End of A Stock?
 

Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.

End of A Stock?
 

On Jul 1, 12:59*am, "
wrote:
Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.

They are an important part of UK railway history. In 1962 they were
ahead of their time.

End of A Stock?
 

On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:59:09 +0100, "
wrote:

Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.

I assume 'revenue service' means scheduled passenger services. The
Concorde is in an aviation museum which no doubt makes an admission
charge, but this does not mean it is in 'revenue service'.

End of A Stock?
 

End of A Stock?
 

So, are they gone or not?

End of A Stock?
 

In article ,
(Bruce) wrote:

wrote:

On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 01:22:41 -0700 (PDT), e27002
wrote:

Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia
runs, similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.

They are an important part of UK railway history. In 1962 they were
ahead of their time.

In what way were they ahead of their time?
Aluminium construction had already been done on previous stock so
that cannot be it, fluorescent lighting like wise and the control
equipment was similar to that already used on other stocks. So far
from being ahead of their time they were simply another marque of
stock using existing techniques which isn't a bad thing if you want
something reliable.

The primary suspension used a bonded rubber/metal sandwich in shear.
It was called Metalastik and was manufactured by Dunlop.

Since Dunlop's demise, the rights to Metalastik technology were sold
to Trelleborg of Sweden.

Metalastik rubber suspension was first used on 1956 prototype tube stock,
surely?

The only unique factor now gone is Cravens-built stock in scheduled
passenger service on LUL.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Jul 1, 12:59*am, "
wrote:
Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?


According to the District Dave forum - the best place for this kind of
info - saturday was the first S8-only day, which isnt the same thing
especially as there was engineering work reducing the number of trains
required. I dont think the date of their full withdrawal is known yet,
there's been talk of some being kept as cover during the Olympics and
the LTM friends site has a (provisional) date in September pencilled
in for the farewell train.

When it comes to their preservation, apparently the plan was to keep
two railhead treatment sets for sandite application and maintained for
occasional heritage train use and the LTM want to preserve a unit too.
Hopefully that remains the case.

Chris

End of A Stock?
 

They were the only post-war Underground stock with all-transverse seating and luggage racks.

On Sunday, July 1, 2012 12:59:09 AM UTC+1, wrote:
Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.

End of A Stock?
 

On Jul 3, 9:03*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:
They were the only post-war Underground stock with all-transverse seating and luggage racks.



On Sunday, July 1, 2012 12:59:09 AM UTC+1, wrote:
Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.- Hide quoted text -

In 1962 I was ten. On the Met. & GC main line thru the County of
Buckingham, British Railways were running steam trains and DMUs.
Subjectively, by comparison the Silver, electric Met. Line trains were
like somthing from the future.

End of A Stock?
 

On 03/07/2012 12:28, 77002 wrote:
On Jul 3, 9:03 am, "Dr. wrote:
They were the only post-war Underground stock with all-transverse seating and luggage racks.



On Sunday, July 1, 2012 12:59:09 AM UTC+1, wrote:
Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.- Hide quoted text -

In 1962 I was ten. On the Met.& GC main line thru the County of
Buckingham, British Railways were running steam trains and DMUices.
Subjectively, by comparison the Silver, electric Met. Line trains were
like somthing from the future.

I noticed that some of the younger kids at school were showing
disturbingly reactionary tendencies. That was in Herts, but it was
probably much the same.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

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On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:15:00 +0100,
wrote:
So, are they gone or not?

4 or 5 running in evening peak on Tuesday (3 July) including fast Aldgate
to Amersham. But not as fast as I think I remember they used to go.

Colin McKenzie

--
Cycling in the UK is about as safe as walking, and helmets don't make it
safer. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.

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On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:28:39 +0100, "Colin McKenzie"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:15:00 +0100,
wrote:
So, are they gone or not?

4 or 5 running in evening peak on Tuesday (3 July) including fast Aldgate
to Amersham. But not as fast as I think I remember they used to go.

No, the top speed was reduced significantly after the bogies starting
cracking. The new S stock has a higher top speed than the reduced A
stock speed, but still lower than the original A stock speed.

End of A Stock?
 

On 05/07/2012 22:30, Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:28:39 +0100, "Colin McKenzie"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:15:00 +0100,
wrote:
So, are they gone or not?

4 or 5 running in evening peak on Tuesday (3 July) including fast Aldgate
to Amersham. But not as fast as I think I remember they used to go.

No, the top speed was reduced significantly after the bogies starting
cracking. The new S stock has a higher top speed than the reduced A
stock speed, but still lower than the original A stock speed.


They seemed to be moving at close to 60 miles between Chalfont & Latimer
and Chorleywood.

They were certainly moving faster than A stocks between
Harrow-on-the-Hill and Finchley Road.

What are the speeds on some parts of the Central Line's outer extremes?
It certainly felt faster than 35 or 40 miles.

End of A Stock?
 

On Jul 5, 10:58*pm, "
wrote:


What are the speeds on some parts of the Central Line's outer extremes?
It certainly felt faster than 35 or 40 miles.

85 km/h, down from 100 km/h since Chancery Lane bogie incident.

Those are the speeds in ATO, apparently rumours suggest can be exceed
in CM.

1992 stock is being rebogied ... methinks they must be a very long way
into that project now ... the original Kawasaki bogies are replaced by
new Siemens bogies ... I have no idea either way if 100 km/h will be
reinstated or not.

Don't forget though stock speed is academic as Central Line ATO uses a
speed control system where maximum safe speed for present section and
target speed for next section are commanded from trackside to train.

--
Nick

End of A Stock?
 

On Sunday, July 1, 2012 12:59:09 AM UTC+1, wrote:
Read on Wikipedia that Saturday was the A stock's last day of revenue
service. Can anybody confirm?

I thought that they were going to keep a few around for nostaglia runs,
similar to the 38s or to the Sarah Siddons.

I rode on an A stock last Monday and I saw one call at Aldgate today.