On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:01:45 -0500
Recliner wrote:
Tony Dragon wrote:
I also keep my Oyster card in a separate holder, but since I got a new
contactless debit card I now have to keep my Freedom Pass in yet another
holder.

I keep my contactless debit card in my main wallet. I've also put a piece
of Al foil in the wallet to stop the card being detected when it's in the
wallet. I don't usually take my Oyster and Freedom cards out together.

I wouldn't rely on that. RF has a way of sneaking through small gaps and
you may find one day your card has been debited because the foil slipped a
bit and exposed the card slightly.

--
Spud

"Mark Bestley" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 14:27:00 on
Fri, 1 Nov 2013, Mark Bestley remarked:
Someone remind me - arn't we being told RFID is supposed to make
life
easier?

Requiring multiple wallets or wallets with seperate sections or
****ing
around
with bloody tin foil and then having to remember which way up to put
the
wallet
on the reader for gods sake wouldn't be my definition of "easier".

relative to getting on the end of a 10 minute queue it is


Curently I can carry my pass/oyster and a credit card in one wallett

The indications are that this will stop working quite soon (unless your
wallet is capable of separating them sufficiently when you touch-in).

Or perhaps your credit card isn't yet Paywave enabled - wait until it
gets replaced.

where is the 10 minute queue here?

For a paper ticket.

Which I don't need, I have a Pass already.

Then you are right, there is no saving from replacing a paper ticket with an
RFID one

but for those of us who have to pay (as we go) for our travel, there is

tim

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:17:35 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
A "wave and pay" bank card should be accepted when the system is fully
switched on next year. At the moment only buses are covered and no
daily capping operates. TfL are apparently going to undertake a
larger trial shortly when more details should emerge and I expect a
big publicity campaign when the scheme fully launches next year.

They won't need publicity. The braindead masses seem to have no issue with
direct access to their bank accounts so long as it saves them 5 seconds or
the hassle of carrying an extra 20 gram card. These people don't deserve
to have savings - I hope some hackers clean them out.

--
Spud

On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 05:24:19PM +0000, d wrote:

I could put up with a short queue to renew a paper travelcard once a week or
month if it saves me hassle every single time I go through a gate.

Which is why I use a paper travelcard. It has loads of other advantages
too, such as having the expiry date printed on it so I don't have to
remember some random date to renew it, and not having to go to a TfL
station to sort out any problems.

--
David Cantrell
Professor of Unvironmental Science
University of Human Progress

On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 05:26:43PM +0000, d wrote:
Recliner wrote:
So keep the card(s) outside the wallet, just as you'd have done with any
older technology cards.
Is that supposed to be a serious suggestion? Perhaps you haven't quite grasped
the concept of a "wallet". Here, this might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallet

Back in the good old days I expect you used something like this for your
ticket:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0049N99J2

and something like this for your money/credit cards/etc:
http://www.johnlewis.com/i-like-pie/p459704

HTH. HAND.

--
David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

Today's previously unreported paraphilia is tomorrow's Internet sensation

On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:02:17 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 05:26:43PM +0000, d wrote:
Recliner wrote:
So keep the card(s) outside the wallet, just as you'd have done with any
older technology cards.
Is that supposed to be a serious suggestion? Perhaps you haven't quite
grasped
the concept of a "wallet". Here, this might help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallet

Back in the good old days I expect you used something like this for your
ticket:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0049N99J2

and something like this for your money/credit cards/etc:
http://www.johnlewis.com/i-like-pie/p459704

HTH. HAND.

Err no. Back in the day I managed to fit a paper ticket in my wallet.
Obviously you found this a problem and so assume everyone else did too. Sadly
I'm afraid you were the only one.

--
Spud

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:32:12 GMT, d wrote:

The machines are quite happy to dish out a one day paper travelcard. For now.
Though if you want to buy an oyster card you need to queue for the bloke in
the ticket office. I wonder if anyone in TfL has noticed the irony?

The last time I bought an Oyster card, I did it from a ticket machine.
It seemed a very useful feature not shared by many other cities. My
reading of http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14433.aspx is that this isn't
possible any more.

"Ticket machines: Top up your Oyster card with any amount of credit,
add season tickets or buy paper tickets."

So, is it possible?

Richard.

In message , at 23:02:23 on
Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Richard remarked:

The last time I bought an Oyster card, I did it from a ticket machine.

Or was it a vending machine - there are few of those around at large
London Terminus stations, selling a "Tourist Oyster".
--
Roland Perry

In message of Tue, 5 Nov
2013 23:02:23 in uk.transport.london, Richard
writes
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:32:12 GMT, d wrote:

The machines are quite happy to dish out a one day paper travelcard. For now.
Though if you want to buy an oyster card you need to queue for the bloke in
the ticket office. I wonder if anyone in TfL has noticed the irony?

The last time I bought an Oyster card, I did it from a ticket machine.
It seemed a very useful feature not shared by many other cities. My
reading of http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14433.aspx is that this isn't
possible any more.

Your reading is right. The file is wrong.
You can buy oyster cards with coinage.
You can top up with notes and credit cards
The machines which sell oyster cards do not accept notes.
I do not recall if they accept credit cards.


"Ticket machines: Top up your Oyster card with any amount of credit,
add season tickets or buy paper tickets."

So, is it possible?

Yes.
--
Walter Briscoe

On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 02:30:56 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 23:02:23 on
Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Richard remarked:

The last time I bought an Oyster card, I did it from a ticket machine.

Or was it a vending machine - there are few of those around at large
London Terminus stations, selling a "Tourist Oyster".

I've seen those, at Heathrow I think, but this one was a normal
machine, one of the smaller (narrower) ones as Walter notes in another
answer (thanks).

I don't think there's much more I could ask of TfL about this. The
cards are available at stations from people and machines and in
hundreds -- at least -- of shops, and for tourists also sold on some
airlines and Eurostar (it would make sense for hotels to sell them).
The arms' length that most TOCs keep is hardly TfL's fault.

On travels abroad, and especially at home in Oxford, getting a card
_can_ be a pain (Paris has newsagents, etc. but people in stations
generally don't sell anything any more; Brussels only has staff at a
tiny proportion of stations, etc., etc... But at least neither of
those cities eat credit and then cancel like Oxford).

Richard.