Originally Posted by Richard J.[_3_] (Post 131953)

Robin9 wrote on 15 July 2012
15:27:26 ...
It is now evident that most motorists in London including taxi and
emergency services drivers have no idea when Olympic Lanes
come into force and during which hours and on what days they
will be in operation. This afternoon Petrie Hoskins - I hope I have
spelled her name correctly - has conducted a phone-in programme
on this subject and no-one, absolutely no-one, knew what was
going on. Anger at TfL was general and unlimited.

People have no idea because it's not a simple question. Each Games Lane
will be in operation for the days on which it is required. For example
the M4 Games Lane from Heathrow (which operates from tomorrow, 16 July)
doesn't have the same operating days/times as the Games Lane to
Wimbledon for the Olympic tennis. This is no different from the way bus
lanes are organised. If you asked me what the operating hours are for a
random bus lane in London, I probably wouldn't know. So what? If I
happened to need to drive in that part of London, I would look at the signs.

Emergency service drivers on emergency calls don't need to know, as they
can use the Games Lanes anyway.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Originally Posted by Paul Corfield (Post 131954)

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:27:26 +0100, Robin9
wrote:


It is now evident that most motorists in London including taxi and
emergency services drivers have no idea when Olympic Lanes
come into force and during which hours and on what days they
will be in operation. This afternoon Petrie Hoskins - I hope I have
spelled her name correctly - has conducted a phone-in programme
on this subject and no-one, absolutely no-one, knew what was
going on. Anger at TfL was general and unlimited.

As Ken Livingstone and David Mellor were also pretty critical
yesterday, it is quite likely that this is going to be a very
hot potato in the next few weeks.

I hope Boris gets dragged in. He won't have a clue. He'll
flounder and flop and be shown up for what he is.

If they don't know then it's because they've ignored the endless
adverts about "Get Ahead of the Games" or have opted not to find out.
I know not everyone has web access but many, many people do.

After all there are only pages and pages and pages of info and maps
available.

http://www.getaheadofthegames.com/th...e-network.html

I've struggled to find out some aspects of public transport info on
that website but if you dig around there is a lot of info. I don't
drive so Games Lanes are very unlikely to affect me in any direct
sense.

I think you'll find the media are winding themselves up into a state
of complete frenzy and if a Jubilee Line train is "delayed" by 10
seconds it will be front page news. People in the land of "tweets"
will also be zapping their 140 characters of "news" and "photos" any
time there is a queue or any sort of station management in place.
Prepare to collapse under a torrent of unmitigated useless news that
is completely and utterly out of proportion to what actually happened
(if anything did actually happen).

If something very serious does happen then that would be valid news
and worthy of reporting but I do think we will struggle to spot the
difference. At that Boris would be in the spotlight but I rather
suspect it will be shared by whoever in TfL, Network Rail or a TOC is
responsible.

--
Paul C

Originally Posted by Richard J.[_3_] (Post 131958)

Robin9 wrote on 15 July 2012
23:00:41 ...
'Richard J.[_3_ Wrote:
;131953']Robin9 wrote on 15 July 2012

15:27:26 ...-
It is now evident that most motorists in London including taxi and
emergency services drivers have no idea when Olympic Lanes
come into force and during which hours and on what days they
will be in operation. This afternoon Petrie Hoskins - I hope I have
spelled her name correctly - has conducted a phone-in programme
on this subject and no-one, absolutely no-one, knew what was
going on. Anger at TfL was general and unlimited.-

People have no idea because it's not a simple question. Each Games Lane

will be in operation for the days on which it is required. For example

the M4 Games Lane from Heathrow (which operates from tomorrow, 16 July)

doesn't have the same operating days/times as the Games Lane to
Wimbledon for the Olympic tennis. This is no different from the way bus

lanes are organised. If you asked me what the operating hours are for a

random bus lane in London, I probably wouldn't know. So what? If I
happened to need to drive in that part of London, I would look at the
signs.

Emergency service drivers on emergency calls don't need to know, as they

can use the Games Lanes anyway.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

People have no idea, not because the issue is not simple but because
they have
been given conflicting pieces of information. If you believe that there
are "signs"
in all the appropriate places providing accurate and up-to-the-minute
information,
you are sorely mistaken.

I didn't claim that all the signs are in place yet.

An example: We have been told that the Olympic Lanes come into force
today.

By whom? Only the M4 lane starts today.

This afternoon I was driving up Shooters Hill Road towards the
Sun-In-The-Sands
roundabout. Near the roundabout the off-side lane has been marked as an
Olympic
Lane. Was it in force this afternoon? I have no idea. Certainly there
was no sign
providing information nor has any sign been installed to provide
information in the
days ahead. So how are drivers to work it out by looking at the signs?

If there's no sign, it's not in force. Simple.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)