New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

In article ,
lid (Roger) wrote:

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:09:33 -0600,
wrote:

The line runs on from the DC platforms 7 & 8.

No, the DC lines are 1 and 2 (the original North London Line
platforms), the AC lines are 7 (westbound) and 8 (eastbound).
Platforms 2 and 7 are an island.

Looking at some pictures I
took I see that the overhead starts by the footbridge at the West end of
platform 7 and the third rail stops at the Car Stop board. Platform 8 is
a dead end. I wonder how much use it gets?

Platform 1 is the dead end. I've wondered about the layout at
the west end of platform 2 where the DC and AC don't overlap. I
have no knowledge as to whether it is used as you describe but
if not that then what?

Yes, sorry, you are right. I misread my photo.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:47:56 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:

The right hand line ends in a buffer stop under the bridge from which the
photo was taken. The left hand line continues as the transfer line between
the ELL and the NLL. This is currently OOU, but for it to be used there will
either have to be an AC/DC interface, or anything using it will have to be
dragged by a diseasel.

The line which extends to the west from platform 2 is certainly
not in use. I was lurking along Liverpool Road and looked over
the wall on the west side. There is a piece of wood (an old
sleeper?) tied down across the track by signal NL 1238. I've
seen it before but I don't know when it was put there.
--
Roger

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

In article ,
lid (Roger) wrote:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:47:56 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:

The right hand line ends in a buffer stop under the bridge from which the
photo was taken. The left hand line continues as the transfer line
between the ELL and the NLL. This is currently OOU, but for it to be used
there will either have to be an AC/DC interface, or anything using it
will have to be dragged by a diseasel.

The line which extends to the west from platform 2 is certainly
not in use. I was lurking along Liverpool Road and looked over
the wall on the west side. There is a piece of wood (an old
sleeper?) tied down across the track by signal NL 1238. I've
seen it before but I don't know when it was put there.

It's not in my photos, taken 4th July 2011.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 09:32:33 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Roger) wrote:

The line which extends to the west from platform 2 is certainly
not in use. I was lurking along Liverpool Road and looked over
the wall on the west side. There is a piece of wood (an old
sleeper?) tied down across the track by signal NL 1238. I've
seen it before but I don't know when it was put there.

It's not in my photos, taken 4th July 2011.

Was the signal there then?
--
Roger

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

In article ,
lid (Roger) wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 09:32:33 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Roger) wrote:

The line which extends to the west from platform 2 is certainly
not in use. I was lurking along Liverpool Road and looked over
the wall on the west side. There is a piece of wood (an old
sleeper?) tied down across the track by signal NL 1238. I've
seen it before but I don't know when it was put there.

It's not in my photos, taken 4th July 2011.

Was the signal there then?

Yes, EL318, and a 20 limit disc.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:42:20 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Roger) wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 09:32:33 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Roger) wrote:

The line which extends to the west from platform 2 is certainly
not in use. I was lurking along Liverpool Road and looked over
the wall on the west side. There is a piece of wood (an old
sleeper?) tied down across the track by signal NL 1238. I've
seen it before but I don't know when it was put there.

It's not in my photos, taken 4th July 2011.

Was the signal there then?

Yes, EL318, and a 20 limit disc.

I'm referring to NL 1238 on the west side of Liverpool Road.
(For those that don't know Highbury & Islington station can be
seen looking over the wall on the east side of Liverpool Road.)
Where is EL 318? I'm not going signal hunting in the dark! I'll
look out for it next time I'm in the area during the day.
--
Roger

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

In article ,
lid (Roger) wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:42:20 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Roger) wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 09:32:33 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,
(Roger) wrote:

The line which extends to the west from platform 2 is certainly
not in use. I was lurking along Liverpool Road and looked over
the wall on the west side. There is a piece of wood (an old
sleeper?) tied down across the track by signal NL 1238. I've
seen it before but I don't know when it was put there.

It's not in my photos, taken 4th July 2011.

Was the signal there then?

Yes, EL318, and a 20 limit disc.

I'm referring to NL 1238 on the west side of Liverpool Road.
(For those that don't know Highbury & Islington station can be
seen looking over the wall on the east side of Liverpool Road.)
Where is EL 318? I'm not going signal hunting in the dark! I'll
look out for it next time I'm in the area during the day.

On platform 2 just before the overbridge which also supports the end of the
overhead line.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

wrote in message
...

It is OK. It is a pity we cannot have two or three fleets covering a
subset of Overground services. These trains could then carry simpler
maps covering the are served.

Are the actual sub-classes split rigidly between the bits of the network
anyway? For example are there now some dual voltage units in egular use
on the East London?

Not at all split rigidly.

As you probably know, there was originally a discrete number of DC
only units ordered, and this fleet was sized for the original ELL, ie
before the Highbury extension. All the subsequent orders (as the
extensions were approved) were for dual voltage stock, and they can
and do go anywhere on the overall electrified network.

Hence all the dual voltage units need the full map.

I decided to take Boris' M25 all the way round as I had time to spare in
London yesterday. In fact all the DC-only units seem to have the new maps
and most of the DV units don't have the Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction
link on their maps yet.

I had some business in Putney and then went to Clapham Junction. The first
departure advertised, at 13:29, was to Highbury and Islington so I got on
that on platform 2. In fact the 13:31 to Stratford left first but never
mind. The change is easier at Highbury the way round I took. While at
Highbury I photographed the connection to the AC route which is clearly
still not commissioned, unchanged since I took photos there in July last
year.

After I got back to Clapham Junction I went to Battersea Park. The subway to
Platform 1 is now taped off with a sign "Please not as from Sunday 09th
December there will be no more direct trains to Peckham Rye, if you require
a service to Peckham Rye you will have to go via Clapham Junction". The
platform indicator says "***PLATFORM CLOSED*** This platform is no longer in
passenger use." Platform 2 has no advertised services. I suspect the Parly
may use it. Both tracks through platforms 1 and 2 seem still to be in
regular use. I caught the continuing Victoria-London Bridge service from
platform 3 as far as Crystal Palace.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

Apropos just of the new route. at Dalston Junction today there was a
great announcement along the lines of: "The xxxx service to Clapham
Junction has been cancelled due to an unknown reason subject to ongoing
investigation".

E.

New LO in car line diagram for ELLX Phase 2
 

On 2012-12-13 22:04:15 +0000, Paul Corfield said:

On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:40:47 +0000, eastender
wrote:

Apropos just of the new route. at Dalston Junction today there was a
great announcement along the lines of: "The xxxx service to Clapham
Junction has been cancelled due to an unknown reason subject to ongoing
investigation".

"we ain't got no clue, innit"

What got me is that this sounded like a prerecorded announcement - I'd
take my hat off to the person who wrote this if it weren't so cold.

E.