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On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:22:13 +0000
Ken Wheatley wrote: The platforms at Aldgate are on such a tight curve I doubt anything much can be done to alleviate the situation. The A stock partially solved it by having a floor higher than the platform and so allowing the floor to be wider. Of course now LU has to cater for all these fictitious wheelchair users who are flocking to the tube in droves (not) now its being made more accessable that clearly isn't possible. B2003 |
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On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:22:13 +0000 Ken Wheatley wrote: The platforms at Aldgate are on such a tight curve I doubt anything much can be done to alleviate the situation. The A stock partially solved it by having a floor higher than the platform and so allowing the floor to be wider. Of course now LU has to cater for all these fictitious wheelchair users who are flocking to the tube in droves (not) now its being made more accessable that clearly isn't possible. Perhaps more of them will, once the stations at *both* ends of their journeys are accessible? |
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:33:04 -0600
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:22:13 +0000 Ken Wheatley wrote: The platforms at Aldgate are on such a tight curve I doubt anything much can be done to alleviate the situation. The A stock partially solved it by having a floor higher than the platform and so allowing the floor to be wider. Of course now LU has to cater for all these fictitious wheelchair users who are flocking to the tube in droves (not) now its being made more accessable that clearly isn't possible. Perhaps more of them will, once the stations at *both* ends of their journeys are accessible? There are plenty of journeys available already. Has anyone seen someone in a wheelchair on the tube yet? B2003 |
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:33:04 -0600 Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:22:13 +0000 Ken Wheatley wrote: The platforms at Aldgate are on such a tight curve I doubt anything much can be done to alleviate the situation. The A stock partially solved it by having a floor higher than the platform and so allowing the floor to be wider. Of course now LU has to cater for all these fictitious wheelchair users who are flocking to the tube in droves (not) now its being made more accessable that clearly isn't possible. Perhaps more of them will, once the stations at *both* ends of their journeys are accessible? There are plenty of journeys available already. Has anyone seen someone in a wheelchair on the tube yet? Why are you so focussed on wheelchairs ? Plenty of people have problems with steps who aren't in chairs. (and steps from platform across a ruddy great gap into a train, or vice versa, still count as steps). Nick -- "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:55:25 +0000 (UTC)
Nick Leverton wrote: There are plenty of journeys available already. Has anyone seen someone in a wheelchair on the tube yet? Why are you so focussed on wheelchairs ? Plenty of people have problems I'm not, but LU are. All these changes are SPECIFICALLY for wheelchair users, not people who need a stick to walk and so on. B2003 |
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On 05/11/2012 16:52, Mike Bristow wrote:
In article , d wrote: There are plenty of journeys available already. Has anyone seen someone in a wheelchair on the tube yet? There are 66 stations which step-free from street to platform. That means that there are 66 time 65 (just over 4 thousand) possible journeys with both ends step-free. Assuming all the interchanges are step free, of course. There are 270 stations total. That means that there are 270*269 (or just over 72 thousand) possible journeys on LuL. That means that around 6% of journeys are possible step-free. If LuL wish to improve things, more power to them: 6% is dreadfully low. Remember that the design life of S-Stock is probably around 30 years - and a lot can change in that time. In the mean time, step free adaptations are mostly benifiting those with prams and luggage; for them, a step free station at one end of the journey will help as they have the option of strugling up the stairs at the other end. Well said. |
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In article , d wrote: There are plenty of journeys available already. Has anyone seen someone in a wheelchair on the tube yet? There are 66 stations which step-free from street to platform. That means that there are 66 time 65 (just over 4 thousand) possible journeys with both ends step-free. Assuming all the interchanges are step free, of course. There are 270 stations total. That means that there are 270*269 (or just over 72 thousand) possible journeys on LuL. That means that around 6% of journeys are possible step-free. If LuL wish to improve things, more power to them: 6% is dreadfully low. Remember that the design life of S-Stock is probably around 30 years - and a lot can change in that time. In the mean time, step free adaptations are mostly benifiting those with prams and luggage; for them, a step free station at one end of the journey will help as they have the option of strugling up the stairs at the other end. Actually, it's even more useful at interchange stations. When I change en route from Heathrow, having lifts at Acton Town saves me stairs both up and down when carrying a heavy suitcase. I often meet people pushing prams when doing so. |
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