Got on a northbound at Vauxhall this morning, and for the first time noticed
that the 7 seats facnig each other in the middle part of the carriage, have
been altered to match the Jubilee style stock .. ie, there are now onyl 5
seats and a pad to rest your arse on at each end! Allows more standing area
by the doors.

First time i've seen this.. has this just been done, or am I way behind the
times?

Also it had new upholstery on the seats, as i noted a Met line train did the
other day too .. nice new purple patterned material...

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:30:10 -0000, "Geoff Marshall"
wrote:

Got on a northbound at Vauxhall this morning, and for the first time noticed
that the 7 seats facnig each other in the middle part of the carriage, have
been altered to match the Jubilee style stock .. ie, there are now onyl 5
seats and a pad to rest your arse on at each end! Allows more standing area
by the doors.

First time i've seen this.. has this just been done, or am I way behind the
times?

Also it had new upholstery on the seats, as i noted a Met line train did the
other day too .. nice new purple patterned material...

I think you are behind the times by several years. One unit was
converted to this format in the two trailer cars as a trial. I think it
is unit 3086 etc but am happy to be corrected. While I can see some
marginal benefit in terms of additional standees I am very grateful they
have not converted any more cars to this format.

I am not aware of any substantive mods that are planned on Vic Line
trains in advance of fleet replacement in a few years time. It is now
commonplace for seat moquette to be cleaned / replaced as the Infracos
respond to the Ambience incentives in the PPP Contract.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

I remember those mods from when I started secondary school - back almost 10
years ago! Isn't it 4 seats in the middle and two long pads at each end?

Fossil

Paul Corfield wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:30:10 -0000, "Geoff Marshall"
wrote:

Got on a northbound at Vauxhall this morning, and for the first time noticed
that the 7 seats facnig each other in the middle part of the carriage, have
been altered to match the Jubilee style stock .. ie, there are now onyl 5
seats and a pad to rest your arse on at each end! Allows more standing area
by the doors.

First time i've seen this.. has this just been done, or am I way behind the
times?

Also it had new upholstery on the seats, as i noted a Met line train did the
other day too .. nice new purple patterned material...

I think you are behind the times by several years. One unit was
converted to this format in the two trailer cars as a trial. I think it
is unit 3086 etc but am happy to be corrected. While I can see some
marginal benefit in terms of additional standees I am very grateful they
have not converted any more cars to this format.

I am not aware of any substantive mods that are planned on Vic Line
trains in advance of fleet replacement in a few years time. It is now
commonplace for seat moquette to be cleaned / replaced as the Infracos
respond to the Ambience incentives in the PPP Contract.

There were 2 sets done, 3086 and the other was either 3009 or 3010 ?
not sure. They were both used on a tour I arranged on the Vic (Badger
Railrours, memories..) The 2 and 2 facing became 1 facing two by the
doors i recall which was usefull for someone my size as I could occupy
the whole seat and not get sneering looks from people like I do now
for occupying 1 and half !

I rather like the Bakerloo idea of removing the arm rests in the
"sideways" seats as well.

Fat Richard

"Fat Richard" wrote in message
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usefull for someone my size as I could occupy
the whole seat and not get sneering looks from
people like I do now for occupying 1 and half !

Did you by any chance work at Epsom station in 1997-1998?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"Fat Richard" wrote in message
om...

I rather like the Bakerloo idea of removing the arm rests in the
"sideways" seats as well.

But what about those sitting next to you? :-)
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org
E-mail:
URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/

Whoops!

bit behind the times then. travel on the Vic a fair bit though, and that's
the first time i've ever seen it! ah well ... sorry ...!


"Fossil" wrote in message
...
I remember those mods from when I started secondary school - back almost
10
years ago! Isn't it 4 seats in the middle and two long pads at each end?

Fossil

"Geoff Marshall" wrote in message
...
Whoops!

bit behind the times then. travel on the Vic a fair bit though, and
that's
the first time i've ever seen it! ah well ... sorry ...!


I've travelled on the Vic Line for the last 3 years, 5 days a week and
probably seen one less than 5 times.

Is the floor a different colour ? I've got a feeling it might be blue,
tinted windows as well ?





"Fossil" wrote in message
...
I remember those mods from when I started secondary school - back almost
10
years ago! Isn't it 4 seats in the middle and two long pads at each end?

Fossil

Fat Richard wrote in message

There were 2 sets done, 3086 and the other was either 3009 or 3010 ?
not sure. They were both used on a tour I arranged on the Vic (Badger
Railrours, memories..) The 2 and 2 facing became 1 facing two by the
doors i recall which was usefull for someone my size as I could occupy
the whole seat and not get sneering looks from people like I do now
for occupying 1 and half !

I rather like the Bakerloo idea of removing the arm rests in the
"sideways" seats as well.

Fat Richard

I was on that very tour, in that very carriage (3186)! and it was the 1st
time i had ever seen that seating arrangement (1+2) as well! I've still got
the pics looking through the cab front, going through the wash at
Northumberland Park, must post them up on a site someday!

Great tour that was, many thanks for that!

Tom.Tyne & Wear Metro Group:
http://groups.msn.com/tyneweartransportgroup
metromadme AT SPAMTRAP blueyonder DOT co DOT uk

"simon" wrote in message
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I've travelled on the Vic Line for the last 3 years, 5 days a week and
probably seen one less than 5 times.

Is the floor a different colour ? I've got a feeling it might be blue,
tinted windows as well ?

Floor is the same colour, windows are smaller (more like square) and have
black 'plastic film' around the edges. The 'sticker' for the Victoria Line
destinations are much smaller. Don't see those carriages much these days.


Fossil