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In message , at 23:51:57 on Fri, 4 Oct 2013,
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That has to be the ugliest front end on a train ever devised.
--
Roland Perry

It looks like the back of a bus.

Roland Perry wrote on 05 October 2013 09:54:35 ...
In message , at 23:51:57 on Fri, 4 Oct 2013,
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That has to be the ugliest front end on a train ever devised.

I don't find it particularly ugly, quite elegant in a way, but what I
find odd is that this driverless train doesn't appear to let passengers
sit at the front, as on the DLR and the Paris Metro driverless trains.
No side windows near the front, and a dark front. So if it's not a
driver's cab, what is it? If it's a bolthole for the passenger service
agent to use when the train is crush-loaded, how does he get there (no
separate side door)?
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Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On 05/10/2013 13:18, Richard J. wrote:
Roland Perry wrote on 05 October 2013 09:54:35 ...
In message , at 23:51:57 on Fri, 4 Oct 2013,
" remarked:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-Tube-future-2
1st-century-vision-London-train-goes--offering-30-space-air-conditioning
.html

That has to be the ugliest front end on a train ever devised.

I don't find it particularly ugly, quite elegant in a way, but what I
find odd is that this driverless train doesn't appear to let passengers
sit at the front, as on the DLR and the Paris Metro driverless trains.

I was also wondering about that and hope that this mock up will not turn
out to be the way of things.

The Nuremberg U-Bahn's U-3 line also allows passengers front views.

No side windows near the front, and a dark front. So if it's not a
driver's cab, what is it? If it's a bolthole for the passenger service
agent to use when the train is crush-loaded, how does he get there (no
separate side door)?

Perhaps there won't be a PSA, as there is not in Lille, Toulouse, Paris,
Rennes, Brescia or Copenhagen?

On 04/10/2013 23:51, wrote:
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Speaking of driverless trains, AIUI, the nearest prospect of that
happening in the UK is on the Glasgow Subway.

Are there any concrete plans and timeframes at this point?

In message , at 15:41:06 on Sat, 5 Oct 2013,
" remarked:

Speaking of driverless trains, AIUI, the nearest prospect of that
happening in the UK is on the Glasgow Subway.

Are there any concrete plans

What's usually asked for is "concrete steps". Which are not that
uncommon at railway stations, it has to be said.

As recently as 2011, the USA was talking about: "concrete steps
toward enabling the future of human space exploration across the solar
system." Which beats firing people up in rockets I suppose.
--
Roland Perry

On 05/10/2013 13:18, Richard J. wrote:
Roland Perry wrote on 05 October 2013 09:54:35 ...
In message , at 23:51:57 on Fri, 4 Oct 2013,
" remarked:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-Tube-future-2
1st-century-vision-London-train-goes--offering-30-space-air-conditioning
.html

That has to be the ugliest front end on a train ever devised.

I don't find it particularly ugly, quite elegant in a way, but what I
find odd is that this driverless train doesn't appear to let passengers
sit at the front, as on the DLR and the Paris Metro driverless trains.
No side windows near the front, and a dark front. So if it's not a
driver's cab, what is it? If it's a bolthole for the passenger service
agent to use when the train is crush-loaded, how does he get there (no
separate side door)?

It's a cab, because it is not a driverless train:

"Siemens would be able to supply trains suitable for manual driving,
automated operation with a driver in the cab, automated operation with
no cab but with a member of staff onboard, or unattended automatic
operation.

The wall separating the cab from the passenger area is designed to be
removed if conversion to automatic operation were to be requested after
the trains entered service, increasing the space available for
passengers. The control equipment would be located under a seat, where
it could be accessed by on-train staff if required; a similar procedure
has been adopted on the Docklands Light Railway, where onboard staff can
drive the trains manually if necessary."

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...und-train.html



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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:54:35 AM UTC+1, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:51:57 on Fri, 4 Oct 2013, " remarked:
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That has to be the ugliest front end on a train ever devised.

It looks like a jar lid. Maybe it's the emergency escape; simply unscrew the front and let people out...

PhilD

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On 05/10/2013 13:18, Richard J. wrote:
Roland Perry wrote on 05 October 2013 09:54:35 ...
In message , at 23:51:57 on Fri, 4 Oct 2013,
" remarked:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-Tube-future-2
1st-century-vision-London-train-goes--offering-30-space-air-conditioning
.html

That has to be the ugliest front end on a train ever devised.

I don't find it particularly ugly, quite elegant in a way, but what I
find odd is that this driverless train doesn't appear to let passengers
sit at the front, as on the DLR and the Paris Metro driverless trains.

I was also wondering about that and hope that this mock up will not turn
out to be the way of things.

The Nuremberg U-Bahn's U-3 line also allows passengers front views.

So does Copenhagen

tim