"77002" wrote in message
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Its a pity the tube doesn't have local and express lines like the new
york
subway. I know the met sort of has them but its not really the same thing
since its way out of the centre.

This is something that could have been considered for Crossrail.
Crossrail could have had more stations, with express trains skipping
the "local" stations.

Of course costs would have risen exponentially.

Essentially Crossrail is the express service and the Central line is the
local service. Slightly different from New York as they don't follow each
other exactly but the same basic idea.

Peter Smyth

On 04/12/2012 17:56, tim..... wrote:

"D7666" wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 3:01 pm, "tim....." wrote:


I can't understand why they don't open this sort of thing as a permanent
museum.


I museum of what ?

1940s London, with or without the war connection




Another one?

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

"Paul Rigg" wrote in message
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"Brian Watson" wrote in message
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"Paul Rigg" wrote in message
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In the second picture the Station Closed signs partly obscure the letters
"A
N"


S T R A N D - original name of station

Thanks (too).

I'm glad you appreciate it bearing in mind the stick I got for answering
your question. -

I do, very much :-)

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

77002 writes:

On 4 Dec, 12:18, wrote:
Crossrail should have gone with double decker trains. The bullet should just
have been bitten and regauge all the pre-existing lines it'll run on to
UIC gauge. It would cost a lot in the short term but the long term gains would
almost certainly make it worth it.

That would probably have lengthened load/unloading times.

What are the relative loading/unloading times for Paris double-deck vs
single-deck RER services?

On 06/12/2012 11:51, Graham Murray wrote:
writes:

On 4 Dec, 12:18, wrote:
Crossrail should have gone with double decker trains. The bullet should just
have been bitten and regauge all the pre-existing lines it'll run on to
UIC gauge. It would cost a lot in the short term but the long term gains would
almost certainly make it worth it.

That would probably have lengthened load/unloading times.

What are the relative loading/unloading times for Paris double-deck vs
single-deck RER services?

Don't know about Paris but dwell times for Dutch DD stock are noticeably
longer than for the conventional metro stock on the next platform.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

"Graham Murray" wrote in message
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77002 writes:

On 4 Dec, 12:18, wrote:
Crossrail should have gone with double decker trains. The bullet should
just
have been bitten and regauge all the pre-existing lines it'll run on to
UIC gauge. It would cost a lot in the short term but the long term gains
would
almost certainly make it worth it.

That would probably have lengthened load/unloading times.

What are the relative loading/unloading times for Paris double-deck vs
single-deck RER services?

AIUI they tried double deckers to fix their capacity problems on the Munich
S-bahn. And for short stops in town use, they don't work

People wont go upstairs to sit down for two stops, they just stand in the
lobby making the train full when it isn't really.

You cannot increase the capacity of the kind of line that Crossrail is,
using these trains

tim

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:45:37 -0000
"tim....." wrote:
You cannot increase the capacity of the kind of line that Crossrail is,
using these trains

Except crossrail isn't intended to be used for short 2 station hops - it's
for people travelling in from the commuter belt who would be quite happy to
go upstairs. How many people use Thameslink in central london to go a couple
of stops? Not many.

B2003

wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:45:37 -0000
"tim....." wrote:
You cannot increase the capacity of the kind of line that Crossrail is,
using these trains

Except crossrail isn't intended to be used for short 2 station hops

But in the centre it will be.

Just so you understand the similarity.

Crossrail looks exactly like the Munich S-banh.

Just like people get off their long distance trains at Hbf or Ost and onto
the S-bahn to continue their journey 2 stops into the centre, people will
get off their long distance trains at Padd and LSt and continue their
journey two stops on Crossrail

tim

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:36:38 -0000
"tim....." wrote:
Just like people get off their long distance trains at Hbf or Ost and onto
the S-bahn to continue their journey 2 stops into the centre, people will
get off their long distance trains at Padd and LSt and continue their
journey two stops on Crossrail

Not if they make the stations as inconvenient as the new thameslink station
at St P. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

B2003

In message , at 14:15:21 on Thu, 6 Dec
2012, d remarked:
How many people use Thameslink in central london to go a couple
of stops? Not many.

I used to use it between Kings Cross and City quite frequently (to visit
an office right by the latter station), especially as there's no obvious
tube line paralleling it. Sometimes I walked back to Farringdon and got
the tube, though.
--
Roland Perry