BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34656

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

We the undersigned are appalled at the BBC's dire coverage and
reporting of the Jubilee events especially during the Thames Flotilla
on Sunday June 3. We are particularly concerned at the lack of
professionalism with regards to the presentation, editing and camera
angles. We are shocked at the use of the term 'Her Royal Highness'
when referring to Her Majesty the Queen. We are appalled at the total
lack of knowledge shown by the presenters of the individual boats
appearing in the Flotilla, especially regarding the Historic Boats and
the 'Little Boats of Dunkirk.' We were most disappointed that the
Spirit of Chartwell was not shown passing through Tower Bridge. This
programme was transmitted worldwide and was a national embarrassment.
We are also concerned that the Olympics will be likewise dumbed down.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

"CJB" wrote in message
...

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34656

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

We the undersigned are appalled at the BBC's dire coverage and
reporting of the Jubilee events especially during the Thames Flotilla
on Sunday June 3. We are particularly concerned at the lack of
professionalism with regards to the presentation, editing and camera
angles. We are shocked at the use of the term 'Her Royal Highness'
when referring to Her Majesty the Queen. We are appalled at the total
lack of knowledge shown by the presenters of the individual boats
appearing in the Flotilla, especially regarding the Historic Boats and
the 'Little Boats of Dunkirk.' We were most disappointed that the
Spirit of Chartwell was not shown passing through Tower Bridge. This
programme was transmitted worldwide and was a national embarrassment.
We are also concerned that the Olympics will be likewise dumbed down.


We would also like our TV licence fee doubled to £291.00 per year, to take
effect immediately, in order to make sure that these once every 300 year
occasions, like the Flotilla, get better coverage next time ;-)

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 11:37:39 +0100, "Harry Stottle"
wrote:

"CJB" wrote in message
...

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34656

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

We the undersigned are appalled at the BBC's dire coverage and
reporting of the Jubilee events especially during the Thames Flotilla
on Sunday June 3. We are particularly concerned at the lack of
professionalism with regards to the presentation, editing and camera
angles. We are shocked at the use of the term 'Her Royal Highness'
when referring to Her Majesty the Queen. We are appalled at the total
lack of knowledge shown by the presenters of the individual boats
appearing in the Flotilla, especially regarding the Historic Boats and
the 'Little Boats of Dunkirk.' We were most disappointed that the
Spirit of Chartwell was not shown passing through Tower Bridge. This
programme was transmitted worldwide and was a national embarrassment.
We are also concerned that the Olympics will be likewise dumbed down.


We would also like our TV licence fee doubled to £291.00 per year, to take
effect immediately, in order to make sure that these once every 300 year
occasions, like the Flotilla, get better coverage next time ;-)

I wonder what the net cost was to the BBC? The pictures were sold to
the worldwide media, so it might actually have made a profit. I also
think the Beeb did a better job on the Monday and Tuesday, so perhaps
it had focused its efforts on those days? And I wonder if the rain
killed some of the cameras, thus limiting the views available? It
certainly caused audio problems.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 11:37, Harry Stottle wrote:
"CJB" wrote in message
...

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34656

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

We the undersigned are appalled at the BBC's dire coverage and
reporting of the Jubilee events especially during the Thames Flotilla
on Sunday June 3. We are particularly concerned at the lack of
professionalism with regards to the presentation, editing and camera
angles. We are shocked at the use of the term 'Her Royal Highness'
when referring to Her Majesty the Queen. We are appalled at the total
lack of knowledge shown by the presenters of the individual boats
appearing in the Flotilla, especially regarding the Historic Boats and
the 'Little Boats of Dunkirk.' We were most disappointed that the
Spirit of Chartwell was not shown passing through Tower Bridge. This
programme was transmitted worldwide and was a national embarrassment.
We are also concerned that the Olympics will be likewise dumbed down.


We would also like our TV licence fee doubled to £291.00 per year, to take
effect immediately, in order to make sure that these once every 300 year
occasions, like the Flotilla, get better coverage next time ;-)



Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match rather
than a major state occasion like this.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 11:04, CJB wrote:

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34656

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

We the undersigned are appalled at the BBC's dire coverage and
reporting of the Jubilee events especially during the Thames Flotilla
on Sunday June 3. We are particularly concerned at the lack of
professionalism with regards to the presentation, editing and camera
angles. We are shocked at the use of the term 'Her Royal Highness'
when referring to Her Majesty the Queen. We are appalled at the total
lack of knowledge shown by the presenters of the individual boats
appearing in the Flotilla, especially regarding the Historic Boats and
the 'Little Boats of Dunkirk.' We were most disappointed that the
Spirit of Chartwell was not shown passing through Tower Bridge. This
programme was transmitted worldwide and was a national embarrassment.
We are also concerned that the Olympics will be likewise dumbed down.

Any particular reason you've posted this twice? And that's leaving aside
the fact it's undoubtedly off-topic for two of the three newsgroups
you've cross-posted to.

Perhaps we should start a petition against those who flagrantly abuse
usenet netiquette?

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 11:47, Recliner wrote:
I wonder what the net cost was to the BBC? The pictures were sold to
the worldwide media, so it might actually have made a profit. I also
think the Beeb did a better job on the Monday and Tuesday, so perhaps
it had focused its efforts on those days? And I wonder if the rain
killed some of the cameras, thus limiting the views available?

Not as far as I know.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

Mizter T formulated on Thursday :
On 07/06/2012 11:04, CJB wrote:
.

Any particular reason you've posted this twice? And that's leaving aside the
fact it's undoubtedly off-topic for two of the three newsgroups you've
cross-posted to.

Perhaps we should start a petition against those who flagrantly abuse usenet
netiquette?

What is Off Topic about it. The topic is BBC coverage of the Flotilla
and that is what the said petition is about.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

On Jun 7, 11:50*am, Mizter T wrote:
On 07/06/2012 11:04, CJB wrote:







BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34656

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

We the undersigned are appalled at the BBC's dire coverage and
reporting of the Jubilee events especially during the Thames Flotilla
on Sunday June 3. We are particularly concerned at the lack of
professionalism with regards to the presentation, editing and camera
angles. We are shocked at the use of the term 'Her Royal Highness'
when referring to Her Majesty the Queen. We are appalled at the total
lack of knowledge shown by the presenters of the individual boats
appearing in the Flotilla, especially regarding the Historic Boats and
the 'Little Boats of Dunkirk.' We were most disappointed that the
Spirit of Chartwell was not shown passing through Tower Bridge. This
programme was transmitted worldwide and was a national embarrassment.
We are also concerned that the Olympics will be likewise dumbed down.

Any particular reason you've posted this twice? And that's leaving aside
the fact it's undoubtedly off-topic for two of the three newsgroups
you've cross-posted to.

Perhaps we should start a petition against those who flagrantly abuse
usenet netiquette?

It was inadvertantly posted twice due to a snafu with the Google
Groups server. CJB.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On Thu 07 Jun 2012, MB wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match rather
than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed to
cover an event like this? It's quite mind boggling! I remember Princess
Di's funeral when I know they were employing wedding cameramen with sub
broadcast equipment to make up the numbers. No wonder some of the
coverage was poor and it always will be with the dumbed down, casualised
TV industry we now have.

I think ITV made a very good decision not to even attempt to cover it.
As an ex-BBC cameraman myself what upsets me most is that Sky apparently
did a better job than the BBC! This does not bode well for the BBC and
gives ammunition to its knockers, but I'm sad to say they have brought
about their own demise.

Cheers John


--
John Bennett johndotbennettatsmartemaildotcodotuk

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 15:36, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, MB wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match rather
than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed to
cover an event like this? It's quite mind boggling! I remember Princess
Di's funeral when I know they were employing wedding cameramen with sub
broadcast equipment to make up the numbers.

Who are "they"?

No wonder some of the
coverage was poor and it always will be with the dumbed down, casualised
TV industry we now have.

I think ITV made a very good decision not to even attempt to cover it.
As an ex-BBC cameraman myself

Ah, /that/ John Bennett.

what upsets me most is that Sky apparently
did a better job than the BBC! This does not bode well for the BBC and
gives ammunition to its knockers, but I'm sad to say they have brought
about their own demise.



--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, MB wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match rather
than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed to
cover an event like this?


I bet Sky News did it with a quarter of the resources expended by the
BBC and still produced much better coverage.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 16:05, Bruce wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match rather
than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed to
cover an event like this?


I bet Sky News did it with a quarter of the resources expended by the
BBC and still produced much better coverage.


Given they were both using the same event cameras that seems unlikely.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On Thu 07 Jun 2012, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 07/06/2012 15:36, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, MB wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match
rather than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed
to cover an event like this? It's quite mind boggling! I remember
Princess Di's funeral when I know they were employing wedding
cameramen with sub broadcast equipment to make up the numbers.

Who are "they"?

It was the BBC and I know of some local "amateurs" who were contracted
for the day using their home made OB unit!

No wonder some of the coverage was poor and it always will be with
the dumbed down, casualised TV industry we now have.

I think ITV made a very good decision not to even attempt to cover
it. As an ex-BBC cameraman myself

Ah, /that/ John Bennett.

Could be:-) We've worked together!

what upsets me most is that Sky apparently did a better job than
the BBC! This does not bode well for the BBC and gives ammunition
to its knockers, but I'm sad to say they have brought about their
own demise.

I'm glad I had left before it started going tits up! Did you watch
"Tales of Television Centre" last week? Reminiscing about the Glory Days
of the Beeb!

Cheers John

--
John Bennett johndotbennettatsmartemaildotcodotuk

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 16:32, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 07/06/2012 15:36, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, MB wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match
rather than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed
to cover an event like this? It's quite mind boggling! I remember
Princess Di's funeral when I know they were employing wedding
cameramen with sub broadcast equipment to make up the numbers.

Who are "they"?

It was the BBC and I know of some local "amateurs" who were contracted
for the day using their home made OB unit!

That I hadn't heard of! I know there were a few single-camera guys who
were co-opted onto OB cameras and found it not as easy as they expected.


No wonder some of the coverage was poor and it always will be with
the dumbed down, casualised TV industry we now have.

I think ITV made a very good decision not to even attempt to cover
it. As an ex-BBC cameraman myself

Ah, /that/ John Bennett.

Could be:-) We've worked together!

Yup.


what upsets me most is that Sky apparently did a better job than
the BBC! This does not bode well for the BBC and gives ammunition
to its knockers, but I'm sad to say they have brought about their
own demise.

I'm glad I had left before it started going tits up! Did you watch
"Tales of Television Centre" last week? Reminiscing about the Glory Days
of the Beeb!


Yes, most entertaining :-)

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

BBC is a Tunguska-Like Disaster
 

Dire is the word - the best word but not the only word.

But for the BBC on Monday there was only ONE word. An embargo was placed on all adjectives except one. Even "robust" was forced to have one day off.

That word was MAGNIFICENT.

Buckingham Palace looked magnificent. The crowd was magnificent. St Paul's was magnificent. Admiralty Arch was magnificent. The dinner at the Abbey was magnificent.

Except that it was all delivered in that straight-out-of-Viz Cockney ****** Style that the BBC drools over: A fink da kaween is gonna be leevin in a ower or summit innit??

Thank God for subtitles.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

In article , Graeme Wall
scribeth thus
On 07/06/2012 16:32, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 07/06/2012 15:36, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, MB wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match
rather than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed
to cover an event like this? It's quite mind boggling! I remember
Princess Di's funeral when I know they were employing wedding
cameramen with sub broadcast equipment to make up the numbers.

Who are "they"?

It was the BBC and I know of some local "amateurs" who were contracted
for the day using their home made OB unit!

That I hadn't heard of! I know there were a few single-camera guys who
were co-opted onto OB cameras and found it not as easy as they expected.




Http://www.sislive.tv/broadcast-solu...2/06/sis-live-
help-deliver-coverage-of-the-queens-diamond-jubilee-events/
--
Tony Sayer

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other JubilleeEvents
 

On 07/06/2012 21:00, tony sayer wrote:
In , Graeme Wall
scribeth thus
On 07/06/2012 16:32, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, Graeme wrote:
On 07/06/2012 15:36, John Bennett wrote:
On Thu 07 Jun 2012, wrote:

Perhaps a petition about why ITV chose to cover a tennis match
rather than a major state occasion like this.

Have you thought about how many cameras and cameramen are needed
to cover an event like this? It's quite mind boggling! I remember
Princess Di's funeral when I know they were employing wedding
cameramen with sub broadcast equipment to make up the numbers.

Who are "they"?

It was the BBC and I know of some local "amateurs" who were contracted
for the day using their home made OB unit!

That I hadn't heard of! I know there were a few single-camera guys who
were co-opted onto OB cameras and found it not as easy as they expected.




Http://www.sislive.tv/broadcast-solu...2/06/sis-live-
help-deliver-coverage-of-the-queens-diamond-jubilee-events/

SIS bought all the BBC OB units a few years ago. Though John and I were
discussing Di's funeral when the Beeb still had it's own location
facilities.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:11:13 +0100, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 07/06/2012 11:47, Recliner wrote:
I wonder what the net cost was to the BBC? The pictures were sold to
the worldwide media, so it might actually have made a profit. I also
think the Beeb did a better job on the Monday and Tuesday, so perhaps
it had focused its efforts on those days? And I wonder if the rain
killed some of the cameras, thus limiting the views available?

Not as far as I know.

It seems that some cameras were indeed killed by the weather, as this
account by Clare Balding indicates: "Balding, a freelance presenter
and not a BBC employee, said staff did the best they could but were
beset by technical problems.

She explained: “There were cameras on nine boats and we had three
working. There was a lot going on that was very, very difficult to
deal with. So you do what you can."
From
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/h...e-Balding.html

The whole article is worth reading, as she puts the problems in
context. And I agree with the Telegraph that she was one presenter who
did do a good job that day (from the Gloriana).

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On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:04:25 +0100
Recliner wrote:
It seems that some cameras were indeed killed by the weather, as this
account by Clare Balding indicates: "Balding, a freelance presenter
and not a BBC employee, said staff did the best they could but were
beset by technical problems.

Perhaps I'm being naive here - but shouldn't outside broadcast equipment
be rainproof? After all , it is going to be used, errm, outside.

B2003

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On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:11:59 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:04:25 +0100
Recliner wrote:
It seems that some cameras were indeed killed by the weather, as this
account by Clare Balding indicates: "Balding, a freelance presenter
and not a BBC employee, said staff did the best they could but were
beset by technical problems.

Perhaps I'm being naive here - but shouldn't outside broadcast equipment
be rainproof? After all , it is going to be used, errm, outside.

Yes, you'd think so. I assume the equipment on boats may get wetter
than in normal land conditions, and being battery-powered may not
help. They had the further problem that they lost comms when boats
went under bridges.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:15:34 +0100
Recliner wrote:
Yes, you'd think so. I assume the equipment on boats may get wetter
than in normal land conditions, and being battery-powered may not
help. They had the further problem that they lost comms when boats
went under bridges.

Yes, I noticed that. You wouldn't have thought that it would be too hard to
keep constant comms in the middle of a large flat river with plenty of sites
for antennas 4 miles from TV centre when they can manage to broadcast richard
hammonds naff gags live from the middle of umbongo land.

B2003

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On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:50:45 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:15:34 +0100
Recliner wrote:
Yes, you'd think so. I assume the equipment on boats may get wetter
than in normal land conditions, and being battery-powered may not
help. They had the further problem that they lost comms when boats
went under bridges.

Yes, I noticed that. You wouldn't have thought that it would be too hard to
keep constant comms in the middle of a large flat river with plenty of sites
for antennas 4 miles from TV centre when they can manage to broadcast richard
hammonds naff gags live from the middle of umbongo land.

I turned off Planet Earth Live after the first five minutes, but I
wonder just how much of it was actually live? Very little, I suspect.
And not having watched it, I don't know if Hammond and Julia Bradbury
went walkabout in the live sections, or stayed in the bush studios.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:57:08 +0100
Recliner wrote:
I turned off Planet Earth Live after the first five minutes, but I

It was pretty awful.

wonder just how much of it was actually live? Very little, I suspect.

I think Hammond was live - they did a link up on the One Show before it
kicked off. Or as live as he ever can be - he seems to go through the same
pre programmed set of gurning, facial tics and phony excitement in every show
he appears in.

B2003

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On 08/06/2012 12:11, d wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:04:25 +0100
wrote:
It seems that some cameras were indeed killed by the weather, as this
account by Clare Balding indicates: "Balding, a freelance presenter
and not a BBC employee, said staff did the best they could but were
beset by technical problems.

Perhaps I'm being naive here - but shouldn't outside broadcast equipment
be rainproof? After all , it is going to be used, errm, outside.


You would have thought so :-0 The problem is there are too many
miniature connectors for things like power supply and servo controls to
the lens. Also radio link equipment is notoriously finicky in wet
weather. There were also problems with the sound equipment on the
orchestra boat caused by the weather.

--
Graeme Wall
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Graeme Wall explained on 08/06/2012 :
You would have thought so :-0 The problem is there are too many miniature
connectors for things like power supply and servo controls to the lens. Also
radio link equipment is notoriously finicky in wet weather. There were also
problems with the sound equipment on the orchestra boat caused by the
weather.


Maybe in view of the weather forecast if someone had have bought some
of those big Union jack umbrellas everyone would have been better off.

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

"Brian" wrote in message
eb.com...

Graeme Wall explained on 08/06/2012 :
You would have thought so :-0 The problem is there are too many
miniature connectors for things like power supply and servo controls to
the lens. Also radio link equipment is notoriously finicky in wet
weather. There were also problems with the sound equipment on the
orchestra boat caused by the weather.


Maybe in view of the weather forecast if someone had have bought some of
those big Union jack umbrellas everyone would have been better off.

Of Course !

" There were also
problems with the sound equipment on the orchestra boat caused by the
weather."

Caused by incompetence more-like.
Bad weather was clearly forecast - the choir should have been provided with
cover of some sort.
I felt really sorry for them.

Pete

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On 08/06/2012 18:51, Pete wrote:


"Brian" wrote in message
b.com...

Graeme Wall explained on 08/06/2012 :
You would have thought so :-0 The problem is there are too many
miniature connectors for things like power supply and servo controls
to the lens. Also radio link equipment is notoriously finicky in wet
weather. There were also problems with the sound equipment on the
orchestra boat caused by the weather.


Maybe in view of the weather forecast if someone had have bought some
of those big Union jack umbrellas everyone would have been better off.

Of Course !

" There were also
problems with the sound equipment on the orchestra boat caused by the
weather."

Caused by incompetence more-like.

You are an expert are you?

--
Graeme Wall
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BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

In message , at 20:12:48 on Fri, 8 Jun
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
" There were also problems with the sound equipment on the orchestra
boat caused by the weather."

Caused by incompetence more-like.

You are an expert are you?

I'm not a weather forecaster, but rain was foretold by professional
weather forecasters from about a week before.

I know because I was supposed to go to a Jubilee party some three hours
drive away, and as I rather suspected, it was rained off at 7am that
morning.
--
Roland Perry

BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
 

"Brian" *wrote in message
eb.com...
Graeme Wall explained on 08/06/2012 :
You would have thought so :-0 *The problem is there are too many
miniature connectors for things like power supply and servo controls to
the lens. *Also radio link equipment is notoriously finicky in wet
weather. *There were also problems with the sound equipment on the
orchestra boat caused by the weather.

Maybe in view of the weather forecast if someone had have bought some of
those big Union jack umbrellas everyone would have been better off.

Of Course !

" There were also

problems with the sound equipment on the orchestra boat caused by the
weather."

Caused by incompetence more-like.
Bad weather was clearly forecast - the choir should have been provided *with
cover of some sort.
I felt really sorry for them.

Pete

Feel a bit sorry for the Beebe on this one. It really was a massive,
exceptionally long drawn out and very unpredictable event to film.
More than twelve thousand people afloat in the most horrendous weather
conditions, many on precariously small craft. I can understand the
director thinking, this is going to be long drawn out and
tedious,looking for plan B diversions such as baking cakes in
Battersea Park etc. He was beset with technical fault after fault,
equipment failure after failure, in fact everything which could have
been thrown at him happened on that wet dismal day.

Then there were the protocols. Royal. Unbelievable security levels.
Health and Safety etc. Dictats from the Port of London Authority. They
even dictated that the Queen and the Duke had to wear life jackets
when going out to the Royal Barge on Britannia's tender. The Duke told
them in no uncertain terms to eff off! That is fact! Did you notice
everyone else on that craft, even the two Royal funkiest in red, were
all wearing life jackets! All exept HRH and the Duke!

Even for the all mistakes, bad judgement, poor coverage and lack of
info about the boats, all in all I enjoyed it. Did get very niggled
when wanting to see particular boats and having to watch artists on
the bridge etc or having to watch Sandy Tosdig talking drifflel. Think
it portrayed a certain very attractive British eccentricity in typical
British weather. Only we could do it!

Roger

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On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT), Roger Murray
wrote:


Then there were the protocols. Royal. Unbelievable security levels.
Health and Safety etc. Dictats from the Port of London Authority. They
even dictated that the Queen and the Duke had to wear life jackets
when going out to the Royal Barge on Britannia's tender. The Duke told
them in no uncertain terms to eff off! That is fact! Did you notice
everyone else on that craft, even the two Royal funkiest in red, were
all wearing life jackets! All exept HRH and the Duke!

Ahem, HM, not HRH (which happens to be one of the most
complained-about commentators' errors).

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On 08/06/2012 21:51, Recliner wrote:
Ahem, HM, not HRH (which happens to be one of the most
complained-about commentators' errors).

Not just commentators. IIRC Prince William managed to make the same mistake.

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On 08/06/12 21:51, Recliner wrote:
Ahem, HM, not HRH (which happens to be one of the most
complained-about commentators' errors).

Ah, but perhaps Roger is old enough to remeber HM when she was HRH :)

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On Jun 8, 9:51*pm, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT), Roger Murray

wrote:

Then there were the protocols. Royal. Unbelievable security levels.
Health and Safety etc. Dictats from the Port of London Authority. They
even dictated that the Queen and the Duke had to wear life jackets
when going out to the Royal Barge on Britannia's tender. The Duke told
them in no uncertain terms to eff off! That is fact! *Did you notice
everyone else on that craft, even the two Royal funkiest in red, were
all wearing life jackets! All exept HRH and the Duke!

Ahem, HM, not HRH (which happens to be one of the most
complained-about commentators' errors).
Ahem.

Ahem. Think you are somewhat misinformed. Depends on who is making the
statement!

Roger.

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In message
, at
13:22:21 on Fri, 8 Jun 2012, Roger Murray
remarked:

or having to watch Sandy Tosdig talking drifflel. Think it portrayed a
certain very attractive British eccentricity in typical British
weather.

She's Danish. (As I'm sure I heard her say on the day - something to do
with longboats up the Thames).
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Roland Perry

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Greame wrote -------(about me !!! )

You are an expert are you?


Stick around Greame -- you will soon find out without my modesty being
compromised
in replying directly !

Pete

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"Pete" wrote in message ...



Greame wrote -------(about me !!! )

You are an expert are you?


Stick around Greame -- you will soon find out without my modesty being
compromised
in replying directly !

Pete

OOOOPs--------------- it was Graeme that pondered on my credentials on
matters waterways - perhaps spelling is not one of my expertises-- lol

p

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On 8 Jun 2012 as I do recall,
Pete wrote:

[snip]
Bad weather was clearly forecast - the choir should have been provided with
cover of some sort.
I felt really sorry for them.

They had cover (umbrellas) earlier on when they went past us before
Lambeth Bridge - evidently they decided to go all out for the grand
finale and let the weather go hang :-) I noticed that the one with
glasses was the only one to have her hood up, presumably because she
would have been absolutely blind otherwise!


I suspect the image of the soaking choir singing their hearts out will
be the abiding memory of the Jubilee procession, a la Dunkirk spirit....

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On 08/06/2012 22:45, Pete wrote:


Greame wrote -------(about me !!! )

You are an expert are you?


Stick around Greame -- you will soon find out without my modesty being
compromised
in replying directly !

Pete


Who is Greame?

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On 08/06/2012 22:50, Pete wrote:


"Pete" wrote in message ...



Greame wrote -------(about me !!! )

You are an expert are you?


Stick around Greame -- you will soon find out without my modesty being
compromised
in replying directly !

Pete

OOOOPs--------------- it was Graeme that pondered on my credentials on
matters waterways - perhaps spelling is not one of my expertises-- lol


Ignore my previous then.


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This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 03:01:18 +0100, Harriet Bazley
wrote:


I suspect the image of the soaking choir singing their hearts out will
be the abiding memory of the Jubilee procession, a la Dunkirk spirit....

Yes, absolutely.