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You just don't get it, do you? There is no way a parent on their own can
fold a buggy for a not-yet-walking child and get onto a bus. They need
too many hands.
It was normal in the 60s, why do women need more hands now?

They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used open
platform buses where they could board first and then fold the buggy.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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(Clive) wrote:

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You just don't get it, do you? There is no way a parent on their own can
fold a buggy for a not-yet-walking child and get onto a bus. They need
too many hands.
It was normal in the 60s, why do women need more hands now?

They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used open
platform buses where they could board first and then fold the buggy.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

And then there was often a conductor to help.

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(Clive) wrote:
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You just don't get it, do you? There is no way a parent on their own can
fold a buggy for a not-yet-walking child and get onto a bus. They need
too many hands.
It was normal in the 60s, why do women need more hands now?
They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used open
platform buses where they could board first and then fold the buggy.
And then there was often a conductor to help.
Rubbish, the pushchair was folded before the bus stopped, or you didn't
get on.
I'm not guessing, I was a bus driver.
--
Clive

On 22/09/2012 21:41, Clive wrote:
In message , Graham Harrison
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(Clive) wrote:
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You just don't get it, do you? There is no way a parent on their own can
fold a buggy for a not-yet-walking child and get onto a bus. They need
too many hands.
It was normal in the 60s, why do women need more hands now?
They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used open
platform buses where they could board first and then fold the buggy.
And then there was often a conductor to help.
Rubbish, the pushchair was folded before the bus stopped, or you didn't
get on.
I'm not guessing, I was a bus driver.

Absolutely, I raised a family in the 60's, there was a very limited amount
of storage space under the stairs and if it was already full you quite often
would not be able to get on, the conductor would not usually let you take
anything large down the aisle unless the bus was almost empty, you could
never
have got one of todays giant wheelie suitcases on to an RM, fortunately
they did
not exist in those days. We usually carried my daughter, it made getting
the bus
a lot easier.

--
Martin

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In article ,
(Clive) wrote:

In message , Graham Harrison
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In article ,
(Clive) wrote:
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You just don't get it, do you? There is no way a parent on their own
can fold a buggy for a not-yet-walking child and get onto a bus. They
need too many hands.
It was normal in the 60s, why do women need more hands now?
They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used
open platform buses where they could board first and then fold the
buggy.
And then there was often a conductor to help.
Rubbish, the pushchair was folded before the bus stopped, or you
didn't get on.
I'm not guessing, I was a bus driver.

And only people who could do that used buses. The rest were excluded. That
was the nasty way things were then. I don't think my mother did.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used open
platform buses where they could board first and then fold the buggy.

My mother could easily fold or unfold a pushchair with a single flick of
one hand in the 50s. But of course they didn't have buggies in those
days.

And most toddlers were encouraged to walk (with reins) from an early
age, so folded pushchairs on buses were not so common back then.

--
Paul Terry

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They couldn't travel on buses with very small children or they used open
platform buses where they could board first and then fold the buggy.

My mother could easily fold or unfold a pushchair with a single flick
of one hand in the 50s. But of course they didn't have buggies in
those days.

And most toddlers were encouraged to walk (with reins) from an early
age, so folded pushchairs on buses were not so common back then.

I was talking about children too young to walk. I agree it's not a problem
if they can.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:49:39 +0100, "tim....."
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"Richard" wrote in message
.. .

Extraordinary how so much of the civilised world thinks that one door
is enough on a bus.

Do they?

I was criticising opinion here, that seems to think that one is enough
when, as you say, the rest of the world has other ideas and might be
right. We didn't always do it this way - what happened? Unions (see
Dublin Bus) or lawyers?

Out of town buses might not, but then they don't in the UK either

Yes, but many countries simply don't have the dense (or dense-ish)
interurban network that we do here, or use coaches instead. Perhaps
this is why we have diverged a bit from other places, creating the
idea of a bus that is a compromise for both types of service and over
time dropped the extra door.

Richard.

In message , at 21:14:31 on
Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Graham Harrison
remarked:
The first question Tesco ask you is "Have you brought your own bag",
at which point you can put it on the bagging area and it
re-calibrates the weighing scales.
Not in my neck of the woods. It says have you brought your own
bags, press yes, put them in the bagging area and it immediately says
unknown item in bagging area.

I went to Sainsbury later, and they ask the same question as Tesco.
Very first screen, and this time because I only had one of my own
bags the system accepted it.

How do you know it was because you only had one bag?

Went back to Sainsburys today, and the system rejected that same one
bag. The assistant volunteered the information that it was because it
was too heavy.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 21:14:31 on Wed,
19 Sep 2012, Graham Harrison
remarked:
The first question Tesco ask you is "Have you brought your own bag", at
which point you can put it on the bagging area and it re-calibrates the
weighing scales.
Not in my neck of the woods. It says have you brought your own bags,
press yes, put them in the bagging area and it immediately says unknown
item in bagging area.

I went to Sainsbury later, and they ask the same question as Tesco. Very
first screen, and this time because I only had one of my own bags the
system accepted it.

How do you know it was because you only had one bag?

Went back to Sainsburys today, and the system rejected that same one bag.
The assistant volunteered the information that it was because it was too
heavy.
--
Roland Perry

So it's not that one (a number) bag was rejected but that the bag you were
using was rejected.

I find that it varies by machine, not company. My local Morrisons has
rejected my backpack in the past, yesterday a machine accepted it. Have I
used that machine before? Possibly. Might they have recalibrated it
since I last used it? Possibly. Do they have a deliberate policy of
changing the acceptable weight at intervals so we don't know what weight we
can sneak into our bags? Unlikely but possibly. Does the weight of a
backpack vary? Likely, if it's been raining or I've left the spare
"longlife" shopping bag I carry in there.

On the other hand using 2 of the "longlife" bags sold by the supermarkets
never seems to cause a problem (now watch when I do that next time!).

In an ideal world all the machines in all the supermarkets would be
calibrated for precisely the same weight and be accurate at all times so
that we (customers) got consistent responses. Likelihood? 0%!