The trailer for the new Bond film has a tube train crashing into a vault
at 58 seconds in. I think it's a Jubilee Line train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mTIE4D9JM

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:18:39 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

The trailer for the new Bond film has a tube train crashing into a vault
at 58 seconds in. I think it's a Jubilee Line train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mTIE4D9JM


Is it set in the future?
The train doesn't have a driver and shows Not in Service

Dave

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:33:31 +0100
David wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:18:39 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

The trailer for the new Bond film has a tube train crashing into a vault
at 58 seconds in. I think it's a Jubilee Line train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mTIE4D9JM


Is it set in the future?
The train doesn't have a driver and shows Not in Service

Sounds like a normal rush hour to me.

B2003

On 12/10/2012 07:33, David wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:18:39 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

The trailer for the new Bond film has a tube train crashing into a vault
at 58 seconds in. I think it's a Jubilee Line train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mTIE4D9JM


Is it set in the future?
The train doesn't have a driver and shows Not in Service

Dave


What are the discerning external features between 95ts and 96ts, BTW?

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:35:02 +0100
" wrote:
On 12/10/2012 07:33, David wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:18:39 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

The trailer for the new Bond film has a tube train crashing into a vault
at 58 seconds in. I think it's a Jubilee Line train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mTIE4D9JM


Is it set in the future?
The train doesn't have a driver and shows Not in Service

Dave


What are the discerning external features between 95ts and 96ts, BTW?

One has good acceleration , one accelerates like an arthritic tortoise.
People kept on mentioning "software restrictions" or something on the northern
line trains but they've been in service for 15 odd years now and their
acceleration is still **** so I suspect the truth is the traction packs arn't
up to the job unlike the - ironically - older tech in the jubilee trains.

B2003

My son was playing Call of Duty: MW2 yesterday on the PS3 ( I bought
it for £6 ).
There is a level set on the Tube. There are no roundels, I suppose to
save money, but it's clearly also the Jubilee Line.
One can walk up close to the maps and see that stations and lines have
been renamed to what I assume is developers' names.
It's a pretty exciting game - not quite my style, though.
I prefer Chip's Challenge.

On 15/10/2012 10:07, d wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:35:02 +0100
" wrote:
What are the discerning external features between 95ts and 96ts, BTW?

One has good acceleration , one accelerates like an arthritic tortoise.
People kept on mentioning "software restrictions" or something on the northern
line trains but they've been in service for 15 odd years now and their
acceleration is still **** so I suspect the truth is the traction packs arn't
up to the job unlike the - ironically - older tech in the jubilee trains.

No, the 95TS are restricted because the Northern line hasn't yet had its
signalling system upgraded. When that happens and ATO is implemented,
then they'll be let off the leash.

(As for why it's taking so long, well government policy for years and
years was basically to ignore the need for investment in the Tube -
whilst that changed with the last lot, their solution was the flawed
Tube PPP. Also, there's so much to do that it was never going to get
sorted overnight.)

On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:23:38 +0100
Mizter T wrote:
On 15/10/2012 10:07, d wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:35:02 +0100
" wrote:
What are the discerning external features between 95ts and 96ts, BTW?

One has good acceleration , one accelerates like an arthritic tortoise.
People kept on mentioning "software restrictions" or something on the
northern
line trains but they've been in service for 15 odd years now and their
acceleration is still **** so I suspect the truth is the traction packs arn't
up to the job unlike the - ironically - older tech in the jubilee trains.

No, the 95TS are restricted because the Northern line hasn't yet had its
signalling system upgraded. When that happens and ATO is implemented,
then they'll be let off the leash.

There must be more to it than that. There's no reason they couldn't have full
acceleration but with the top speed still limited. The signalling as an
excuse makes no sense to me , there is a fixed distance between signals and
its up to the drivers how they get between them. Surely getting up to line
speed as fast as possible would benefit everyone?

B2003

In message , at 08:38:27 on Wed, 17 Oct
2012, d remarked:
No, the 95TS are restricted because the Northern line hasn't yet had its
signalling system upgraded. When that happens and ATO is implemented,
then they'll be let off the leash.

There must be more to it than that. There's no reason they couldn't have full
acceleration but with the top speed still limited. The signalling as an
excuse makes no sense to me , there is a fixed distance between signals and
its up to the drivers how they get between them. Surely getting up to line
speed as fast as possible would benefit everyone?

Not if that means you are travelling too fast (to stop) when the next
signal looms into view. And then there's the energy consumption.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:47:54 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
There must be more to it than that. There's no reason they couldn't have full
acceleration but with the top speed still limited. The signalling as an
excuse makes no sense to me , there is a fixed distance between signals and
its up to the drivers how they get between them. Surely getting up to line
speed as fast as possible would benefit everyone?

Not if that means you are travelling too fast (to stop) when the next
signal looms into view.

Thats down to driver training surely.

And then there's the energy consumption.

If that were a concern then all new trains on the system would be limited to
a snails pace. But thats not the case.

B2003