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The Hiawatha Line is opening 3 April in Minneapolis. It's a light rail
project: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/lrt/ I didn't care too much for their map, so I made my own: http://ae.ath.cx/hiawatha/hiawatha.jpg I think you'll like it ![]() Jonathan |
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![]() "Jonathan Osborne" wrote in message ... The Hiawatha Line is opening 3 April in Minneapolis. It's a light rail project: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/lrt/ I didn't care too much for their map, so I made my own: http://ae.ath.cx/hiawatha/hiawatha.jpg I think you'll like it ![]() When does its Docklands extension open and will there be interchange facilities at Piccadilly Circus? CLUE: ========== -- Brian "Let's be grateful for our Fridays and face our Mondays with good humour." |
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"Jonathan Osborne" wrote in message ...
The Hiawatha Line is opening 3 April in Minneapolis. It's a light rail project: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/lrt/ I didn't care too much for their map, so I made my own: http://ae.ath.cx/hiawatha/hiawatha.jpg I think you'll like it ![]() Jonathan Excellent!! They could do a lot worse than pay you a royalty and adopt your solution. |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, james007 wrote:
In article , (Ian Davidson) wrote: The Hiawatha Line is opening 3 April in Minneapolis. It's a light rail project: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/lrt/ I didn't care too much for their map, so I made my own: http://ae.ath.cx/hiawatha/hiawatha.jpg Excellent!! They could do a lot worse than pay you a royalty and adopt your solution. Why? Well, if they were really intent on doing a lot worse, they could print it upside-down and leave the station names off ![]() Jonathan's managed to strip all geographical cues out of this, No he hasn't - it's still got bends in roughly the right places. and a Beck-style diagram for a one-line system is pointless. I think i agree - a map like the on-board maps (basically just a straight line) would be better. I suspect that he, and you, don't understand why Beck designed his diagram the way he did; Come to think of it, nor do i; i'd assumed it was basically the best way to lay out a correct topological map (ie if you have lines and crossings, there is no simpler way). Is there more to it than that? but please don't give the guy a plaudit for badly ripping-off someone else's work. Oh come off it - it's hardly like he's claiming he's invented that layout, is it? It's a deliberate homage to the mother of all metro maps, and it's both usable and nice-looking. Anyway, on the subject: http://www.delhimetrorail.com/home/sphase1.jpg If the Blue Line were Green, it'd be a dead ringer for the Central/East London/District line system - ON ACID! tom -- Fitter, Happier, More Productive. |
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![]() "james007" wrote in message ... In article , (Ian Davidson) wrote: The Hiawatha Line is opening 3 April in Minneapolis. It's a light rail project: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/lrt/ I didn't care too much for their map, so I made my own: http://ae.ath.cx/hiawatha/hiawatha.jpg Excellent!! They could do a lot worse than pay you a royalty and adopt your solution. Why? Jonathan's managed to strip all geographical cues out of this, and a Beck-style diagram for a one-line system is pointless. I suspect that he, and you, don't understand why Beck designed his diagram the way he did; but please don't give the guy a plaudit for badly ripping-off someone else's work. j Lighten up, james. I did it for fun and to make the map look more like the Tube's (obviously). It has nothing to do with "understanding why Beck designed his diagram" or anything else you said. It was fun, and you're the only person who complained. Don't ruin it please. J.O. |
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Tom Anderson wrote the following in:
Anyway, on the subject: http://www.delhimetrorail.com/home/sphase1.jpg If the Blue Line were Green, it'd be a dead ringer for the Central/East London/District line system - ON ACID! One of the reasons I like the tube better than most other equivalents is because we gave the lines proper names! "Jubilee line" sounds much better than "Grey line" and as for the Docklands Light Railway, that's immeasurably better than "bluey green with a white gap in the middle line". -- message by Robin May, enforcer of sod's law. The Hutton Report is a whitewash! Long live the BBC! Crime is confusing. |
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In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote: but please don't give the guy a plaudit for badly ripping-off someone else's work. Oh come off it - it's hardly like he's claiming he's invented that layout, is it? It's a deliberate homage to the mother of all metro maps, and it's both usable and nice-looking. It's *less* usable than their original map. Look at his map, and tell me where I94 is. (Between Franklin Avenue and Cedar). Where is VA Medical Centre Station? (Near E54th). Now, look at their map of the test area for the answers: http://www.metrocouncil.org/transit/...rea-mapbig.gif A map is there to make life easier, not harder. The Beck diagram distorts geography to make a complicated interchange system easier to see, follow, and understand. There is no point for a one-line system like this - which even follows straight roads for much of its distance! - to be subject to a Beckian treatment. The author says what it is - a little bit of fun. That's a fine reason to do something. However, to claim that the Metro Council's Transit department should junk their maps for this one, as you did, is both naive and unrealistic. (The author should note that there are no angles on the Beck map - changes of line direction are achieved with a rounded corner, not a sharp turn; and that, by and large, distances between stations are equal both horizontally and vertically. In particular, the gap between Fort Snelling and the Medical Center is disproportionately large - as are most on the vertical section.) |
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