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Phil Cook October 5th 12 11:56 AM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
On 05/10/2012 09:36, d wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:58:29 +0100
Clive wrote:
In message , Charles Ellson
writes
So far, neither of the two latest seem to be confirmed suicides rather
than accident or misadventure.

On the back of a lot of our K2 Speed Notices it used to say, "Accidents
don't happen, they are caused".


Sounds like something that was written by a personal injury parasite, sorry,
solicitor.


Oh dear, have we all become so jaded by the ambulance chasers? The
sentiment behind the statement is that accidents happen because people
take their eye off the ball. Accidents don't just happen, they are
caused by lack of attention and or poor planning.
--
Phil Cook

Roland Perry October 5th 12 12:35 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
In message , at 09:23:46 on Fri, 5 Oct
2012, d remarked:

No, the Asian women in Hayes are not on social networks. The ones I'm
helping are elsewhere and not always computer experts (why would they
be?) but helping them does give an insight into the domestic violence
situation, and how many women are mistreated. And that includes these
ladies in Hayes.


So english woman who are savvy with social networks yet are under house
arrest by their husbands and don't know how to get help and apparently can't
use a phone? You're making this up as you go along.


Your comprehension skills are letting you down. But I'm tiring of trying
to explain it to you, because you don't care anyway.
--
Roland Perry

boltar2003@boltar.world October 5th 12 12:36 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:56:55 +0100
Phil Cook wrote:
Sounds like something that was written by a personal injury parasite, sorry,
solicitor.


Oh dear, have we all become so jaded by the ambulance chasers? The
sentiment behind the statement is that accidents happen because people
take their eye off the ball. Accidents don't just happen, they are
caused by lack of attention and or poor planning.


Of course they can just happen. A high speed blowout for example can happen
for any number of reasons completely out of control of the driver - a tyre
manufacturing fault, some debris blown onto the road, a recent pothole.
Anyone who thinks there's always someone to blame is either a legal
parasite or living on another planet.

B2003



Roland Perry October 5th 12 12:37 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
In message , at 11:03:18 on Fri, 5 Oct
2012, d remarked:
Sorry, but I don't think he is.
And there has been many Asians who have been kill in so-called honour
killing because they have brought 'Shame on the family' just watch the
news for a few weeks.


He said they werent asian.


No, I said the people I'm mainly dealing with, who have the social
networking issues, aren't the Asians in arranged marriages (from Hayes,
or elsewhere). But I get to hear about the latter, despite not being my
primary target audience.
--
Roland Perry

boltar2003@boltar.world October 5th 12 12:58 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:37:15 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
No, I said the people I'm mainly dealing with, who have the social
networking issues, aren't the Asians in arranged marriages (from Hayes,


So who are the people you're mainly dealing with then?

B2003



Clive October 5th 12 01:06 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
In message , Phil Cook
writes
On 05/10/2012 09:36, d wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:58:29 +0100
Clive wrote:
In message , Charles Ellson
writes
So far, neither of the two latest seem to be confirmed suicides rather
than accident or misadventure.
On the back of a lot of our K2 Speed Notices it used to say, "Accidents
don't happen, they are caused".

Sounds like something that was written by a personal injury parasite, sorry,
solicitor.

Oh dear, have we all become so jaded by the ambulance chasers? The
sentiment behind the statement is that accidents happen because people
take their eye off the ball. Accidents don't just happen, they are
caused by lack of attention and or poor planning.

Correct, remember that I'm quoting from the back of K2 Speed Notices, (I
presume they still exist but most likely under a different name) which
were issued to footplate staff weekly, in the 60s and 70s, not the
public at large and long before ambulance chasers came on the scene.
--
Clive

Phil Cook October 5th 12 01:06 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
On 05/10/2012 13:36, d wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:56:55 +0100
Phil Cook wrote:
Sounds like something that was written by a personal injury parasite, sorry,
solicitor.


Oh dear, have we all become so jaded by the ambulance chasers? The
sentiment behind the statement is that accidents happen because people
take their eye off the ball. Accidents don't just happen, they are
caused by lack of attention and or poor planning.


Of course they can just happen. A high speed blowout for example can happen
for any number of reasons completely out of control of the driver - a tyre
manufacturing fault, some debris blown onto the road, a recent pothole.
Anyone who thinks there's always someone to blame is either a legal
parasite or living on another planet.


Tyre manufacturing fault. Faults don't just happen. Caused.
Debris blown on the road. Debris left lying about. Caused.
Recent pothole. It would have to be pretty big to cause a blowout, so
unreported, unseen or uninspected. Caused.

Accidents don't just happen.
--
Phil Cook

Roland Perry October 5th 12 01:07 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
In message , at 12:58:09 on Fri, 5 Oct
2012, d remarked:
No, I said the people I'm mainly dealing with, who have the social
networking issues, aren't the Asians in arranged marriages (from Hayes,


So who are the people you're mainly dealing with then?


Victims of stalking, where one of the largest categories is an
escalation of a domestic violence situation, and where most cases now
involve an online element.

No particular ethnic group or geography, but it has recently emerged
that it's skewed towards those whose ex-partners are long term
unemployed (I suppose they also have the time to do it).
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry October 5th 12 01:13 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
In message , at 14:06:30 on Fri, 5 Oct
2012, Phil Cook remarked:
Tyre manufacturing fault. Faults don't just happen. Caused.
Debris blown on the road. Debris left lying about. Caused.
Recent pothole. It would have to be pretty big to cause a blowout, so
unreported, unseen or uninspected. Caused.

Accidents don't just happen.


And obviously, for a driver to fail to neutralise all those risks, makes
him stupid. It would take Boltar only a few minutes of his valuable
time.
--
Roland Perry

Peter Masson[_3_] October 5th 12 01:14 PM

Another Suicide at Hayes & Harlington
 
Boltar wrote in message ...

On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:56:55 +0100
Phil Cook wrote:

Oh dear, have we all become so jaded by the ambulance chasers? The
sentiment behind the statement is that accidents happen because people
take their eye off the ball. Accidents don't just happen, they are
caused by lack of attention and or poor planning.


Of course they can just happen. A high speed blowout for example can happen
for any number of reasons completely out of control of the driver - a tyre
manufacturing fault, some debris blown onto the road, a recent pothole.
Anyone who thinks there's always someone to blame is either a legal
parasite or living on another planet.


The statements are entirely compatible - the accident caused by the blowout
may not be under the control of the driver, but the tyre manufacturing fault
is caused by the manufacturer, the debris is down to whoever left it where
it could be blown on to the road, and the pothole is down to poor planning
of maintenance by the highway authority. But these may not have legal
liability, if the foreseeability of the accident was too remote, or the
manufacturing/inspection regime was deemed satisfactory.

Peter.



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