London Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

On 10 Dec, 12:59, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 10 December 2012 12:34:47 ...

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:26:39 -0000
"Peter Masson" wrote:
Boltar wrote

I'm sorry but terminating the JLE at stratford was down to nothing more
than
money or lack thereof, don't pretend there was any great plan.

The motivations for the JLE route were serving Canary Wharf from Waterloo,
serving Canary Wharf from Stratford (DLR did not have enough capacity), the

The DLR had and has plenty of capacity mainly because it has a much more
frequent service.

Not true. *The Jubilee from Stratford to Canary Wharf has 24 tph in the
peaks; the DLR from Stratford to Canary Wharf has 10 tph with
lower-capacity trains, and is limited by part of the route being
single-track.


The NLL could have been upgraded for longer, more frequent trains and
diverted under the river. An Interchange with a Jubilee extension to
Thamsmead would have been entirely possible.

London Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:20:56AM +0000, d wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:39:14 -0000
"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
It provides a direct link from east to south London
Which is probably used by no one. I suspect the vast majority of people who
get on at stratford get off at canary wharf.

You've not seen the platforms at London Bridge during the rush hour have
you.

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London Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:26:32AM +0000, d wrote:

Why would anyone use the jubilee from stratford to go west when they can
just get on the central line?

You might as well ask why would anyone use the Central Line from Notting
Hill Gate to go east when they can use the Circle Line. The Central
Line is obviously pointless and should be closed immediately on those
grounds. And if they want to go west they can use the District Line.
The Central Line should therefore be closed *twice*!

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If your idea had been adopted, the service via Silvertown to South London
would have been an extension of the current service between Stratford
and Richmond. Upgrading for longer trains would have meant platform
lengthening at all stations. An attractive idea but very expensive.

I have. They're packed even though trains run at three minute intervals.

London Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:16:57 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:26:32AM +0000, d wrote:

Why would anyone use the jubilee from stratford to go west when they can
just get on the central line?

You might as well ask why would anyone use the Central Line from Notting
Hill Gate to go east when they can use the Circle Line. The Central
Line is obviously pointless and should be closed immediately on those
grounds. And if they want to go west they can use the District Line.
The Central Line should therefore be closed *twice*!

Way to go on getting the analogy arse about face. The jubilee line IS the
circle line in that one.

B2003

Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

Robin9 wrote:
77002;134875 Wrote:

The NLL could have been upgraded for longer, more frequent trains and
diverted under the river. An Interchange with a Jubilee extension to
Thamsmead would have been entirely possible.

If your idea had been adopted, the service via Silvertown to South
London
would have been an extension of the current service between Stratford
and Richmond. Upgrading for longer trains would have meant platform
lengthening at all stations. An attractive idea but very expensive.

It would also have got in the way of Crossrail.

Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

On 12 Dec, 17:17, Robin9 wrote:
77002;134875 Wrote:



The NLL could have been upgraded for longer, more frequent trains and
diverted under the river. *An Interchange with a Jubilee extension to
Thamsmead would have been entirely possible.

If your idea had been adopted, the service via Silvertown to South
London
would have been an extension of the current service between Stratford
and Richmond. Upgrading for longer trains would have meant platform
lengthening at all stations. An attractive idea but very expensive.

Not so, the NLL would have continued south under the Thames to North
Greenwich and Westcombe Park instead of Turning East towards North
Woolwich.

The North Woolwich route would then be have been available for the
Jubilee connection to Thamesmead. Although Crossrail is not a bad
alternative.

Sure platforms between Stratford and Canning town may have needed
lengthening. Although AFIK the Overground trains are only five cars
long.

Battersea Northern Line extension now done with a loan?
 

77002 wrote:
On 12 Dec, 17:17, Robin9 wrote:
77002;134875 Wrote:



The NLL could have been upgraded for longer, more frequent trains and
diverted under the river. An Interchange with a Jubilee extension to
Thamsmead would have been entirely possible.

If your idea had been adopted, the service via Silvertown to South
London
would have been an extension of the current service between Stratford
and Richmond. Upgrading for longer trains would have meant platform
lengthening at all stations. An attractive idea but very expensive.

Not so, the NLL would have continued south under the Thames to North
Greenwich and Westcombe Park instead of Turning East towards North
Woolwich.

The North Woolwich route would then be have been available for the
Jubilee connection to Thamesmead. Although Crossrail is not a bad
alternative.

Sure platforms between Stratford and Canning town may have needed
lengthening. Although AFIK the Overground trains are only five cars
long.

Not yet, they're not.

So your idea was to build two rail tunnels under Thames? How much
would that have cost?