On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:16:35 -0000, Steve Terry wrote:

Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the coffee
shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use completely free
until the big networks frightened them with stories of abuse
and sold them their secure systems.

I haven't seen an open wifi in months, all WPA now

Wetherspoon still has free wi-fi. At least until 27th November 2019.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/...ons/free-wi-fi

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jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:16:35 -0000, Steve Terry wrote:

Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the
coffee shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use
completely free until the big networks frightened them with stories
of abuse
and sold them their secure systems.

I haven't seen an open wifi in months, all WPA now

Wetherspoon still has free wi-fi. At least until 27th November 2019.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/...ons/free-wi-fi

Like most of Skys "The Cloud" outlets, it's only free for the first hour
then you have to pay, and of course you have to sign up and sign in
for the service.

That way they can say they are providing "free" Wifi

Steve Terry
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On 16/03/2012 18:42, Steve Terry wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In , at 18:27:42 on Wed, 14 Mar
2012, Mizter remarked:
Virgin Media's mobile and broadband customers will be offered
continued access as part of their subscriptions.

I can't see anything on the VM site regarding "free/bundled" wifi
for their mobile customers. Presumably this is some new addition to
their plans they'll be announcing soon. Some other networks already
have.
Sky will soon be offering free The Cloud" access to Sky BB customers
to rivel BTs Openzone for BT BB customers.

So it figures Virgin will have to offer their Wifi zones to their
Virgin BB customers. If they don't they'll loose out to the other two
Steve Terry

I thought O2 customers also had access to free wi-fi service on "The
Cloud".

Not no mo
http://www.geekonthepc.com/2011/12/0...february-2012/

Obviously Sky bought out The Cloud so as be a rival to BT Openzone

Steve Terry
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:49:57 -0000, Steve Terry wrote:

Like most of Skys "The Cloud" outlets, it's only free for the first hour
then you have to pay, and of course you have to sign up and sign in
for the service.

I last used wi-fi in a Wetherspoon in the summer of 2010. It wasn't limited
to an hour back then.

The last couple of times I have been to London I have used Three's £15 one
month all-you-can-eat data offer.

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jhk

In article , (Steve Terry)
wrote:

Theo Markettos wrote:
In uk.transport.london Steve Terry wrote:
Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the
coffee shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use
completely free until the big networks frightened them with stories
of abuse and sold them their secure systems.

Yup, and it's fragmented such that you need three subscriptions not
one. And PAYG is silly because it's often 5 pounds an hour, while
with 3G I can get 5 pounds a month or 50p/day. And no faffing about
with signups, registering, etc, it just works.

Wifi is just a waste of time when travelling IME, 3G is far more
useful. But sadly, due to hardware manufacturers having a US view of
the world (wifi networks that actually work, poor 3G coverage and
broken mobile tariffs), it isn't common fit on laptops and many tablets.

3G is no use on the tube, of course. But I'm not convinced that people
are going to pay a wifi-scale fee (5 pounds an hour, 10-15 pounds a
month) for the 5 minutes a day they spend lurking on a station platform.

I've got my Three Skype S2 HSDPA phone for use on the laptop
when out and about, but as a Sky BB user i'm looking forward to
free "The Cloud WiFi" as my local Wetherspoon pub and McD's
are The Cloud Wifi enabled.

Doesn't Wetherspoon's offer free wifi anyway? I'm sure they used to.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In article , (Steve Terry)
wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:16:35 -0000, Steve Terry wrote:

Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the coffee
shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use completely free
until the big networks frightened them with stories of abuse and sold
them their secure systems.

I haven't seen an open wifi in months, all WPA now

Wetherspoon still has free wi-fi. At least until 27th November 2019.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/...ons/free-wi-fi

Like most of Skys "The Cloud" outlets, it's only free for the first hour
then you have to pay, and of course you have to sign up and sign in
for the service.

That way they can say they are providing "free" Wifi

Nothing on their web site about a 1 hour limit.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Steve Terry wrote

Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the
coffee
shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use completely
free
until the big networks frightened them with stories of abuse
and sold them their secure systems.

I haven't seen an open wifi in months, all WPA now

Free but you have to register (took 4 minutes on my Kindle Keyboard)
from Cloud (Caffe Nero) same for John Lewis I understand.

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Mike D

In message , at 18:30:32
on Fri, 16 Mar 2012, remarked:
Wetherspoon still has free wi-fi. At least until 27th November 2019.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/...ons/free-wi-fi

Like most of Skys "The Cloud" outlets, it's only free for the first hour
then you have to pay, and of course you have to sign up and sign in
for the service.

That way they can say they are providing "free" Wifi

Nothing on their web site about a 1 hour limit.

Something to try out, perhaps. After all it's free.

I wonder if you have to re-sign-in after an hour; I've come across
hotspots like that.
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Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:


In message , at
18:30:32 on Fri, 16 Mar 2012, remarked:
Wetherspoon still has free wi-fi. At least until 27th November 2019.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/...ons/free-wi-fi

Like most of Skys "The Cloud" outlets, it's only free for the first
hour then you have to pay, and of course you have to sign up and sign
in for the service.

That way they can say they are providing "free" Wifi

Nothing on their web site about a 1 hour limit.

Something to try out, perhaps. After all it's free.

I wonder if you have to re-sign-in after an hour; I've come across
hotspots like that.

Not my experience in Wetherspoon's but I'm not sure I used the wi-fi for
over an hour when I used it.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 15/03/12 18:50, wrote:
In ,
(Chris Blunt) wrote:

A pity they seem to have ruled out connectivity within the
tunnels/trains themselves. Subway systems in other parts of the world
have been able to achieve this, apparently without too much
difficulty.

Subway systems in the rest of the world don't operate in 12ft diameter tube
tunnels.

Surely a leaky feeder cable doesn't care about the diameter, or depth,
of the tunnel?

Anyway, I'm not impressed. I've already paid for mobile data and don't
see a need to pay for it again (in fact I pay Virgin Media for my TV but
don't have their broadband so don't expect to get anything free there).

The amount of data I have at the price makes WiFi almost irrelevant, and
I often have to turn it off anyway given the number of apparently duff
FON hotspots. Why can't we have 3G or better in the stations instead?

I'm still surprised that the HS1 tunnels (or even the Channel Tunnel)
don't have mobile coverage. Does GSM-R make it easier, more troublesome
or have no effect on the ability to provide coverage?

Richard.