London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
15:36:47 on Wed, 7 Nov 2012, remarked:

Indeed. I do sometimes wonder about Roland! The nearest one to King's
Cross and St Pancras isn't exactly far away or non-obvious either.

If it's not on the road between the two stations (a rather obvious
place to put it) then I wouldn't see it because I'm usually departing
by tube.

However, I'm more likely to be on foot near Euston, so will keep a
better lookout next time I'm there.

It's across the Euston Road in Belgrove Street. Not obvious if leaving the
area by tube, I accept, but more apparent if catching a bus. It's nearly
empty as I write. I also see it is the top docking station by avg hires per
day since install.

There are several docking stations nearer to Euston.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
20:55:34 on Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Some of my mates up north assume that almost all Londoners are in
abject poverty - at home people aspire to a decent job so that they
won't have to live in a flat or overlooking old docks.

Or in a flat overlooking old docks.

London is different in that since forever, respectable people live in flats.
Scottish cities are similar. This is like most continental cities.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In message , at 03:55:21
on Thu, 8 Nov 2012, remarked:
One big question is how to translate the ubiquitous (by UK standards)
cycling in a place like Cambridge across the country.

Making the rest of the country dryer and flatter would be a good
start.

Not necessary. Plenty of places as dry and flat as Cambridge have a fraction
of the cycling. Why?

Lack of Oxbridge-style Universities with lots of centrally accommodated
students who are banned from car use, college servants on low incomes,
and a virtually non-existent bus service for most intra-Uni journeys.
--
Roland Perry

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In message
.
net, at 08:58:54 on Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Neil Williams
remarked:

I've never stumbled over a Boris-Bike rank on my various recent trips to London[1],

You can't have looked very hard, then.

I wasn't looking for them, and have seen similar ranks (that I also
wasn't looking for) in other cities.
--
Roland Perry

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
03:55:21 on Thu, 8 Nov 2012, remarked:
One big question is how to translate the ubiquitous (by UK standards)
cycling in a place like Cambridge across the country.

Making the rest of the country dryer and flatter would be a good
start.

Not necessary. Plenty of places as dry and flat as Cambridge have a
fraction of the cycling. Why?

Lack of Oxbridge-style Universities with lots of centrally
accommodated students who are banned from car use, college servants
on low incomes, and a virtually non-existent bus service for most
intra-Uni journeys.

Oxford students aren't banned from car use. Anyway, many places had similar
cycling levels to Cambridge but declined while we didn't.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

On 08/11/2012 08:46, peter wrote:
Call me a cynic, but why am I not surprised that this announcement was
made the day the news was (predictably) full of the US election
results?

The fares increase was the top story on news bulletins on both BBC
London and LBC local radio yesterday evening (replete with spectacularly
predictable vox-pops of course). Didn't watch the local tv news
programmes but I'd imagine it got top billing yesterday.

But yes, I can well imagine the timing of the announcement was a bit of
news management. C'est la vie.

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In message , at 04:57:36
on Thu, 8 Nov 2012, remarked:
Plenty of places as dry and flat as Cambridge have a
fraction of the cycling. Why?

Lack of Oxbridge-style Universities with lots of centrally
accommodated students who are banned from car use, college servants
on low incomes, and a virtually non-existent bus service for most
intra-Uni journeys.

Oxford students aren't banned from car use.

They don't need to be - parking in the City is virtually impossible
already.

Anyway, many places had similar cycling levels to Cambridge but
declined while we didn't.

Because those patches of cycling were caused by other effects, such as
low-paid factory workers (whose factories are probably closed now).
--
Roland Perry

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:01:32 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
But yes, I can well imagine the timing of the announcement was a bit of
news management. C'est la vie.

Poor old Boris, the media didn't ignore it as he'd hoped. Steven Hendy was
dragged onto LBC yesterday to justify it but he ended up just getting tied in
knots by Nick Ferrari. If he hadn't been such an obvious lacky I might have
felt sorry for him.

B2003

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:36:47 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:16:03 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

I've never stumbled over a Boris-Bike rank on my various recent trips to
London[1], nor of course would I impose a bike on my fellow travellers
on the train to London.

Goodness - never? They were deliberately located away from Main Line
stations so that will explain why you might not have immediately seen
one at St Pancras. However I fall across the things all over Zone 1.

Indeed. I do sometimes wonder about Roland! The nearest one to King's Cross
and St Pancras isn't exactly far away or non-obvious either.

One thought is that the docking stations aren't very obvious if
they're empty, so maybe he's only passed empty ones?

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

In message of Thu, 8 Nov
2012 03:55:21 in uk.transport.london,
writes

[snip]

It's across the Euston Road in Belgrove Street. Not obvious if leaving the
area by tube, I accept, but more apparent if catching a bus. It's nearly
empty as I write. I also see it is the top docking station by avg hires per
day since install.

[snip]

Colin,
Where do you find such statistics?
--
Walter Briscoe