All too often these problems come about because TOC managers fail to
appreciate the complexities involved in providing bus replacement.

On the face of it, it's all too easy to assume that any fool could
drive a bus from say Coventry to Birmingham New St.

But, try doing it via every local station, along the way, you probably
couldn't find a more illogical road route.

Plus, the drivers are also instructed that they must not drop
passengers on the opposite side of the road to the station entrance.
so each station also has to be approached in an appropriate direction.

All too often it's left for drivers to find all this out the hard way.

Several times I've been the one showing them the way and, even then,
with the help of guidance, those buses are big buggers to be turning
around several times in one journey.

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 14:40:32 on
Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Basil Jet remarked:

Are there any roads that go under railways in Anglia?

Most of them are underpasses at level crossings, which are a bit
obvious when it comes to height restrictions (or so we think - bashes
are frequent).

Are there examples other than the A142 at Ely Station?

Colin Rosenstiel

In article
,
(allan tracy) wrote:

All too often these problems come about because TOC managers fail to
appreciate the complexities involved in providing bus replacement.

On the face of it, it's all too easy to assume that any fool could
drive a bus from say Coventry to Birmingham New St.

But, try doing it via every local station, along the way, you probably
couldn't find a more illogical road route.

Plus, the drivers are also instructed that they must not drop
passengers on the opposite side of the road to the station entrance.
so each station also has to be approached in an appropriate direction.

All too often it's left for drivers to find all this out the hard way.

Several times I've been the one showing them the way and, even then,
with the help of guidance, those buses are big buggers to be turning
around several times in one journey.

TOCs do sometimes have the sense to stop buses on main roads near stations.
I caught one once at Slaithwaite on a Standedge rail replacement service.
The other passenger and I, both going to Greenfield, had to direct the
driver to Greenfield station, though.

Colin Rosenstiel

On 28/04/2013 11:18, Roland Perry wrote:
You couldn't make this up - especially as ColinR was saying only last
weekend that his wife refuses to use the Ely - Cambridge RRP because
last time she did, the bus got lost.

Anyway, my wife is on the way to London this morning and took the RRP
bus...

Well, since Colin and Roland are *constantly* arguing about everything
and nothing on the cam.* newsgroups, I suggest the four of them arrange
to meet at a pub one day. The good Mrs Perry and Mrs Rosenstiel can have
a jolly good laugh between themselves over a nice drink in the pub,
reminiscing about all their rail mishaps, whilst the two gentleman
arrange to have a duel (fisticuffs, pistols, cutlasses, whatever)
outside in the pub garden...

Michael

On 28/04/2013 18:09, Michael Kilpatrick wrote:

Well, since Colin and Roland are *constantly* arguing about everything
and nothing on the cam.* newsgroups, I suggest the four of them arrange
to meet at a pub one day. The good Mrs Perry and Mrs Rosenstiel can have
a jolly good laugh between themselves over a nice drink in the pub,
reminiscing about all their rail mishaps, whilst the two gentleman
arrange to have a duel (fisticuffs, pistols, cutlasses, whatever)
outside in the pub garden...

I would hope that some of the rest of us who know all four of them would
be allowed to come along too ...

--
Tim Ward
www.brettward.co.uk

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:56:32 +0100, "
wrote:

On 28/04/2013 14:42, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\04\28 14:01, wrote:
On 28/04/2013 13:29, Peter Masson wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message ...

You couldn't make this up - especially as ColinR was saying only last
weekend that his wife refuses to use the Ely - Cambridge RRP because
last time she did, the bus got lost.

At least it didn't take its top off by trying to go through a low
railway bridge, as has happened with rail replacement buses in the past.

Peter



That happened at Camden Town a few years back, though I thought that was
a regularly scheduled bus then.

IIRC either "off route" returning to the garage and/or failing to keep
between the "aiming" marks on an arched bridge under which other buses
have been passing for many years :-
http://goo.gl/maps/fULjs
I don't think the cycle lanes existed at the time of the accident.

Kentish Town West, I believe. A bus would do well to crash into the
Northern Line in Camden Town :-)

Do you mean the North London Line? The Northern Line is under ground there.

wrote in message
...

Are there examples other than the A142 at Ely Station?

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A10 Milton Road just south of the science park in Cambridge!

Ian

On 2013-04-28, wrote:
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 14:40:32 on
Sun, 28 Apr 2013, Basil Jet remarked:

Are there any roads that go under railways in Anglia?

Most of them are underpasses at level crossings, which are a bit
obvious when it comes to height restrictions (or so we think - bashes
are frequent).

Are there examples other than the A142 at Ely Station?

Colin Rosenstiel

Manningtree.

Eric
--
ms fnd in a lbry

Well, since Colin and Roland are *constantly* arguing about everything
and nothing on the cam.* newsgroups, I suggest the four of them arrange
to meet at a pub one day. The good Mrs Perry and Mrs Rosenstiel can have
a jolly good laugh between themselves over a nice drink in the pub, ...

But first they have to decide which pub.

I'd suggest Cambridge Blue, but they probably have their own,
conflicting, opinions.

--
Regards,
John Levine, , Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly

In message , at 10:25:33
on Sun, 28 Apr 2013, remarked:
Are there any roads that go under railways in Anglia?

Most of them are underpasses at level crossings, which are a bit
obvious when it comes to height restrictions (or so we think - bashes
are frequent).

Are there examples other than the A142 at Ely Station?

There's one somewhere near Harwich, which is very similar to Ely and got
a bus (coach?) bashed about a year ago.
--
Roland Perry