I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

Many thanks

In article ,
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will require
9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will my oyster
card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap of the
amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible.

I suppose there is the OSI issue where you might in some cases get an
unintentional continuation of your previous journey, which may or may not
cause problems later on. Is the OP using PAYG or an Oyster travelcard ?

Nick
--
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will require
9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will my oyster
card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap of the
amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

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,
(Recliner) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will
require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will
my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap
of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will require
9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will my oyster
card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap of the
amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

I suspect this inanimate object will spot nothing at all

tim

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In article
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(Recliner) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will
require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will
my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap
of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom
Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey
history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that doesn't
get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be used on
buses outside of London.

tim

"tim....." wrote:
wrote in message
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In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will
require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will
my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap
of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be used
on buses outside of London.

Correct. It's a London-only free Oyster photocard that is otherwise similar
to a Freedom Pass. It came in at the beginning of this month (a Boris
election pledge). See http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/25830.aspx

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(tim.....) wrote:

wrote in message
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In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom
Oyster cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've
saved. Do you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the
gates without doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a
query-able journey history like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me
doing some strange ones as I take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be
used on buses outside of London.

Huh? I have a (Cambridgeshire) bus pass and don't get a pension. I can use
it anywhere in the country.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
In article ,
(tim.....) wrote:

wrote in message
...
In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom
Oyster cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've
saved. Do you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the
gates without doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a
query-able journey history like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me
doing some strange ones as I take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be
used on buses outside of London.

Huh? I have a (Cambridgeshire) bus pass and don't get a pension. I can use
it anywhere in the country.

The bus pass age is linked to the female retirement age, so it's currently
~61.5. People over that age are entitled to it, but any Londoner over 60
but under that rising age can now have the new 60+ free Oystercard (which,
of course, also includes 24 hour access to all TfL services, and off-peak
access to all rail services in London).

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:19:33 -0600, Recliner
wrote:

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards,

Lucky you!

and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

My guess, as I don't know how the card has been specified, is that it
is coded as a "Permit" just like a Freedom Pass. It has the same
London area validity but is not an English Concessionary Pass so it
will not have the english rose symbol printed on it. I don't know
whether London Freedom Passes are now both Oyster and ITSO compatible
but if so then I would expect the 60+ Oyster (your card) to just be
Oyster compatible.

Permits act like a season ticket within the area, times and modes
specified. They are not able to have a PAYG purse working alongside.
This question has been raised many times in Mayor's Questions due to
the lack of 24 hour availability on National Rail services for Freedom
Passes and the answer has always been "your constituent must obtain a
separate Oyster PAYG card and pay fares before 0930 M-F".

Permits should be readable by a ticket office machine operated by a
ticket clerk but I am not certain if journey history is displayed if
you tap the card at a passenger ticket machine (POM). I think my old
TfL Staff Pass could be read at a POM so it's possible the basic (last
10) journey details would be displayed as that's what on the card.

It will not show what the fare would have been for the journey you've
done - it has no reason to calculate a fare. You'll need to record
your journeys and work out the fares and daily caps yourself. I've
done this for the Travelcard I currently have and it's been an
instructive exercise when you compare it to what would have happened
if I'd done the same journeys on PAYG and been capped.

No harm in you tapping your card on an Oyster pad at a POM and seeing
what Journey History brings up.

Thanks for the info. Do you know what would happen if I tried to use it to
enter a NR station before 9:30? Would it open the gate? And what happens
if it's an ungated station with an Oyster reader?

Having one will certainly change my journey patterns.