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On 26/02/2012 21:44, Recliner wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:24:35 +0000, "
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It was always my impression that the S8s would have different seating
arrangements from the S7s, to reflect the areas that they serve.

They do. The S7s will have even fewer seats per car, all arranged
longitudinally (like a 378). That's the way you'll be able to spot a
seven-car S8 train, as may be deployed on other SSLs before the true
S7s come off the production line.

Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from
S8s?

Car numbers?

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:20:31 +0000, "
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On 26/02/2012 21:44, Recliner wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:24:35 +0000, "
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On 26/02/2012 13:26, Bruce wrote:
Charles wrote:

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" wrote:
The doorway designs on the S-8s are such that it is difficult to stand
next to them the way one would on an A-stock train.

When is D-Day for the A-stocks, BTW?

And, as I understand: Gone are the high backed seats,


Gone are a lot of seats.


I can't really see the point of this for the Metropolitan. The
Circle/Hammersmith and City, yes. The District, perhaps. But these
trains appear completely unsuited to Amersham and Chesham services
because of their comparative lack of seating and its comparative lack
of comfort. How anyone could select such trains for the Metropolitan
simply beggars belief.

Coupled with the eye-watering increase in the price of Travelcards
from Amersham, the increasing provision of S Stock has caused me to
rethink my modes of travel to and from London.

If I am going somewhere that involves entering the Congestion Charge
zone, I use Chiltern from Aylesbury or Stoke Mandeville or London
Midland from Tring. If I am going somewhere that doesn't, I drive.

So far this year, I haven't used the train at all.


It was always my impression that the S8s would have different seating
arrangements from the S7s, to reflect the areas that they serve.

They do. The S7s will have even fewer seats per car, all arranged
longitudinally (like a 378). That's the way you'll be able to spot a
seven-car S8 train, as may be deployed on other SSLs before the true
S7s come off the production line.

Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from S8s?

Apart from e.g. any line-identifying stickers and paintwork, none
AFAIAA.

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Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from S8s?

Yes - one less car.

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Mike Bristow

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:45:01 +0000, Mike Bristow
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In article ,
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Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from S8s?

Yes - one less car.

So how would you distinguish between a seven-car S8 and an S7?
Obviously it's easy if you can see the seats, but otherwise?

On 27/02/2012 13:02, Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:45:01 +0000, Mike
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In ,
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Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from S8s?

Yes - one less car.

So how would you distinguish between a seven-car S8 and an S7?
Obviously it's easy if you can see the seats, but otherwise?

Um, count the cars?

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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:58:36 +0000, Arthur Figgis
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On 27/02/2012 13:02, Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:45:01 +0000, Mike
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In ,
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Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from S8s?

Yes - one less car.

So how would you distinguish between a seven-car S8 and an S7?
Obviously it's easy if you can see the seats, but otherwise?

Um, count the cars?

I suspect you didn't read what I said...

In article ,
lid (Arthur Figgis) wrote:

On 27/02/2012 13:02, Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:45:01 +0000, Mike wrote:

In ,
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Will S7s have any even slightly distinguishing exterior features from
S8s?

Yes - one less car.

So how would you distinguish between a seven-car S8 and an S7?
Obviously it's easy if you can see the seats, but otherwise?

Um, count the cars?

No. 7 in both cases posited. The car numbers should give a clue, however.

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Colin Rosenstiel