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In a shock move, I hear Boris has now extended his proposals on improving
the air quality in London even further.

Rather than just tightening up his insistence on low-emission engines being
phased in, it is believed the mayor will press for all vehicles entering the
clean-air zone to be powered by hot air.

Having an apparently-unlimited supply of it himself, he....snip

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In a shock move, I hear Boris has now extended his proposals on improving
the air quality in London even further.

Rather than just tightening up his insistence on low-emission engines
being phased in, it is believed the mayor will press for all vehicles
entering the clean-air zone to be powered by hot air.

Having an apparently-unlimited supply of it himself, he....snip

(please keep until April 1st, unless needed before)
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Thank you, I am stealing this :-)


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"Brian Watson" wrote in message
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In a shock move, I hear Boris has now extended his proposals on improving
the air quality in London even further.

Rather than just tightening up his insistence on low-emission engines
being phased in, it is believed the mayor will press for all vehicles
entering the clean-air zone to be powered by hot air.

Having an apparently-unlimited supply of it himself, he....snip

(please keep until April 1st, unless needed before)
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

Thank you, I am stealing this :-)


You're welcome.

:-)

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Originally Posted by Brian Watson[_2_] View Post
In a shock move, I hear Boris has now extended his proposals on improving
the air quality in London even further.

Rather than just tightening up his insistence on low-emission engines being
phased in, it is believed the mayor will press for all vehicles entering the
clean-air zone to be powered by hot air.

Having an apparently-unlimited supply of it himself, he....snip

(please keep until April 1st, unless needed before)
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Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
As Boris Johnson has continued Ken Livingstone's policy of impeding road
traffic movement in London, he has zero credibility when he pretends he cares
about air pollution.

It cannot be stated too often that the reason London's air has deteriorated
over the past thirteen years is that two grossly irresponsible Mayors have
encouraged TfL to damage London's road system. It also needs to be
repeated endlessly that the easiest way to reduce air pollution in London is to
keep road traffic moving.
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Robin9 wrote:
'Brian Watson[_2_ Wrote:
;136184']In a shock move, I hear Boris has now extended his proposals on
improving
the air quality in London even further.

Rather than just tightening up his insistence on low-emission engines
being
phased in, it is believed the mayor will press for all vehicles entering
the
clean-air zone to be powered by hot air.

Having an apparently-unlimited supply of it himself, he....snip

(please keep until April 1st, unless needed before)
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."


As Boris Johnson has continued Ken Livingstone's policy of impeding road

traffic movement in London, he has zero credibility when he pretends he
cares
about air pollution.

It cannot be stated too often that the reason London's air has
deteriorated
over the past thirteen years is that two grossly irresponsible Mayors
have
encouraged TfL to damage London's road system. It also needs to be
repeated endlessly that the easiest way to reduce air pollution in
London is to
keep road traffic moving.

How would you build Crossrail without disrupting traffic round the station
and tunnel construction sites?


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In message , Robin9
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It also needs to be
repeated endlessly that the easiest way to reduce air pollution in


London is to
keep road traffic moving.


Yes there is no bigger polluter than a vehicle sat in traffic going
nowhere and the engine idling.
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As you well know, that was not what I was referring to. Let me ask you
a question. Why did you try to divert attention away from the main issue
with this silly red herring?
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:39:08 -0600, Recliner
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Robin9
wrote:
'Brian Watson[_2_ Wrote:
;136184']In a shock move, I hear Boris has now extended his proposals on
improving
the air quality in London even further.

Rather than just tightening up his insistence on low-emission engines
being phased in, it is believed the mayor will press for all vehicles entering
the clean-air zone to be powered by hot air.

Having an apparently-unlimited supply of it himself, he....snip


As Boris Johnson has continued Ken Livingstone's policy of impeding road
traffic movement in London, he has zero credibility when he pretends he
cares about air pollution.

It cannot be stated too often that the reason London's air has
deteriorated over the past thirteen years is that two grossly irresponsible Mayors
have encouraged TfL to damage London's road system. It also needs to be
repeated endlessly that the easiest way to reduce air pollution in
London is to keep road traffic moving.

How would you build Crossrail without disrupting traffic round the station
and tunnel construction sites?


You wouldn't build Crossrail. You would knock down 25% of London to
build motorways and bypasses so the traffic can keep moving. I
suspect the obtuse reference is to "nasty" anti car things like
traffic lights, bus lanes, cycle lanes, widened pavements, properly
phased pedestrian crossings etc. We can't be having those in London
because, heaven forfend, people might walk and cycle in slightly safer
conditions and buses might run faster than they did 10 years ago.
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Paul C
What a silly knee-jerk response! So Pavlovian; so predictable;
so unconstructive.

I have never suggested that money should not be invested in public transport
infrastructure. I demand only that it should be invested wisely in projects that
will benefit large numbers of people. If you paid a little attention to what
regular posters contribute, you would remember that I have often suggested
possibilities for the expansion of the rail and tube services.

I have never recommended large investment in road building or improvement.
On the contrary, I have previously stated that I do not want TfL to do
anything to London's roads because they will only and always make matters
worse. As for your childish assumption that I want to demolish large parts of
London, I challenge you to find one post from me suggesting pulling buildings
down.

The rest of your post is slightly closer to the mark but, of course, you refuse
to address the one result of those anti-motor car measures that is relevant to
this thread: the effect on air quality.


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