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Roland Perry February 18th 13 03:33 PM

Repeated traffic light failure
 
In message , at 14:10:09
on Mon, 18 Feb 2013, David Cantrell remarked:
And despite years of compulsory daily worship at primary school, I
don't know what Christians _believe_

That's a bit hard on yourself. What they believe in is living a virtuous
life as laid out in the gospels.


That's obviously not true, because they also believe a bunch of stuff
not in the gospels. And what that stuff is varies from sect to sect,
such as:
* whether priests are necessary;
* if they are, whether women can be priests;
* if they can, whether they are as priestly as men;
* whether gay people should have human rights;
* whether evolution happened


Few of those issues will emerge as important to a student's education at
a faith school in the UK.
--
Roland Perry

Arthur Figgis February 18th 13 06:26 PM

Repeated traffic light failure
 
On 18/02/2013 15:33, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:10:09
on Mon, 18 Feb 2013, David Cantrell remarked:
And despite years of compulsory daily worship at primary school, I
don't know what Christians _believe_
That's a bit hard on yourself. What they believe in is living a virtuous
life as laid out in the gospels.


That's obviously not true, because they also believe a bunch of stuff
not in the gospels. And what that stuff is varies from sect to sect,
such as:
* whether priests are necessary;
* if they are, whether women can be priests;
* if they can, whether they are as priestly as men;
* whether gay people should have human rights;
* whether evolution happened


Few of those issues will emerge as important to a student's education at
a faith school in the UK.


As in the evil gays and palaeontologists are kept well away, or as in
the system isn't yet that bad?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Roland Perry February 18th 13 09:42 PM

Repeated traffic light failure
 
In message , at
18:26:58 on Mon, 18 Feb 2013, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
And despite years of compulsory daily worship at primary school, I
don't know what Christians _believe_
That's a bit hard on yourself. What they believe in is living a virtuous
life as laid out in the gospels.

That's obviously not true, because they also believe a bunch of stuff
not in the gospels. And what that stuff is varies from sect to sect,
such as:
* whether priests are necessary;
* if they are, whether women can be priests;
* if they can, whether they are as priestly as men;
* whether gay people should have human rights;
* whether evolution happened


Few of those issues will emerge as important to a student's education at
a faith school in the UK.


As in the evil gays and palaeontologists are kept well away, or as in
the system isn't yet that bad?


Such matters simply don't affect the life of the school.
--
Roland Perry

David Cantrell February 19th 13 11:21 AM

Repeated traffic light failure
 
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 03:33:02PM +0000, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:10:09
on Mon, 18 Feb 2013, David Cantrell remarked:
And despite years of compulsory daily worship at primary school, I
don't know what Christians _believe_
That's a bit hard on yourself. What they believe in is living a virtuous
life as laid out in the gospels.

That's obviously not true, because they also believe a bunch of stuff
not in the gospels. And what that stuff is varies from sect to sect,
such as:
* whether priests are necessary;
* if they are, whether women can be priests;
* if they can, whether they are as priestly as men;
* whether gay people should have human rights;
* whether evolution happened

Few of those issues will emerge as important to a student's education at
a faith school in the UK.


Unless it's a catholic school. They got caught encouraging their
students to lobby politicians to restrict gay peoples' human rights.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...s-gay-marriage

I am certain that there are lots of other issues that I didn't list
which religious schools will both differ on and be stupid about.

--
David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world

All principles of gravity are negated by fear
-- Cartoon Law V

Arthur Figgis February 19th 13 09:51 PM

Repeated traffic light failure
 
On 18/02/2013 21:42, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
18:26:58 on Mon, 18 Feb 2013, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
And despite years of compulsory daily worship at primary school, I
don't know what Christians _believe_
That's a bit hard on yourself. What they believe in is living a
virtuous
life as laid out in the gospels.

That's obviously not true, because they also believe a bunch of stuff
not in the gospels. And what that stuff is varies from sect to sect,
such as:
* whether priests are necessary;
* if they are, whether women can be priests;
* if they can, whether they are as priestly as men;
* whether gay people should have human rights;
* whether evolution happened

Few of those issues will emerge as important to a student's education at
a faith school in the UK.


As in the evil gays and palaeontologists are kept well away, or as in
the system isn't yet that bad?


Such matters simply don't affect the life of the school.


Presumably they must have to navigate evolution at some point? Although
I'm far from convinced that there really are enough creationists this
side of the Atlantic for that one to be serious issue, even if a school
bigwig wanted it to be. Plus kids find dinosaurs much more interesting
than the alternatives.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Arthur Figgis February 19th 13 10:08 PM

Repeated traffic light failure
 
On 19/02/2013 11:21, David Cantrell wrote:

Unless it's a catholic school. They got caught encouraging their
students to lobby politicians to restrict gay peoples' human rights.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...s-gay-marriage

I am certain that there are lots of other issues that I didn't list
which religious schools will both differ on and be stupid about.


It could be cunning double-cross by someone inside, as telling pupils to
do one thing might guarantee them thinking the opposite.

Lots of pupils from that school use the trains and buses round here, and
I'm often amazed at the highbrow conversations they have amongst
themselves. I suspect someone wearing a gay pride badge at the school I
went to would have been the sort of thing that might be included in a
catchy railway safety song.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK


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