Paul Corfield wrote in
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:50:31 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

With the bus strike in north london today they've been saying on the
radio that bus passes will be accepted on reasonable alternative
routes.

What bus passes? I thought it was either Oyster or cash now. Or are
there special bus only Oyster cards?

There is a 7 day, monthly or longer Bus and Tram Pass. This is issued
on an Oyster Card. The Daily Bus Pass has been replaced by the PAYG
cap for bus and tram travel.

Bus saver tickets may still be in circulation as people could
obviously still hold stocks of them and they can be purchased by
businesses on a corporate sales basis.

There are also people like me who live outside the London boundary and have
a local authority bus pass valid on London buses (but not tube or train).

Peter

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On 30/11/2012 09:26, Robin wrote:

Instead of a weekly bus pass people could buy a ( for example ) zone
2/3 weekly Tube travelcard for almost the same price; this could be
used on the Tube in those zones and on every London bus.

Yep - but I bet there are still plenty of people who need buses to get
to and from work and to whom the extra £3.20 a week would be
significant.

Agreed - if one is never (or hardly ever) going to take advantage of
this, then it's money down the drain.

It is potentially v useful for those who might find it advantageous.

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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:13:45 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
entry #2 (although the term is also in common use in London).

I've never heard it. *shrug*

Used to hear it all though my teens when waiting for a morning bus

tim

On 29/11/2012 09:50, d wrote:
With the bus strike in north london today they've been saying on the radio
that bus passes will be accepted on reasonable alternative routes.

What bus passes? I thought it was either Oyster or cash now. Or are there
special bus only Oyster cards?

B2003



How about senior citizens bus passes issued from outside London.

In article ,
(Tony Dragon) wrote:

On 29/11/2012 09:50, d wrote:
With the bus strike in north london today they've been saying on the
radio that bus passes will be accepted on reasonable alternative routes.

What bus passes? I thought it was either Oyster or cash now. Or are
there special bus only Oyster cards?

How about senior citizens bus passes issued from outside London.

They seem to be dealt with entirely manually, being ITSO and not Oyster.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 01/12/2012 13:17, wrote:
In article ,
(Tony Dragon) wrote:

On 29/11/2012 09:50, d wrote:
With the bus strike in north london today they've been saying on the
radio that bus passes will be accepted on reasonable alternative routes.

What bus passes? I thought it was either Oyster or cash now. Or are
there special bus only Oyster cards?

How about senior citizens bus passes issued from outside London.

They seem to be dealt with entirely manually, being ITSO and not Oyster.


Indeed, but the OP said 'bus passes'.

In article ,
(Tony Dragon) wrote:

On 01/12/2012 13:17, wrote:
In article ,
(Tony Dragon) wrote:

On 29/11/2012 09:50, d wrote:
With the bus strike in north london today they've been saying on the
radio that bus passes will be accepted on reasonable alternative
routes.

What bus passes? I thought it was either Oyster or cash now. Or are
there special bus only Oyster cards?

How about senior citizens bus passes issued from outside London.

They seem to be dealt with entirely manually, being ITSO and not
Oyster.

Indeed, but the OP said 'bus passes'.

National old people's bus passes outside London are issued on ITSO smart
cards which can't be read on London buses.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:57:10 -0600,
wrote:


National old people's bus passes outside London are issued on ITSO smart
cards which can't be read on London buses.

My London Freedom Pass can be read on Arriva buses in Liverpool. How
does this work?
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John Ray

In article ,
(John Ray) wrote:

On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:57:10 -0600, wrote:

National old people's bus passes outside London are issued on ITSO smart
cards which can't be read on London buses.

My London Freedom Pass can be read on Arriva buses in Liverpool. How
does this work?

Perhaps it has both Oyster and ITSO functionality. I thought that was the
London plan when the national bus pass scheme was rolled out.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message of Sun, 2 Dec
2012 09:13:22 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield
writes

[snip]

The London system is being upgraded, by a DfT funded project, so that
all Oyster readers can read ITSO spec cards. Therefore concessionary
passes issued elsewhere in England will be read by London bus readers.
NOTE that this does NOT mean that bus concessionary passes will work
on the tube, rail or DLR - they won't as they are not valid.

I think it does mean that such additional validity could be simple to
implement, given the political will.

This London Council Tax payer and Freedom Pass holder would like to see
symmetrical validity. Let Northumberland seniors travel free by London
Tube and let me travel free on buses and Glasgow Subway in Scotland.

OTOH, we don't even have symmetrical validity in London. I can go to
Dartford with a Freedom Pass, but not with Oyster PAYG. I saw many
Oyster customers tripped and trapped at that gateline, when I went there
one afternoon. Even worse, was finding someone had gone between Waterloo
and Hersham with PAYG and risked a criminal record. Travel beyond
Surbiton is not covered.] I was astounded that the Oyster Customer
Service Centre cancelled the incomplete journey charges.
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Walter Briscoe