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Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome
to see between York Road and Caledonian Road __________________________________________________ _____________________ This e-mail, and any attachment, may contain Confidential Information. Receipt of this information does not imply nor entitle any rights to possession or use. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify the sender immediately. __________________________________________________ _____________________ Chris Box 2534 Tel. [44] 0 (20) 7609-1093 London, Fax. [44] 0 (20) 7609-6910 WC1N 3XX, UK http://www.crag.dircon.co.uk |
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In article , chris
writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road __________________________________________________ _____________________ This e-mail, and any attachment, may contain Confidential Information. Receipt of this information does not imply nor entitle any rights to possession or use. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify the sender immediately. _________________________________________________ ______________________ Chris Box 2534 Tel. [44] 0 (20) 7609-1093 London, Fax. [44] 0 (20) 7609-6910 WC1N 3XX, UK http://www.crag.dircon.co.uk Who is Annie? -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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Andrew P Smith wrote:
In article , chris writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road Who is Annie? Annie is the name of one of the digging machines that's currently digging a 7.5km tunnel between Stratford and Kings Cross for the CTRL. |
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In message , Andrew P Smith
writes In article , chris writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road Who is Annie? A notorious great bore. -- Paul Terry |
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writes Andrew P Smith wrote: In article , chris writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road Who is Annie? Annie is the name of one of the digging machines that's currently digging a 7.5km tunnel between Stratford and Kings Cross for the CTRL. Thanks. -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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In article , Paul Terry
writes In message , Andrew P Smith writes In article , chris writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road Who is Annie? A notorious great bore. LOL!!!!! -- Andrew Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this communication can not be guaranteed. Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not associations or companies I am involved with. |
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"Paul Terry" wrote in message ... A notorious great bore. So that's what CJG meant by "thankfully living up norf"! ;-) |
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Robin Mayes wrote:
"Paul Terry" wrote in message ... A notorious great bore. So that's what CJG meant by "thankfully living up norf"! ;-) Or even "Hopefully _staying up_ nawf" ! :-) |
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Stevie wrote in message ...
Andrew P Smith wrote: In article , chris writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road Who is Annie? Annie is the name of one of the digging machines that's currently digging a 7.5km tunnel between Stratford and Kings Cross for the CTRL. Does this mean that people on the Piccadilly Line trains between York Road and Caledonian Road will actually be able to see the tunnel? Or am I misunderstanding where the digger will emerge? Brad |
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TheOneKEA wrote:
Stevie wrote in message ... Andrew P Smith wrote: In article , chris writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road Who is Annie? Annie is the name of one of the digging machines that's currently digging a 7.5km tunnel between Stratford and Kings Cross for the CTRL. Does this mean that people on the Piccadilly Line trains between York Road and Caledonian Road will actually be able to see the tunnel? Or am I misunderstanding where the digger will emerge? LOL! Unless things have gone radically adrift, Annie will break out into the open air at the location marked by the arrow at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...4&y=184169&z=1 If Piccadilly Line passengers can see any of this, they should start worrying. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In message , Richard
J. writes Unless things have gone radically adrift, Annie will break out into the open air at the location marked by the arrow at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...4&y=184169&z=1 That's really close to where they are building the bridge over the KX throat. Any chance of a sighting from there? -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , Richard J. writes Unless things have gone radically adrift, Annie will break out into the open air at the location marked by the arrow at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...4&y=184169&z=1 That's really close to where they are building the bridge over the KX throat. Any chance of a sighting from there? It's not over the throat, which is the small space between the KX platforms and Gasworks Tunnel. The CTRL site is about half a mile north of there, immediately south of the North London Line viaduct. Having now looked at the photos on the CTRL site, I think it is going to be difficult to get a good view of Annie. Look at the photo at http://www.ctrl.co.uk/photos/display...39&L=18&SL=151 This was taken last October, looking east, and shows the tunnel portal, with the ECML running in front of it left to right, and the NLL viaduct across the top left corner. In the bottom right-hand corner is the skeleton of the bridge to carry the CTRL over the ECML. This bridge was pushed into position across the ECML tracks over Christmas, and must now be very close to the tunnel portal. (The portal is only 65 metres east of the ECML, according to the CTRL Act.) Also, the bridge skeleton has been covered, so you can't see inside it any more. In October, when I was last there, you could see the portal from York Way, but I think the bridge would now obstruct that view. There are more photos at http://www.ctrl.co.uk/photos/constru...sp?L=20&SL=129. You might get a better view from a NLL train. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In message , Richard
J. writes Having now looked at the photos on the CTRL site, I think it is going to be difficult to get a good view of Annie. Look at the photo at http://www.ctrl.co.uk/photos/display...39&L=18&SL=151 This was taken last October, looking east, and shows the tunnel portal, with the ECML running in front of it left to right, and the NLL viaduct across the top left corner. In the bottom right-hand corner is the skeleton of the bridge to carry the CTRL over the ECML. This bridge was pushed into position across the ECML tracks over Christmas, and must now be very close to the tunnel portal. (The portal is only 65 metres east of the ECML, according to the CTRL Act.) Also, the bridge skeleton has been covered, so you can't see inside it any more. In October, when I was last there, you could see the portal from York Way, but I think the bridge would now obstruct that view. So where is Annie going to go, after breaking out? Sounds like it's a bit crowded there. -- Roland Perry |
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"Richard J." wrote in message ...
Annie is the name of one of the digging machines that's currently digging a 7.5km tunnel between Stratford and Kings Cross for the CTRL. Does this mean that people on the Piccadilly Line trains between York Road and Caledonian Road will actually be able to see the tunnel? Or am I misunderstanding where the digger will emerge? LOL! Unless things have gone radically adrift, Annie will break out into the open air at the location marked by the arrow at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...4&y=184169&z=1 If Piccadilly Line passengers can see any of this, they should start worrying. Just out of curiosity , do these CTRL tunnels pass above or below the tube lines there? B2003 |
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Boltar wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message ... Annie is the name of one of the digging machines that's currently digging a 7.5km tunnel between Stratford and Kings Cross for the CTRL. Does this mean that people on the Piccadilly Line trains between York Road and Caledonian Road will actually be able to see the tunnel? Or am I misunderstanding where the digger will emerge? LOL! Unless things have gone radically adrift, Annie will break out into the open air at the location marked by the arrow at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...4&y=184169&z=1 If Piccadilly Line passengers can see any of this, they should start worrying. Just out of curiosity , do these CTRL tunnels pass above or below the tube lines there? AFAIK the Piccadilly Line runs directly underneath the East Coast Main Line, which CTRL crosses by bridge just west of the tunnel portal. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In message , Richard J.
writes AFAIK the Piccadilly Line runs directly underneath the East Coast Main Line, which CTRL crosses by bridge just west of the tunnel portal. Presumably the Victoria line follows York Way and then turns under the NLL, which is the same path as the CTRL as far as Highbury and Islington. -- Roland Perry |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... Presumably the Victoria line follows York Way and then turns under the NLL, Not at all: the Vic runs not surprisingly close to Angel Station. Somebody might remember the location of the ventilation shaft in the area... is it Gibson Square? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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In message , John Rowland
writes Presumably the Victoria line follows York Way and then turns under the NLL, Not at all: the Vic runs not surprisingly close to Angel Station. Somebody might remember the location of the ventilation shaft in the area... is it Gibson Square? I sit corrected :-) Presumably it's the Piccadilly that's under York Rd, then? -- Roland Perry |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... Presumably it's the Piccadilly that's under York Rd, then? AFAIK the Picc is under the mainline from Kings Cross to Finsbury Park inclusive. (Which is stupid, because it's obvious that they should have built it under Caledonian Road...) -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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In message , John Rowland
writes AFAIK the Picc is under the mainline from Kings Cross to Finsbury Park inclusive. (Which is stupid, because it's obvious that they should have built it under Caledonian Road...) The line might be (most of the way) but afaik the *station* is under York Rd. Easier to build there than under platform 1, for example. -- Roland Perry |
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In article , John Rowland
writes AFAIK the Picc is under the mainline from Kings Cross to Finsbury Park inclusive. (Which is stupid, because it's obvious that they should have built it under Caledonian Road...) Putting it under the main line gives more room for necessary deviations than trying to put it under the road. And the GNP&BR was in cahoots with the GNR anyway (that's why it ended at Finsbury Park). -- Clive D.W. Feather, writing for himself | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Written on my laptop; please observe the Reply-To address |
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John Rowland:
AFAIK the Picc is under the mainline from Kings Cross to Finsbury Park inclusive. (Which is stupid, because it's obvious that they should have built it under Caledonian Road...) Clive Feather: Putting it under the main line gives more room for necessary deviations than trying to put it under the road. And the GNP&BR was in cahoots with the GNR anyway (that's why it ended at Finsbury Park). Who are you and what have you done with the real Clive Feather? It was the *GN&SR* that was in cahoots with the GNR; that's why their preferred routing, which Parliament approved, ran under the GNR from King's Cross to *Wood Green*. Then the GNR lost interest in supporting the GN&SR and it was bought up by Yerkes group, specifically the B&PCR, eventually to be merged with it as the GNP&BR. But it was a condition of that sale that the powers to build from Finsbury Park to Wood Green *inclusive* be abandoned -- the GNR would build and own the Finsbury Park terminus and retain a veto on northward extension. In other words, the reason the GNP&BR ended at Finsbury Park was that it was *no longer* in cahoots with the GNR. (This is also why the GN&CR ended at Finsbury Park, when that was its name.) -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "When I wanted to be a sigquote, that wasn't | the one I was thinking of." --Clive Feather My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
... In article , (chris) wrote: Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road No-one seems to have posted a confirmation and there doesn't seem to be anything on the CTRL pictures site but Annie seems to have arrived OK. At least she's sitting there today. Try http://www.ctrl.co.uk/photos/constru...sp?L=19&SL=159. Angus |
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Colin Rosenstiel writes Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road No-one seems to have posted a confirmation and there doesn't seem to be anything on the CTRL pictures site but Annie seems to have arrived OK. At least she's sitting there today. Someone posted a link (not to ctrl) but I can't find it at the moment :-( -- Roland Perry |
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In article ,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: In article , (chris) wrote: Annie will pop out the tunnel Tuesday morning, at nine am all welcome to see between York Road and Caledonian Road No-one seems to have posted a confirmation and there doesn't seem to be anything on the CTRL pictures site but Annie seems to have arrived OK. At least she's sitting there today. It was on BBC London news... |
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