New platform at Blake Hall?
 

I finally took a trip on the Epping-Ongar Railway today. All in all quite a
pleasant experience.

When passing the old Blake Hall station I noticed there seemed to be a new
short platform in place - is the EOR planning to reactivate the station, is
the owner of the building after a private halt or is this just decoration?

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New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Recliner wrote:

When passing the old Blake Hall station I noticed there seemed to be a
new
short platform in place - is the EOR planning to reactivate the station,
is
the owner of the building after a private halt or is this just
decoration?

The house owner also happens to be the owner of the whole EOR (did you
notice some of his vintage LT buses parked nearby?), so I guess he's free
to have his own private station on his train set.

I didn't spot the buses but we passed the station quite quickly and on the
return journey it was on the corridor side.

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New platform at Blake Hall?
 

"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
Recliner wrote:

When passing the old Blake Hall station I noticed there seemed to be a
new
short platform in place - is the EOR planning to reactivate the station,
is
the owner of the building after a private halt or is this just
decoration?

The house owner also happens to be the owner of the whole EOR (did you
notice some of his vintage LT buses parked nearby?), so I guess he's free
to have his own private station on his train set.

I didn't spot the buses but we passed the station quite quickly and on the
return journey it was on the corridor side.

He's also building a new siding nearby. Perhaps that's where he plans to
stable his most interesting stock?

If you used the free vintage bus shuttle from Epping station, those are
his, too. If you travelled behind either 4953 Pitchford Hall or GWR Large
Prairie No. 4141, he owns those as well:
http://www.rail.co.uk/rail-news/2012...ongar-railway/

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 26/08/2013 19:56, Recliner wrote:
"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
I finally took a trip on the Epping-Ongar Railway today. All in all quite a
pleasant experience.

When passing the old Blake Hall station I noticed there seemed to be a new
short platform in place - is the EOR planning to reactivate the station, is
the owner of the building after a private halt or is this just decoration?

The house owner also happens to be the owner of the whole EOR (did you
notice some of his vintage LT buses parked nearby?), so I guess he's free
to have his own private station on his train set.


It must be nice to have your own station. Do you still have to tap in
and tap out?

This also reminds me of some apartment buildings where one or two
residents might have access to the lift, literally within their own flat.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

" wrote:
On 26/08/2013 19:56, Recliner wrote:
"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
I finally took a trip on the Epping-Ongar Railway today. All in all quite a
pleasant experience.

When passing the old Blake Hall station I noticed there seemed to be a new
short platform in place - is the EOR planning to reactivate the station, is
the owner of the building after a private halt or is this just decoration?

The house owner also happens to be the owner of the whole EOR (did you
notice some of his vintage LT buses parked nearby?), so I guess he's free
to have his own private station on his train set.


It must be nice to have your own station. Do you still have to tap in and tap out?

This also reminds me of some apartment buildings where one or two
residents might have access to the lift, literally within their own flat.

Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

On a related note, I'm always intrigued by hotel lifts with non-stop
floors, such as the mysterious fifth floor of the Yanggakdo hotel in
Pyongyang.
http://www.businessinsider.com/yangg...or-2013-4?op=1

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013-08-26 22:56:49 +0000, Recliner said:

On a related note, I'm always intrigued by hotel lifts with non-stop
floors, such as the mysterious fifth floor of the Yanggakdo hotel in
Pyongyang.

How strange - i've just been reading about a notorious housing project
in the US where the lifts were deliberately set to bypass floors
(skip/stop) to encourage people to mingle in the stairwells/galleries
etc. What happened is that a lot of people got mugged instead.

E.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013\08\26 23:56, Recliner wrote:

Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

In message , at 00:58:16 on
Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Basil Jet remarked:
Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on
the top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was
empty.
--
Roland Perry

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013\08\27 07:06, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:58:16 on
Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Basil Jet remarked:
Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on
the top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

These can be achieved by having a separate lift above the main one in
the same shaft, and having a few steps up to the directors entrance in
the basement, and having a car sensor in the directors parking spot.
Still waaaaaay cheaper than the director having his own lift shaft
sitting empty all day through the entire building.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\08\27 07:06, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:58:16 on
Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Basil Jet remarked:
Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on
the top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

These can be achieved by having a separate lift above the main one in the
same shaft, and having a few steps up to the directors entrance in the
basement, and having a car sensor in the directors parking spot. Still
waaaaaay cheaper than the director having his own lift shaft sitting
empty all day through the entire building.

Presumably the private lift would be for the use of all the inhabitants of
the executive suite, and perhaps some of their visitors, and not just the
CEO.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 26/08/2013 23:43, wrote:


It must be nice to have your own station.


Roman Bridge?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...-wales-3166366

Charlie

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Was it Pruitt-Igoe?

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

In message , at 09:45:03 on
Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Basil Jet remarked:
Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on
the top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

These can be achieved by having a separate lift above the main one in
the same shaft, and having a few steps up to the directors entrance in
the basement, and having a car sensor in the directors parking spot.
Still waaaaaay cheaper than the director having his own lift shaft
sitting empty all day through the entire building.

That doesn't solve how long you have to wait for the lift-combo to get
to the top floor, nor how long it takes to get down to the basement
while the lower lift stops at every floor.

Actually, it'd be just as bad in the opposite direction too.
--
Roland Perry

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 00:58:16 on
Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Basil Jet remarked:
Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so
they can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions
on the way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on
the top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

There are CEOs who are happy to mix with their staff.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:29:10 -0500,
wrote:

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 00:58:16 on
Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Basil Jet remarked:
Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so
they can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions
on the way up to the executive suite.

Really? That seems rather expensive, compared to just programming the
lifts to stop nowhere else when going to or from the top floor, and
possibly having a back door that is only used in the basement.

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on
the top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

There are CEOs who are happy to mix with their staff.

Obviously there are many; I was pointing out the example of the
fortunately less common ones who aren't.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Is one end of the platform ten inches wide, like at the original Shepherds Bush Market. LOROL!

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Roland Perry wrote:

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on the
top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

Our CEO (medium sized IT company) sits in the same open plan office we all
do, and good on him for it.

Neil
--
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New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Neil Williams wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:

There's also the time element. How long would the CEO have to wait on the
top floor for a lift to arrive? And how could you ensure it was empty.

Our CEO (medium sized IT company) sits in the same open plan office we all
do, and good on him for it.

Hopefully, that's typical these days, particularly in smaller, private
companies. With large public corporations, where CEOs are possibly under
threat from kidnappers, terrorists or the paparazzi, they probably do have
to remain a little more aloof.

For a really hideous example at the toxic end of the spectrum, consider
Jimmy Cayne of Bear Stearns:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charle...b_1532520.html

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013-08-27 11:21:00 +0000, Offramp said:

Was it Pruitt-Igoe?

Yes - in research I'm doing I came across a paper that shifts the blame
somewhat from the designers/architects, who usually get the most blame,
to the underlying poverty factors.

There's an article here and link to the paper.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/prosp...housing?page=1

E.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013-08-27 12:42:16 +0000, Recliner said:

There are CEOs who are happy to mix with their staff.

Obviously there are many; I was pointing out the example of the
fortunately less common ones who aren't.

In the 1980s I joined a media company. I'd been there a month or so,
and one day I went to the gents and the CEO was in there. He turned to
me and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

E.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013\08\27 15:31, eastender wrote:

In the 1980s I joined a media company. I'd been there a month or so, and
one day I went to the gents and the CEO was in there. He turned to me
and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

Are you male or female?

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013-08-27 14:34:17 +0000, Basil Jet said:

On 2013\08\27 15:31, eastender wrote:

In the 1980s I joined a media company. I'd been there a month or so, and
one day I went to the gents and the CEO was in there. He turned to me
and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

Are you male or female?

In those days the gents weren't unisex.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

In message , at 07:29:10
on Tue, 27 Aug 2013, remarked:

There are CEOs who are happy to mix with their staff.

Of course (and I include myself in various previous CEO roles) however
others end up in a culture where they like to keep the staff at arms
length. It's not a modern thing - iirc ICI used to have three different
'staff canteens' for different grades of staff (a generation ago).
--
Roland Perry

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:20:51 PM UTC+1, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 07:29:10

on Tue, 27 Aug 2013, remarked:



There are CEOs who are happy to mix with their staff.



Of course (and I include myself in various previous CEO roles) however

others end up in a culture where they like to keep the staff at arms

length. It's not a modern thing - iirc ICI used to have three different

'staff canteens' for different grades of staff (a generation ago).

--

Roland Perry

And then there were the famous lavatories at London Transport (55 Broadway) for the three sexes ... Men, Women and Officers.

DRH

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

In message , at
10:46:16 on Tue, 27 Aug 2013, DRH remarked:
keep the staff at arms
length. It's not a modern thing - iirc ICI used to have three different
'staff canteens' for different grades of staff (a generation ago).

And then there were the famous lavatories at London Transport (55 Broadway) for the three sexes ... Men, Women and Officers.

It's ingrained from an early age. Most schools have different toilets
for staff and pupils, and even some FE colleges I've been to.
--
Roland Perry

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 07:29:10
on Tue, 27 Aug 2013, remarked:

There are CEOs who are happy to mix with their staff.

Of course (and I include myself in various previous CEO roles) however
others end up in a culture where they like to keep the staff at arms
length. It's not a modern thing - iirc ICI used to have three different
'staff canteens' for different grades of staff (a generation ago).

My first job was at a company with four staff canteen levels, three of
which shared a common kitchen: blue collar self-service, with hard floors;
non-managerial white collar self-service with carpet tiles; and managerial
with waitress service and licensed (this was 40 years ago). There was a
separate, much smarter executive restaurant with a different menu, in a
different building, popularly known as the 'golden trough'; I think this
was free for those executives who qualified. I visited other manufacturing
companies with at least five grades of canteen/restaurant.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2013\08\27 15:31, eastender wrote:

In the 1980s I joined a media company. I'd been there a month or so, and
one day I went to the gents and the CEO was in there. He turned to me
and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

Are you male or female?

With a name like Basil Jet, I'd say you had more right to be there than him.

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013-08-28 14:31:19 +0000, Brian Watson said:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2013\08\27 15:31, eastender wrote:

In the 1980s I joined a media company. I'd been there a month or so, and
one day I went to the gents and the CEO was in there. He turned to me
and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

Are you male or female?

With a name like Basil Jet, I'd say you had more right to be there than him.

My real name is Percy Porcelain.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

In uk.transport.london message a9e50890-a4c3-452a-8cd3-689c9e913712@goo
glegroups.com, Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:46:16, DRH
posted:



And then there were the famous lavatories at London Transport (55
Broadway) for the three sexes ... Men, Women and Officers.

When in Norway, we saw a Church in the middle of a field. Nearby was a
hut with three labelled doors, which were translated to me as indicating
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Clergy.

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New platform at Blake Hall?
 

... and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

Are you male or female

Definitely a very funny comment, Basil.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 26/08/2013 23:56, Recliner wrote:
" wrote:
On 26/08/2013 19:56, Recliner wrote:
"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
I finally took a trip on the Epping-Ongar Railway today. All in all quite a
pleasant experience.

When passing the old Blake Hall station I noticed there seemed to be a new
short platform in place - is the EOR planning to reactivate the station, is
the owner of the building after a private halt or is this just decoration?

The house owner also happens to be the owner of the whole EOR (did you
notice some of his vintage LT buses parked nearby?), so I guess he's free
to have his own private station on his train set.


It must be nice to have your own station. Do you still have to tap in and tap out?

This also reminds me of some apartment buildings where one or two
residents might have access to the lift, literally within their own flat.

Lots of CEOs have private lifts from their underground car parks so they
can avoid meeting not just the public, but even their own minions on the
way up to the executive suite.

On a related note, I'm always intrigued by hotel lifts with non-stop
floors, such as the mysterious fifth floor of the Yanggakdo hotel in
Pyongyang.
http://www.businessinsider.com/yangg...or-2013-4?op=1

The ones that I have seen did not belong to a CEO. It was simply a
private flat, in which the entrance to the lift was actually in the
residence.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Dr J R Stockton wrote:
In uk.transport.london message a9e50890-a4c3-452a-8cd3-689c9e913712@goo
glegroups.com, Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:46:16, DRH
posted:



And then there were the famous lavatories at London Transport (55
Broadway) for the three sexes ... Men, Women and Officers.

When in Norway, we saw a Church in the middle of a field. Nearby was a
hut with three labelled doors, which were translated to me as indicating
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Clergy.

Perhaps not in Norway, but in some countries, that might have been 'priests
and children'.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

On 2013\08\28 20:52, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
In uk.transport.london message a9e50890-a4c3-452a-8cd3-689c9e913712@goo
glegroups.com, Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:46:16, DRH
posted:



And then there were the famous lavatories at London Transport (55
Broadway) for the three sexes ... Men, Women and Officers.

When in Norway, we saw a Church in the middle of a field. Nearby was a
hut with three labelled doors, which were translated to me as indicating
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Clergy.

Put the Clergy door in the middle and it can double as a confessional.

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\08\28 20:52, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
In uk.transport.london message a9e50890-a4c3-452a-8cd3-689c9e913712@goo
glegroups.com, Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:46:16, DRH
posted:



And then there were the famous lavatories at London Transport (55
Broadway) for the three sexes ... Men, Women and Officers.

When in Norway, we saw a Church in the middle of a field. Nearby was a
hut with three labelled doors, which were translated to me as indicating
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Clergy.

Put the Clergy door in the middle and it can double as a confessional.

Do Lutherans have confessionals?

New platform at Blake Hall?
 

"eastender" wrote in message
news:2013082816264190572-nospam@nospamcom...
On 2013-08-28 14:31:19 +0000, Brian Watson said:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2013\08\27 15:31, eastender wrote:

In the 1980s I joined a media company. I'd been there a month or so,
and
one day I went to the gents and the CEO was in there. He turned to me
and said, 'Who the f**k are you?'

Are you male or female?

With a name like Basil Jet, I'd say you had more right to be there than
him.

My real name is Percy Porcelain.

Then I think I see your point.

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."