oystered
non-Londoners passing through his territory.)


At least you /can/ pass through London, unlike, say, Paris.



In the sense of your through rail tickets not covering the Métro
connection, presumably? (I haven't tried that combination.)

Still a single Métro ticket is only 1.70 euros (Ł1.46) which is rather
more reasonable than the Boris fine if you don't order through tickets
across London.

(More information on Métro tickets at http://www.seat61.com/Paris-metro.htm ,
to save you all from my witterings.)


--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

[email protected] February 25th 12 06:35 PM

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On Feb 24, 11:55*pm, Chris Read wrote:
Starting from Bishopstone on the 05.47, ideally.


No matter which way you shake it this realistically provides good
connection opportunities for the 0815 ex Paddington rather than the
0745 either at Paddington or at Reading (via Redhill).

--
gordon

Arthur Figgis February 25th 12 07:37 PM

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On 25/02/2012 13:30, Graham Nye wrote:
On 25/02/2012 09:01, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

Can't you buy tickets for the entire journey at your initial station?
Buying a through ticket should also get you your Tube ticket (shows an
extra + on your ticket) so you won't have to buy that separately.
(At an extortionate Ł4 each way - Boris doesn't like non-Oystered
non-Londoners passing through his territory.)


At least you /can/ pass through London, unlike, say, Paris.



In the sense of your through rail tickets not covering the Métro
connection, presumably? (I haven't tried that combination.)


Obviously, because it isn't possible, to the bemusement of countless
Britons told that foreign railways are so much better and more
integrated and customer focused...

Still a single Métro ticket is only 1.70 euros (Ł1.46) which is rather
more reasonable than the Boris fine if you don't order through tickets
across London.


But the Delanoë fine involves playing hunt the ticket machine, followed
by hunt the right sort of machine, followed by hunt the ticket window
when the machine farts in the general direction of your foreign bank
card, long queues, and navigating an atrium designed by Escher. All
while fending off beggars, which aren't supposed to exist abroad because
they didn't have Mrs T to invent poverty.

And Oyster pre-dates Boris. In fact the concept predates Ken...

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Graham Nye February 25th 12 09:01 PM

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On 25/02/2012 20:37, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 25/02/2012 13:30, Graham Nye wrote:

Still a single Métro ticket is only 1.70 euros (Ł1.46) which is rather
more reasonable than the Boris fine if you don't order through tickets
across London.


But the Delanoë fine involves playing hunt the ticket machine,


We found one on the far side of the Gare du Nord, hiding behind
lots of kiosks. However both http://www.seat61.com/Paris-metro.htm
and http://parisbytrain.com/gare-du-nord-photos/ suggest there are
more downstairs, so perhaps we should have headed downstairs
towards the Métro lines before hunting for tickets.

followed by hunt the right sort of machine,


A green one. They even work in English. Spiffing.

followed by hunt the ticket window
when the machine farts in the general direction of your foreign bank
card,


My chip'n'pin card was fine, thanks. There are a number of American
web guides to Paris travel, complaining that foreign cards don't work.
No, just yours.

long queues, and navigating an atrium designed by Escher.


Ooh, it's not as bad as an Ikea. And the staff don't pelt you with
Swedish Meatballs as you desperately search for an exit.

And Oyster pre-dates Boris. In fact the concept predates Ken...


I think the idea of jacking up the cash price to make Londoners
swallow their Oyster cards and hence punish occasional travellers
from outside the home counties is more recent.


--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

[email protected] February 25th 12 10:47 PM

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In article ,
(Graham Nye) wrote:

And Oyster pre-dates Boris. In fact the concept predates Ken...


I think the idea of jacking up the cash price to make Londoners
swallow their Oyster cards and hence punish occasional travellers
from outside the home counties is more recent.


Ken, definitely.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

lonelytraveller February 26th 12 11:42 AM

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On Feb 25, 10:36*am, "Jonathan Morton"
wrote:
"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message

o.uk...



There is always the Northern Line to Moorgate or Kings Cross/St
Pancras, then the Hammersmith and City Line to Paddington.


Either has to be quicker than a taxi from London Bridge to Paddington..


Then there is the LUL/taxi option with the Northern Line to Euston and
a short taxi ride to Paddington ... ;-)


Why go down into the Northern? Thameslink to Moorgate


ITYM Farringdon?


Mornington Crescent!

Regards

Jonathan


Are you sure? Can't you only do that under Trellisian rules?

Paul Rigg[_4_] February 27th 12 10:36 AM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 

I cant see the beginning of this thread for some reason but what's wrong
with carrying on to Charing Cross (or changing at London Bridge into a
Charing Cross train) and then using the Bakerloo (or the Circle from
Embankment) to reach Paddington?



John C February 27th 12 05:45 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 


"Chris Read" wrote in message
...

Another option is to bale at Gatwick (06.41) onto the GatEx (06.50),
arrive Victoria 07.20. Six minutes later into zone one, and risking a
change - and a Wessie! - but that much nearer to Paddington. Although
GatEx struggles to keep to a 30 minute timing in the peaks, which
unnerves me somewhat.

Still, twenty minutes in a cab should be sufficient for Victoria -
Paddington, especially as I don't mind running from the last set of
traffic lights or wherever. It's a fairly swift jaunt up Park Lane and
Edgware Road, normally. I can pick up my tickets in the +9 connection
at Gatwick ;)


On a good day the 36 bus would make it from Victoria to Paddington in the 25
minutes available (I've done it in 15) so a taxi ought to make it.


I need to be in Splott, about a mile from Cardiff Central, for 10.30.
The 07.45 gets into Central for 09.48, and the 08.15 for 10.21. The
world wouldn't end if I was ten minutes late - it's not a job
interview - so my thoughts were to aim for the 07.45 (and walk at the
Cardiff end), with the 08.15 (and cab at the Cardiff end) as a back
up. I just have a nagging feeling that if I try this, I'll narrowly
miss the 07.45 (which will run perfectly), whilst the 08.15 will be
cancelled or heavily delayed, as often seems to happen when you're
already cutting it fine.....


The 0715 is the dodgy one because it gets cancelled if they are short of
sets. The 0815 rarely gets cancelled unless the service has fallen apart.

John


ŽiŠardo February 29th 12 03:34 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:
On 24/02/2012 19:05, Chris Read wrote:

If I arrive at London Bridge (National Rail) at 07.14 next Wednesday,
how would you rate my chances of getting to Paddington, by cab, for
the 07.45 departure to Cardiff?

I will need to pick up my ticket from a machine at Paddington, unless
I can do that in my four minute connection at Lewes.


Can't you buy tickets for the entire journey at your initial station?
Buying a through ticket should also get you your Tube ticket (shows an
extra + on your ticket) so you won't have to buy that separately.
(At an extortionate Ł4 each way - Boris doesn't like non-Oystered
non-Londoners passing through his territory.) You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)



Are you? I've just ordered some tickets on-line and the blurb says:
"Tickets will be available to collect from a self-service ticket machine
at one of 900 UK stations 2 hours after booking."

Certainly in the past, when following a spate of vandalism to the ticket
machines at my then local station it disappeared from the list for
collecting from when booking on-line, I just quoted the next station
down the line and then, having booked the tickets collected them from my
then - no longer shown - home station.


If you can make Lewes 36' earlier you could catch the 05:29 into
London Victoria. That would give you a shorter, single journey on
the Circle line to Paddington, and plenty of time to make it in.

For those favouring the avoid London option note that:
1) the Redhill to Reading service is slow (lots of stops),
2) Sussex trains bypass Redhill, so extra changes are needed to
get there (e.g. Brighton or Gatwick).




--
Moving things in still pictures

Paul Scott[_3_] February 29th 12 03:58 PM

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"ŽiŠardo" wrote in message
...

Are you? I've just ordered some tickets on-line and the blurb says:
"Tickets will be available to collect from a self-service ticket machine
at one of 900 UK stations 2 hours after booking."

Certainly in the past, when following a spate of vandalism to the ticket
machines at my then local station it disappeared from the list for
collecting from when booking on-line, I just quoted the next station down
the line and then, having booked the tickets collected them from my then -
no longer shown - home station.


That's right, you can collect from anywhere with a TVM. [1] The purpose of
the selection is solely to make sure you don't make plans to pick up at a
station without one.

[1] Apparently some SN offers must be picked up from their own TVMs.

Paul S


Mizter T February 29th 12 04:11 PM

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On 29/02/2012 16:58, Paul Scott wrote:

"ŽiŠardo" wrote:
[snip]
Are you? I've just ordered some tickets on-line and the blurb says:
"Tickets will be available to collect from a self-service ticket
machine at one of 900 UK stations 2 hours after booking."

Certainly in the past, when following a spate of vandalism to the
ticket machines at my then local station it disappeared from the list
for collecting from when booking on-line, I just quoted the next
station down the line and then, having booked the tickets collected
them from my then - no longer shown - home station.


That's right, you can collect from anywhere with a TVM. [1] The purpose
of the selection is solely to make sure you don't make plans to pick up
at a station without one.


Indeed.

From the Trainline's FAQ:
http://help.thetrainline.com/app/ans...ail/a_id/1437/

---quote---
Which stations offer self-service ticket collection?

You don't need to pick up your tickets from the station you selected
when making a booking - You can collect from an enabled machine at any
one of the 1000 stations in the list below.
[...]
---/quote---

It's the same for all the other ticket sites, because this is how the
underlying ticket collection system (somewhat misleadingly named "Ticket
On Departure") works.


[1] Apparently some SN offers must be picked up from their own TVMs.


Though I do remember reading somewhere that despite this supposed
restriction, people had been able to pick up such tickets at non
Southern TVMs (though I wouldn't want to count on it).

[email protected] February 29th 12 06:12 PM

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In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 29/02/2012 16:58, Paul Scott wrote:

"ŽiŠardo" wrote:
[snip]
Are you? I've just ordered some tickets on-line and the blurb says:
"Tickets will be available to collect from a self-service ticket
machine at one of 900 UK stations 2 hours after booking."

Certainly in the past, when following a spate of vandalism to the
ticket machines at my then local station it disappeared from the list
for collecting from when booking on-line, I just quoted the next
station down the line and then, having booked the tickets collected
them from my then - no longer shown - home station.


That's right, you can collect from anywhere with a TVM. [1] The purpose
of the selection is solely to make sure you don't make plans to pick up
at a station without one.


Indeed.

From the Trainline's FAQ:
http://help.thetrainline.com/app/ans...ail/a_id/1437/

---quote---
Which stations offer self-service ticket collection?

You don't need to pick up your tickets from the station you selected
when making a booking - You can collect from an enabled machine at
any one of the 1000 stations in the list below.
[...]
---/quote---

It's the same for all the other ticket sites, because this is how the
underlying ticket collection system (somewhat misleadingly named
"Ticket On Departure") works.

[1] Apparently some SN offers must be picked up from their own TVMs.


Though I do remember reading somewhere that despite this supposed
restriction, people had been able to pick up such tickets at non
Southern TVMs (though I wouldn't want to count on it).


I could believe SN imposing the restriction because other TOCs would charge
them. That's why Cross Country (with no TVMs) charge for TOD.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Graham Nye February 29th 12 08:44 PM

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On 29/02/2012 16:34, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)


Are you?


Well, having read the other replies, apparently not.

The XC website I use, after asking which station you wish to
collect your ticket from, says:

"Collect your ticket(s) from the ticket machine at [nominated station]."

Then gives the same message on the confirmation screen. There's no
suggestion that you can use other (connected) ticket machines.
But thanks for the tip.


--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

[email protected] February 29th 12 11:11 PM

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In article ,
(Graham Nye) wrote:

On 29/02/2012 16:34, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)


Are you?


Well, having read the other replies, apparently not.

The XC website I use, after asking which station you wish to
collect your ticket from, says:

"Collect your ticket(s) from the ticket machine at [nominated
station]."

Then gives the same message on the confirmation screen. There's no
suggestion that you can use other (connected) ticket machines.
But thanks for the tip.


XC is an exception because they have no stations of their own. What are they
charging you for TOD?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

ŽiŠardo March 1st 12 08:22 AM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
On 29/02/2012 21:44, Graham Nye wrote:
On 29/02/2012 16:34, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)


Are you?


Well, having read the other replies, apparently not.

The XC website I use, after asking which station you wish to
collect your ticket from, says:

"Collect your ticket(s) from the ticket machine at [nominated station]."

Then gives the same message on the confirmation screen. There's no
suggestion that you can use other (connected) ticket machines.
But thanks for the tip.



My message on ticket collection was on my First Great Western
confirmation. However, 2 -3 years ago I was collecting from other than
the station that I had nominated for that purpose.

--
Moving things in still pictures

Roland Perry March 1st 12 08:36 AM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
In message , at 18:11:46
on Wed, 29 Feb 2012, remarked:
XC is an exception because they have no stations of their own.


Which results in anomalies like Burton on Trent, where every passenger
train is operated by XC, but the station by EMT. There used to be one
EMT train a day (via Derby to London) but that seems to have been
withdrawn). Stamford, on the other hand, still has three EMT trains a
day, but all the rest are XC.
--
Roland Perry

Graham Nye March 1st 12 05:48 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
On 01/03/2012 09:22, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 29/02/2012 21:44, Graham Nye wrote:
On 29/02/2012 16:34, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)

Are you?


Well, having read the other replies, apparently not.

The XC website I use, after asking which station you wish to
collect your ticket from, says:

"Collect your ticket(s) from the ticket machine at [nominated station]."

Then gives the same message on the confirmation screen. There's no
suggestion that you can use other (connected) ticket machines.
But thanks for the tip.


My message on ticket collection was on my First Great Western
confirmation. However, 2 -3 years ago I was collecting from other than
the station that I had nominated for that purpose.



Yesterday I pre-ordered a ticket for next week for collection from my
home station and today I was able to pick it up from my destination
station. So the system is indeed more flexible that the website
message implies.


--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

Graham Nye March 1st 12 05:50 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
On 01/03/2012 18:48, Graham Nye wrote:

So the system is indeed more flexible that the website
message implies.


D'oh. s/that/than/

--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

Peter Smyth March 1st 12 06:44 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
wrote in message ...

In article ,
(Graham Nye) wrote:

On 29/02/2012 16:34, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also order
them on-line, although you are then committed to which station you
have to collect them from.)

Are you?


Well, having read the other replies, apparently not.

The XC website I use, after asking which station you wish to
collect your ticket from, says:

"Collect your ticket(s) from the ticket machine at [nominated
station]."

Then gives the same message on the confirmation screen. There's no
suggestion that you can use other (connected) ticket machines.
But thanks for the tip.


XC is an exception because they have no stations of their own. What are
they
charging you for TOD?


XC only charge for TOD collection when there is a print at home alternative
available (which is free). Essentially that is for advance tickets that are
only valid on XC services. For any open tickets or tickets valid on more
than one TOC, you can still use TOD for free.

Peter Smyth


[email protected] March 1st 12 11:27 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

wrote in message ...

In article ,

(Graham Nye) wrote:

On 29/02/2012 16:34, ŽiŠardo wrote:
On 25/02/2012 01:01, Graham Nye wrote:

You could pick your
tickets up in advance to save hassle on the day. (You could also
order them on-line, although you are then committed to which station
you have to collect them from.)

Are you?

Well, having read the other replies, apparently not.

The XC website I use, after asking which station you wish to
collect your ticket from, says:

"Collect your ticket(s) from the ticket machine at [nominated
station]."

Then gives the same message on the confirmation screen. There's no
suggestion that you can use other (connected) ticket machines.
But thanks for the tip.


XC is an exception because they have no stations of their own. What are
they charging you for TOD?


XC only charge for TOD collection when there is a print at home
alternative available (which is free). Essentially that is for
advance tickets that are only valid on XC services. For any open
tickets or tickets valid on more than one TOC, you can still use TOD
for free.


Ah! I'd not spotted that.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Jarle H Knudsen March 2nd 12 12:21 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:44:47 -0000, Peter Smyth wrote:

XC only charge for TOD collection when there is a print at home alternative
available (which is free). Essentially that is for advance tickets that are
only valid on XC services. For any open tickets or tickets valid on more
than one TOC, you can still use TOD for free.


Can print at home tickets be used at stations with gatelines?

--
jhk

Roland Perry March 2nd 12 01:36 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
In message , at 14:21:06 on
Fri, 2 Mar 2012, Jarle H Knudsen remarked:
XC only charge for TOD collection when there is a print at home alternative
available (which is free). Essentially that is for advance tickets that are
only valid on XC services. For any open tickets or tickets valid on more
than one TOC, you can still use TOD for free.


Can print at home tickets be used at stations with gatelines?


On National Rail: Yes, by showing them to the person manning the
gateline.

On Eurostar: Yes, they work the gates too.
--
Roland Perry

Paul G March 2nd 12 11:05 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
In message , Graham Nye
writes
On 01/03/2012 09:22, ŽiŠardo wrote:
My message on ticket collection was on my First Great Western
confirmation. However, 2 -3 years ago I was collecting from other than
the station that I had nominated for that purpose.



Yesterday I pre-ordered a ticket for next week for collection from my
home station and today I was able to pick it up from my destination
station. So the system is indeed more flexible that the website
message implies.


It also used to be that you could use any credit card to activate the
ticket machine and then enter a reference number to collect your
tickets.

I used the Virgin ticket machines at Euston last Saturday and they
needed the specific credit card that I had booked with (which is a bit
inconvenient as I use a different credit for online bookings and don't
always carry it) and were extremely slow (from when the card was put in
it took upwards of a minute to bring up the ticket details on the
screen). On the other hand I didn't need to tap in a reference number.


--
Paul G
Typing from Kentish Town

[email protected] March 3rd 12 12:19 AM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
In article ,
(Paul G) wrote:

In message , Graham Nye
writes
On 01/03/2012 09:22, ŽiŠardo wrote:
My message on ticket collection was on my First Great Western
confirmation. However, 2 -3 years ago I was collecting from other than
the station that I had nominated for that purpose.


Yesterday I pre-ordered a ticket for next week for collection from my
home station and today I was able to pick it up from my destination
station. So the system is indeed more flexible that the website
message implies.

It also used to be that you could use any credit card to activate the
ticket machine and then enter a reference number to collect your
tickets.

I used the Virgin ticket machines at Euston last Saturday and they
needed the specific credit card that I had booked with (which is a
bit inconvenient as I use a different credit for online bookings and
don't always carry it) and were extremely slow (from when the card
was put in it took upwards of a minute to bring up the ticket details
on the screen). On the other hand I didn't need to tap in a
reference number.


My problem with the 3 Shere machines and may last credit card is that they
were perfectly happy to take money using the card but not to acknowledge it
for TOD. I mostly used the Scheidt & Bachmann machine which wasn't so fussy
and happy to give me my tickets but once it was out of order and I had to go
to a ticket window. That was how I found out I could get my tickets there.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Phil[_6_] March 4th 12 06:31 PM

London Bridge - Paddington by cab
 
Paul G writes:

In message , Graham Nye
writes
On 01/03/2012 09:22, ŽiŠardo wrote:
My message on ticket collection was on my First Great Western
confirmation. However, 2 -3 years ago I was collecting from other than
the station that I had nominated for that purpose.



Yesterday I pre-ordered a ticket for next week for collection from my
home station and today I was able to pick it up from my destination
station. So the system is indeed more flexible that the website
message implies.


It also used to be that you could use any credit card to activate the
ticket machine and then enter a reference number to collect your
tickets.

I used the Virgin ticket machines at Euston last Saturday and they
needed the specific credit card that I had booked with (which is a bit
inconvenient as I use a different credit for online bookings and don't
always carry it) and were extremely slow (from when the card was put
in it took upwards of a minute to bring up the ticket details on the
screen). On the other hand I didn't need to tap in a reference
number.

Have always wondered why they can't identify the booking from the card,
and save all the pain of entering a booking number. Often have 2 or 3
booking numbers as its usually cheaper to buy separate tickets for parts
of the journey than through tickets. Like they use to do at the cinema.

However, last time I went to the cinema, they needed the booking number.
Apparantly it was in case the card had been stolen after I had made the
online booking.

Was struggling to understand:
How someone who had stolen my card would know I had used it to buy at
cinema, ticket and even then which cinema I had made the booking at.

And if my card had been stolen, the last thing on my mind would be a
couple of 10 quid cinema seats.

Phil


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