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[email protected] November 9th 12 07:46 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
16:02:35 on Thu, 8 Nov 2012,
remarked:

That's annoying too, but happens much less frequently.


You'd be surprised. There are traffic lights in Cambridge I see motorists
jumping almost every time I pass them.


I've not seen a motorist jump any of the lights in Ely since I moved
here, but cyclists frequently ignore them just like they do elsewhere.


And when I was cycling across Ely recently (from the station to the Football
Club since you ask) I didn't see a single cyclist ignoring traffic lights.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] November 9th 12 08:42 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:51:36 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
Poor old Boris, the media didn't ignore it as he'd hoped. Steven Hendy was
dragged onto LBC yesterday to justify it but he ended up just getting tied in
knots by Nick Ferrari. If he hadn't been such an obvious lacky I might have
felt sorry for him.


Do you mean Peter Hendy or someone else? I would be surprised if


Yes, peter hendy.

Peter Hendy got tied up in knots by Nick Ferrari. Mr F is hardly the
most troublesome or assertive of broadcasters in my limited


I guess you don't listen to him much. Sometimes he can be a right sod. Depends
what mood he's in.

experience. It's why he is Boris's preferred broadcaster alongside
Vanessa Feltz who both stroke his ego rather than challenge him on his
record.


Well they are both on london stations and boris is allegedly mayor of london
though sometimes you have to wonder.

B2003


tim..... November 9th 12 08:51 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 16:10:17 on Thu, 8 Nov
2012, Mizter T remarked:
Serious, straightforward question - do you think cycling on the road
is inherently a bad thing?

It's a good thing. Most of my issues with cyclists are when they on
the
pavement, pretending to be pedestrians on various crossings, and of
course ignoring almost any kind of traffic sign (especially ones that
say "no cycling").

What do you think about motorists ignoring almost any kind of traffic
sign?


That's annoying too, but happens much less frequently.


You'd be surprised. There are traffic lights in Cambridge I see motorists
jumping almost every time I pass them.


And I'm probably the only person ever to have drive in Cambridge in the 21st
century who obeys the yellow hatchings.

tim




Roland Perry November 9th 12 10:06 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
In message , at 02:46:40
on Fri, 9 Nov 2012, remarked:
And when I was cycling across Ely recently (from the station to the Football
Club since you ask) I didn't see a single cyclist ignoring traffic lights.


You probably only passed Pelican/Toucan crossings, but you don't have to
stand next to one very long to see cyclists whizzing through them at
red. Especially the one by the station when a London train is due in the
morning.

Oddly enough, lots of cars treat the one by the station as a zebra, and
stop to let pedestrians across even when green. Can be very confusing!
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] November 9th 12 10:16 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:06:47 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 02:46:40
on Fri, 9 Nov 2012, remarked:
And when I was cycling across Ely recently (from the station to the Football
Club since you ask) I didn't see a single cyclist ignoring traffic lights.


You probably only passed Pelican/Toucan crossings, but you don't have to
stand next to one very long to see cyclists whizzing through them at
red. Especially the one by the station when a London train is due in the
morning.

Oddly enough, lots of cars treat the one by the station as a zebra, and
stop to let pedestrians across even when green. Can be very confusing!


If its very slow traffic I'll do that. There's no reason not to let people
cross if your car can only move forward a few metres anyway.

B2003



[email protected] November 12th 12 08:45 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:17:55 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
Well yes but Boris refuses to be interviewed by the likes of Tim
Donovan of the BBC as he knows where the skeletons are hidden in
Boris's cupboard. For all the interesting statements about scrutiny,
openness and transparency you only have to see BJ's performance at
Mayor's Questions to start having doubts. The last couple of MQTs
were woeful and as for the new Policing arrangements well they are
beyond a joke even allowing for some inexperience on that part of the
Deputy Mayor for Policing, Mr Greenhalgh.


Can't say I'm surprised. Boris being major is all about Boris, not london
and behind all that what-ho jolly japes bluster is a calculating but lazy
politician with a rather thin skin. I suppose we have to be thankful that
the position of major hasn't given him or livingston enough power to do any
serious damage.

B2003


Recliner[_2_] November 12th 12 09:19 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:17:55 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
Well yes but Boris refuses to be interviewed by the likes of Tim
Donovan of the BBC as he knows where the skeletons are hidden in
Boris's cupboard. For all the interesting statements about scrutiny,
openness and transparency you only have to see BJ's performance at
Mayor's Questions to start having doubts. The last couple of MQTs
were woeful and as for the new Policing arrangements well they are
beyond a joke even allowing for some inexperience on that part of the
Deputy Mayor for Policing, Mr Greenhalgh.


Can't say I'm surprised. Boris being major is all about Boris, not london
and behind all that what-ho jolly japes bluster is a calculating but lazy
politician with a rather thin skin. I suppose we have to be thankful that
the position of major hasn't given him or livingston enough power to do any
serious damage.

"Major" Boris? Actually, I believe that Boris isn't as lazy as he seems,
but he's also not a details man.

[email protected] November 12th 12 09:31 AM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:19:47 -0600
Recliner wrote:
Can't say I'm surprised. Boris being major is all about Boris, not london
and behind all that what-ho jolly japes bluster is a calculating but lazy
politician with a rather thin skin. I suppose we have to be thankful that
the position of major hasn't given him or livingston enough power to do any
serious damage.

"Major" Boris? Actually, I believe that Boris isn't as lazy as he seems,
but he's also not a details man.


Looks like I'm having a bad spelling day. Or perhaps freudian slip!
"Mayor" Boris certainly isn't lazy when it comes to promoting himself or his
latest daft wheeze, but he doesn't seem that interested in talking about
anything that can't be used for self promotion or might be have negative
publicity. Eg the latest fare rises. I haven't noticed him in the media giving
us a good explanation of why we have be getting yet another above RPI rise.
He leaves his lackys to step into that firing line.

B2003


[email protected] November 12th 12 03:10 PM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:06:04 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
It was interesting that Isabel Dedring, Deputy Mayor for Transport,
was left to take the flak from Tim Donovan on the BBC's Sunday
Politics show yesterday. I did ponder how Boris would have performed
under Mr D's onslaught of questions and concluded that he would have
found it pretty tough. Ms Dedring did OK-ish but was rather evasive


Lots of huffing and puffing and bluster followed by the standard cornered
politician approach of just repeating policy instead of answering the
question.

B2003


Mizter T November 12th 12 04:37 PM

London bus and Tube fares go up 4.2% from January
 

On 12/11/2012 14:06, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:31:52 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
[...]
Looks like I'm having a bad spelling day. Or perhaps freudian slip!
"Mayor" Boris certainly isn't lazy when it comes to promoting himself or his
latest daft wheeze, but he doesn't seem that interested in talking about
anything that can't be used for self promotion or might be have negative
publicity. Eg the latest fare rises. I haven't noticed him in the media giving
us a good explanation of why we have be getting yet another above RPI rise.
He leaves his lackys to step into that firing line.


It was interesting that Isabel Dedring, Deputy Mayor for Transport,
was left to take the flak from Tim Donovan on the BBC's Sunday
Politics show yesterday. I did ponder how Boris would have performed
under Mr D's onslaught of questions and concluded that he would have
found it pretty tough. Ms Dedring did OK-ish but was rather evasive
on a few points.


The absurd notion that Bozza could one day be PM can't come from anyone
who's witnessed either his evasive answering to question sessions (MQT
etc), nor noted his evasiveness in avoiding being questioned if he can
help it (shunning Donovan and anyone else who might ask actual
questions). As a PM one has to answer questions - observe for example
the disapproval from many MPs including Tories directed at Cameron for
refusing to answer Chris Bryant MP's questions about Cameron's text
message exchanges with Rebekah Brooks (of News International) - it's
just not the done thing.

Still I guess the Tory right wing need to have their fantasies to keep
them happy - that is despite the fact that Boris's politics are really
quite as in alignment with their own as they might wish!


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