New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

In article ,
(Charles Ellson) wrote:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:22:54 -0800 (PST), e27002
wrote:

On 29 Nov, 20:55, wrote:
In article
,

(e27002) wrote:
On 29 Nov, 13:09, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Has appeared here on
flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaggers/8228777689/

Seems a reasonably useful version given the space available - and
it clearly shows the difference between through services and
branches etc.

(Which is more than can be said for that ridiculous circular idea
someone came up with that's often linked to...)

It is OK. *It is a pity we cannot have two or three fleets covering a
subset of Overground services. *These trains could then carry simpler
maps covering the are served.

Are the actual sub-classes split rigidly between the bits of the
network anyway? For example are there now some dual voltage units in
regular use on the East London?

Can dual voltage stock reaches the East London section, and its
branches to the south?

Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Things would be clearer if there was a picture taken along platform 7 in the
other direction. I've got the shot but not on the web.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:09:33 -0600,
wrote:

The line runs on from the DC platforms 7 & 8.

No, the DC lines are 1 and 2 (the original North London Line
platforms), the AC lines are 7 (westbound) and 8 (eastbound).
Platforms 2 and 7 are an island.

Looking at some pictures I
took I see that the overhead starts by the footbridge at the West end of
platform 7 and the third rail stops at the Car Stop board. Platform 8 is a
dead end. I wonder how much use it gets?

Platform 1 is the dead end. I've wondered about the layout at
the west end of platform 2 where the DC and AC don't overlap. I
have no knowledge as to whether it is used as you describe but
if not that then what?
--
Roger

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:48:37 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Charles Ellson) wrote:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:22:54 -0800 (PST), e27002
wrote:

Can dual voltage stock reaches the East London section, and its
branches to the south?

Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Things would be clearer if there was a picture taken along platform 7 in the
other direction. I've got the shot but not on the web.

You mean platform 2.
--
Roger

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:48:37 -0600,
wrote:

In article , (Jack
Taylor) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in message
...
Are the actual sub-classes split rigidly between the bits of the network
anyway? For example are there now some dual voltage units in regular use
on the East London?

Yes, it's happened regularly since the a.c. services commenced. Most
days there is at least one 378/2 working on the ELL.

And presumably more from 9th December?

Why? Queens Road Peckham to Clapham Junction is DC. Have they
put some AC between Surrey Quays and Queens Road Peckham?
--
Roger

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote:
Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Looking at the line on the left the 3rd rail presumably stops halfway
down the platform, long before the overhead starts. This was obviously
done deliberately but why? Surely it means anything electric has to be
dragged to and from the 25kv and 3rd rail sections unless the driver gets some
speed up first and hopes for the best!

B2003

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On 30/11/2012 10:03, d wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0000
Charles wrote:
Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Looking at the line on the left the 3rd rail presumably stops halfway
down the platform, long before the overhead starts. This was obviously
done deliberately but why? Surely it means anything electric has to be
dragged to and from the 25kv and 3rd rail sections unless the driver gets some
speed up first and hopes for the best!


Except the right hand line has third rail at least up to the bridge the
photo was taken from. Very strange

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:20:39 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 30/11/2012 10:03, d wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0000
Charles wrote:
Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Looking at the line on the left the 3rd rail presumably stops halfway
down the platform, long before the overhead starts. This was obviously
done deliberately but why? Surely it means anything electric has to be
dragged to and from the 25kv and 3rd rail sections unless the driver gets
some
speed up first and hopes for the best!


Except the right hand line has third rail at least up to the bridge the
photo was taken from. Very strange

Thats the dead end track isn't it?

B2003

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:20:39 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 30/11/2012 10:03, d wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0000
Charles wrote:
Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Looking at the line on the left the 3rd rail presumably stops halfway
down the platform, long before the overhead starts. This was obviously
done deliberately but why? Surely it means anything electric has to be
dragged to and from the 25kv and 3rd rail sections unless the driver gets
some
speed up first and hopes for the best!


Except the right hand line has third rail at least up to the bridge the
photo was taken from. Very strange

Thats the dead end track isn't it?


The right hand line ends in a buffer stop under the bridge from which the
photo was taken. The left hand line continues as the transfer line between
the ELL and the NLL. This is currently OOU, but for it to be used there will
either have to be an AC/DC interface, or anything using it will have to be
dragged by a diseasel.

Platform numbering at Highbury & Islington is bizarre. The ELL platforms (in
the photograph) are 1 and 2. The NLL platforms are 7 and 8 (the central
island is 2 and 7). 3-6 are the low level platforms for the Victoria Line
and the Northern City (Moorgate) line.

Peter

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:47:56 -0000
"Peter Masson" wrote:
The right hand line ends in a buffer stop under the bridge from which the
photo was taken. The left hand line continues as the transfer line between
the ELL and the NLL. This is currently OOU, but for it to be used there will
either have to be an AC/DC interface, or anything using it will have to be
dragged by a diseasel.

It seems very bizarre to have a short section of unelectrified line on an
otherwise electrified system especially when its the obvious place for stock
transfer. Unless for some reason they required complete electrical seperation
between the AC and DC sections.

B2003

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On 30/11/2012 11:35, d wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:20:39 +0000
Graeme wrote:
On 30/11/2012 10:03, d wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0000
Charles wrote:
Yes :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/5490835946/

Looking at the line on the left the 3rd rail presumably stops halfway
down the platform, long before the overhead starts. This was obviously
done deliberately but why? Surely it means anything electric has to be
dragged to and from the 25kv and 3rd rail sections unless the driver gets
some
speed up first and hopes for the best!


Except the right hand line has third rail at least up to the bridge the
photo was taken from. Very strange

Thats the dead end track isn't it?


Don't know the station that well I'm afraid. I was last there long
before LOROL.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail