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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17807502

London 2012: TfL details Games rail and Tube hotspots Posters warning
people about busy roads and trains during the Games have been put up.

Olympics organisers have published details of the Tube and rail
"hotspots" that those who live, work and travel in London should avoid
during the Games.

The information provides a "final picture" on which stations will be
most affected from 27 July, they said.

Bank, Earl's Court and London Bridge stations will be "exceptionally
busy".

The TfL website is useless since it isn't specific enough.

http://www.getaheadofthegames.com/tr...transport.html
http://www.getaheadofthegames.com/tr...onal-rail.html

Hotspots missing - and they're hotspots anyway - are

* the Picadilly Line to/from Heathrow and Central London

* HConn / HEX between Heathrow and Paddington

* FGW locals between Reading and Paddington

* grossly over-congested platform 12 at Paddington

These are over-crowded anyway - and will be even worse during the
Olympics.

London 2012: TfL details Games rail and Tube hotspots
 

On 23/04/2012 09:37, CJB wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17807502

London 2012: TfL details Games rail and Tube hotspots Posters warning
people about busy roads and trains during the Games have been put up.

Olympics organisers have published details of the Tube and rail
"hotspots" that those who live, work and travel in London should avoid
during the Games.

The information provides a "final picture" on which stations will be
most affected from 27 July, they said.

Bank, Earl's Court and London Bridge stations will be "exceptionally
busy".

The TfL website is useless since it isn't specific enough.

Indeed - and looking at Shadwell and living around the corner from it,
I'm thoroughly confused about what's happening given there's two
stations and they don't specifically mention which one is which.

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In message
, at
01:37:56 on Mon, 23 Apr 2012, CJB remarked:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17807502

London 2012: TfL details Games rail and Tube hotspots Posters warning
people about busy roads and trains during the Games have been put up.

Olympics organisers have published details of the Tube and rail
"hotspots" that those who live, work and travel in London should avoid
during the Games.

The information provides a "final picture" on which stations will be
most affected from 27 July, they said.

Bank, Earl's Court and London Bridge stations will be "exceptionally
busy".

The TfL website is useless since it isn't specific enough.

Perhaps they have some updated versions of the detailed "heat tables"
published some time ago? eg:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...uing-times.pdf
--
Roland Perry

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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:14:28 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:

The transport network starts from a position of being *less* busy
because the Games coincide with Summer holidays when demand always
falls. There may be some extra demand on services in to Paddington but
it is not going to the vision of "hell on earth" you obviously want it
to be.

This is true of the Olympics, but won't the Paralympics occur after
the holidays are over, and when most Londoners are back at work? Many
people who failed to get Olympics tickets have instead opted for the
Paralympics which have the added bonus of a higher chance of seeing a
Brit win. And perhaps there will also be more disabled spectators who
will tax the limited lift facilities at even the relatively few
step-free stations.

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Paul Corfield wrote:

Actually there is no great concern about Heathrow to London services
other than on the last day of the Olympics when there is a mass
departure. Arrivals are staggered over a much longer period and won't
overload the services. This is based on informed discussions I had
several months ago with a range of people who know what is planned.

Furthermore, it's not like the airlines are putting on extra flights to handle
extra passengers, even if slots were available - and there aren't. Given that
the flights are mostly full already and there aren't larger planes sitting
around waiting to be substituted in, I doubt it's even going to be noticable.

London 2012: TfL details Games rail and Tube hotspots
 

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:59:29 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

Actually there is no great concern about Heathrow to London services
other than on the last day of the Olympics when there is a mass
departure. Arrivals are staggered over a much longer period and won't
overload the services. This is based on informed discussions I had
several months ago with a range of people who know what is planned.

Furthermore, it's not like the airlines are putting on extra flights to handle
extra passengers, even if slots were available - and there aren't. Given that
the flights are mostly full already and there aren't larger planes sitting
around waiting to be substituted in, I doubt it's even going to be noticable.

That's largely true of Heathrow (at least at peak times), but extra
Olympic charters may come into other London airports which do have
some spare capacity. Even at Heathrow, foreign airlines may choose to
put on larger planes than normal on their scheduled flights but as you
say, the British carriers don't have much flexibility.

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On 23/04/2012 13:59, Robert Neville wrote:
Paul wrote:

Actually there is no great concern about Heathrow to London services
other than on the last day of the Olympics when there is a mass
departure. Arrivals are staggered over a much longer period and won't
overload the services. This is based on informed discussions I had
several months ago with a range of people who know what is planned.

Furthermore, it's not like the airlines are putting on extra flights to handle
extra passengers, even if slots were available - and there aren't. Given that
the flights are mostly full already and there aren't larger planes sitting
around waiting to be substituted in, I doubt it's even going to be noticable.

The main difference will be that a greater proportion than usual will
not be transit passengers but using LHR as their final destination.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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In message , at 06:59:29 on
Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Robert Neville remarked:
Actually there is no great concern about Heathrow to London services
other than on the last day of the Olympics when there is a mass
departure. Arrivals are staggered over a much longer period and won't
overload the services. This is based on informed discussions I had
several months ago with a range of people who know what is planned.

Furthermore, it's not like the airlines are putting on extra flights to handle
extra passengers, even if slots were available - and there aren't. Given that
the flights are mostly full already and there aren't larger planes sitting
around waiting to be substituted in, I doubt it's even going to be noticable.

Actually, the major airlines can and do swap aircraft when there's a
"special event" going on. I've been on a 757 when normally there would
have been a 737, for example.

You can't do this unless you have a mixed fleet, of course.

I haven't looked, but are the Easyjet's and Ryanairs adding extra
services to Luton/Stansted (where there are plenty of free slots)
diverting them away from other intra-Europe flights, or is it too short
a period for them to be worried about?
--
Roland Perry

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I haven't looked, but are the Easyjet's and Ryanairs adding extra
services to Luton/Stansted (where there are plenty of free slots)
diverting them away from other intra-Europe flights, or is it too short
a period for them to be worried about?


Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

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In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:59:29 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

Actually there is no great concern about Heathrow to London services
other than on the last day of the Olympics when there is a mass
departure. Arrivals are staggered over a much longer period and won't
overload the services. This is based on informed discussions I had
several months ago with a range of people who know what is planned.

Furthermore, it's not like the airlines are putting on extra flights to
handle extra passengers, even if slots were available - and there aren't.
Given that the flights are mostly full already and there aren't larger
planes sitting around waiting to be substituted in, I doubt it's even
going to be noticable.

That's largely true of Heathrow (at least at peak times), but extra
Olympic charters may come into other London airports which do have
some spare capacity. Even at Heathrow, foreign airlines may choose to
put on larger planes than normal on their scheduled flights but as you
say, the British carriers don't have much flexibility.

Cambridge is expecting quite a few Olympic flights.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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allantracy wrote:
I haven't looked, but are the Easyjet's and Ryanairs adding extra
services to Luton/Stansted (where there are plenty of free slots)
diverting them away from other intra-Europe flights, or is it too short
a period for them to be worried about?


Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.


And London Oxford Airport too, at Kidlington:
http://tinyurl.com/n7vcn3
or:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/6042311/Oxford-Airport-rebranded-as-London-Oxford-Airport.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Oxford_Airport

It is "only" 100 km from London. ;-)

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On 23/04/12 11:14, Paul Corfield wrote:
The transport network starts from a position of being*less* busy
because the Games coincide with Summer holidays when demand always
falls.

Visitor numbers to London, before, during and after the Olympics, re
expected to be much lower than in normal summer.

Ian

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On 23/04/12 11:40, Recliner wrote:
This is true of the Olympics, but won't the Paralympics occur after
the holidays are over, and when most Londoners are back at work?

Yeah, but who wants to watch well meaning occupational therapy? Families
and friends, of course, but that's surely about it.

Ian

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In message , at 09:40:16 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, The Real Doctor remarked:
The transport network starts from a position of being*less* busy
because the Games coincide with Summer holidays when demand always
falls.

Visitor numbers to London, before, during and after the Olympics, re
expected to be much lower than in normal summer.

It seems they are, but what's different about the Olympics is that the
travel in concentrated to a few places at a few times. It's got all the
potential of being like Cup Final Day in five places at once, seven days
a week.

And other parts of the network (and streets) will be quieter than
normal.
--
Roland Perry

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On 24/04/12 09:56, Roland Perry wrote:
It seems they are, but what's different about the Olympics is that the
travel in concentrated to a few places at a few times. It's got all the
potential of being like Cup Final Day in five places at once, seven days
a week.

As a matter of idle curiosity, how does Olympic ticketing work for
really short events. If, for example, one has a ticket for the men's
100m final, is one ushered in to one's seat just before the gun and then
shown out again ten seconds later? Or do tickets cover particular
periods of occupancy including certain events?

The published hotspot information could be particularly useful to those
of evil intent.

Ian

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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:38:10 -0700 (PDT), allantracy
wrote:


I haven't looked, but are the Easyjet's and Ryanairs adding extra
services to Luton/Stansted (where there are plenty of free slots)
diverting them away from other intra-Europe flights, or is it too short
a period for them to be worried about?


Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

.... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

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In message , at 11:05:02 on
Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Recliner remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 11:03:12 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, The Real Doctor remarked:
As a matter of idle curiosity, how does Olympic ticketing work for
really short events. If, for example, one has a ticket for the men's
100m final, is one ushered in to one's seat just before the gun and
then shown out again ten seconds later? Or do tickets cover particular
periods of occupancy including certain events?

They cover a "morning", "afternoon" or "evening" of a sport, where
"Athletics" is a sport, not "100yds sprint".

Some of the sessions aren't very long though - several of the
cycling/velodrome ones are only 90 minutes for example.

No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

For someone camped out near the start of the Marathon or road cycling,
it's not going to be visible for very long, but on the other hand maybe
they don't need a ticket. I wonder how they are doing crowd control for
street events?
--
Roland Perry

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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:59:24 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Some of the sessions aren't very long though - several of the
cycling/velodrome ones are only 90 minutes for example.

No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.

B2003

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In message , at 11:27:45 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, d remarked:
Some of the sessions aren't very long though - several of the
cycling/velodrome ones are only 90 minutes for example.

No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.

Shortest session.

pedant
The long jump is only 9 metres.
/pedant
--
Roland Perry

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In message , The Real Doctor
writes

On 23/04/12 11:40, Recliner wrote:
This is true of the Olympics, but won't the Paralympics occur after
the holidays are over, and when most Londoners are back at work?

Yeah, but who wants to watch well meaning occupational therapy?
Families and friends, of course, but that's surely about it.

They must have one helluva lot of family and friends to have sold over a
million Paralympics tickets before the start of this year. A number of
Paralympics events are now totally sold out.
--
Paul Terry

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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:38:30 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

pedant
The long jump is only 9 metres.
/pedant

You beat me to it! I was looking up the world record on Wikipedia, which
stands at 8.95 m for men (1991) and 7.52 m for women (1988).

--
jhk

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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:38:30 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:27:45 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, d remarked:
Some of the sessions aren't very long though - several of the
cycling/velodrome ones are only 90 minutes for example.

No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.

Shortest session.

pedant
The long jump is only 9 metres.
/pedant

Fair enough, I thought you meant time wise. How long does a long jump take?
Its probably similar to the sprints so might win on that too.

Its only 9m though if you don't count the run up.

B2003

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In message , at 11:49:52 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, d remarked:
Some of the sessions aren't very long though - several of the
cycling/velodrome ones are only 90 minutes for example.

No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.

Shortest session.

pedant
The long jump is only 9 metres.
/pedant

Fair enough, I thought you meant time wise.

It's moot, because I meant "shortest ticketed session", not the shortest
event within such a session.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , Roland Perry
writes

For someone camped out near the start of the Marathon or road cycling,
it's not going to be visible for very long, but on the other hand maybe
they don't need a ticket. I wonder how they are doing crowd control for
street events?

Lots of volunteers for the road cycling, backed-up by police, if the
trial run was an accurate guide (I live only a few hundred yards from
the route).

It's true that you don't see individual competitors for long, but by the
return leg the field was spread out enough to take some 10 minutes or so
to pass. The event is free, except for a few select places (such as Box
Hill) where tickets are required.

Although not particularly keen on bike racing, I have to say that just
the blast of air from 20 or so top cyclists flying past in close
formation and at top speed is quite something.
--
Paul Terry

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On 24/04/2012 12:27, d wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:59:24 +0100
Roland wrote:
Some of the sessions aren't very long though - several of the
cycling/velodrome ones are only 90 minutes for example.

No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.



High Jump run-up is even shorter

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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On 24/04/2012 11:40, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:05:02 on
Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Recliner remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.

More frequent train service from Southend I think.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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In message , at 15:31:06 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.

More frequent train service from Southend I think.

Curiously, the East Coast planner has not been updated to include
Southend Airport station.

Reverting to NRES, it seems to have 3tph at 44 minutes to Stratford.

Stansted has 2ph at 53 min, which is worse, but not excessively so.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 15:28:48 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.

High Jump run-up is even shorter

How far is a weightlifter allowed to move/stagger before being
disqualified?
--
Roland Perry

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On 24/04/2012 16:31, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:31:06 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.

More frequent train service from Southend I think.

Curiously, the East Coast planner has not been updated to include
Southend Airport station.

Reverting to NRES, it seems to have 3tph at 44 minutes to Stratford.

Stansted has 2ph at 53 min, which is worse, but not excessively so.

IIRC the Stansted trains are 8 car. What are the Southend line trains
these days?

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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On 24/04/2012 16:34, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:28:48 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
No doubt somewhere is a website that says what the "shortest event" is.

60m if the olympics has is, otherwise 100m.

High Jump run-up is even shorter

How far is a weightlifter allowed to move/stagger before being
disqualified?

Darts isn't an Olympic sport is it?

The devil in me says the Australian sport of dwarf-throwing should be a
contender for the shortest event...

I'll get my pickaxe.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:38:10 -0700 (PDT), allantracy
wrote:

I haven't looked, but are the Easyjet's and Ryanairs adding extra
services to Luton/Stansted (where there are plenty of free slots)
diverting them away from other intra-Europe flights, or is it too short
a period for them to be worried about?

Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

Marshall's like to think Cambridge will be good for Stratford too.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:50:56 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:38:10 -0700 (PDT), allantracy
wrote:

I haven't looked, but are the Easyjet's and Ryanairs adding extra
services to Luton/Stansted (where there are plenty of free slots)
diverting them away from other intra-Europe flights, or is it too short
a period for them to be worried about?

Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

Marshall's like to think Cambridge will be good for Stratford too.

But further away and less good train service(?). Both, however, should
be small, uncrowded airports, unlike Heathrow, etc.

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In message , at 16:41:29 on Tue, 24
Apr 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.

More frequent train service from Southend I think.

Curiously, the East Coast planner has not been updated to include
Southend Airport station.

Reverting to NRES, it seems to have 3tph at 44 minutes to Stratford.

Stansted has 2ph at 53 min, which is worse, but not excessively so.

IIRC the Stansted trains are 8 car. What are the Southend line trains
these days?

They appear to be Dusty Bins (Class 321). And most likely 8car.
--
Roland Perry

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On 24/04/2012 17:12, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:41:29 on Tue, 24
Apr 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.

More frequent train service from Southend I think.

Curiously, the East Coast planner has not been updated to include
Southend Airport station.

Reverting to NRES, it seems to have 3tph at 44 minutes to Stratford.

Stansted has 2ph at 53 min, which is worse, but not excessively so.

IIRC the Stansted trains are 8 car. What are the Southend line trains
these days?

They appear to be Dusty Bins (Class 321). And most likely 8car.

So Southend has a 50% greater capacity than Stansted. But nobody knows
its there!

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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"Graeme Wall" wrote

So Southend has a 50% greater capacity than Stansted. But nobody knows
its there!

Stansted no longer has through trains to Stratford (they now run Bishops
Stortford to Stratford), but a 4 tph service to Liverpool Street.

Peter

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On 24/04/2012 18:35, Peter Masson wrote:


"Graeme Wall" wrote

So Southend has a 50% greater capacity than Stansted. But nobody knows
its there!

Stansted no longer has through trains to Stratford (they now run Bishops
Stortford to Stratford), but a 4 tph service to Liverpool Street.


Ah, Roland seemed to think it was 2tph. Must confess I didn't bother to
check as timetables appear to be his "thing".


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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In message , at 18:14:28 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Don't forget they have London Southend Airport as well now.

... which is on the right side of London for visitors to Stratford.
Indeed, could it be the most convenient airport apart from LCY for
Olympic visitors who are staying in or near Stratford?

It's a toss-up between Southend and Stansted.

More frequent train service from Southend I think.

Curiously, the East Coast planner has not been updated to include
Southend Airport station.

Reverting to NRES, it seems to have 3tph at 44 minutes to Stratford.

Stansted has 2ph at 53 min, which is worse, but not excessively so.

IIRC the Stansted trains are 8 car. What are the Southend line trains
these days?

They appear to be Dusty Bins (Class 321). And most likely 8car.

So Southend has a 50% greater capacity than Stansted. But nobody knows
its there!

Only to Stratford. Stansted has 4tph to Liverpool St.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 19:08:31 on Tue, 24 Apr
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
Stansted no longer has through trains to Stratford (they now run Bishops
Stortford to Stratford), but a 4 tph service to Liverpool Street.

Ah, Roland seemed to think it was 2tph. Must confess I didn't bother
to check as timetables appear to be his "thing".

I didn't say they were direct trains.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 10:50:56
on Tue, 24 Apr 2012, remarked:

Marshall's like to think Cambridge will be good for Stratford too.

If travelling forward by road (using pre-booked transport I expect), it
is.
--
Roland Perry