On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:38:22 +0000, Mizter T
wrote:
I'm not sure all banks are issuing them, and even if they do they
won't
necessarily issue them to every category of customer.

People said that of Chip and Pin.

Neil

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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:01:17 +0000, David Walters
wrote:
I generally agree with you but there are lots of tickets that can
currently only be bought from a ticket office. As an example can I
get
a £2 travelcard for a child travelling with me while I use my Gold
Card
from any machines?

I don't know, but adding them is a simple software matter.

10 years ago people on here rubbished the idea of station ticket
machines issuing tickets to all destinations from that station.
Oops.

Neil

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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:02:52 +0100, "tim......"
wrote:
can you do this?

No, but again a simple software matter to add the facility. The data
is there as it can be seen on screen.

AIUI only available with registered cards, which mine is not (and
now never
will be)

Your loss...

Neil

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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:04:59 +0000, David Cantrell
wrote:
I wonder how they're going to cope with Oyster problems - the only
thing
I use a tube ticket office for these days. eg, sorting out things
like
"This card has stopped working, please give me a new one and
transfer my
balance". And of course "I don't want this card any more, give me
back
the balance and my deposit please"

1 could be done online or at a ticket machine, again just needs a
process and the software. 2 could up to a certain level be done by a
machine, or at the proposed 5ish tourist centres, or by posting it in
and receiving a refund by BACS.

Neil

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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:50:17 +0100, "tim......"
wrote:
(as well as the in station options) German
(/Italian/Belgium/Dutch/Spanish)
systems normally work on the basis of there being a prepaid
"carnet" or
strip ticket (or smart card), which you buy from manned newsagents
(etc), so
the comparison is entirely false, IMHO.

You mean like, say, Oyster?

no Oyster requires you to own a one time purchase card which has limited
supply outlets

German transit systems let you buy a paper ticket for immediate travel, from
thirs party agents


Hamburg doesn't and never has had, btw. It has a fare structure very
similar to London.

Are you sure

Long time since I was there but I'm sure that they had strip cards

tim


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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:02:52 +0100, "tim......"
wrote:
can you do this?

No, but again a simple software matter to add the facility. The data is
there as it can be seen on screen.
AIUI only available with registered cards, which mine is not (and
now never
will be)

Your loss...

It wasn't deliberate

tim

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 22/11/2013 10:07, wrote:

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:38:08 +0000, Scott
wrote:
I take it Oyster cards will still be available at retail outlets; also
the ability to add value to them. Will visitors and others you be
able to buy an Oyster card at NR main termini, either a the (NR)
ticket office or at a shop there, and at Heathrow etc?

You can now do both of these at ticket machines.

You can only add less than £5 to Oyster at a ticket stop. I don't use
the tube enough to add that much at a time.

It would still be there for when you next want to use it Colin, as
you well know.

It could be in a year's time as my wife found out.

Anyhow, you can add less than £5 at Tube ticket machines, ditto for
NR ticket machines that do Oyster top ups.

Only with exact change. Sorry, I meant to add that.

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On 22/11/2013 14:33, Neil Williams wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:38:22 +0000, Mizter T wrote:
I'm not sure all banks are issuing them, and even if they do they
won't necessarily issue them to every category of customer.

People said that of Chip and Pin.

No - Chip and PIN became a standard.

Contactless transactions inherently don't feature online authorisation
with the bank, because there isn't enough time.

I don't think that, for example, basic bank account holders will get CPC
cards because of this issue.

On 22/11/2013 15:10, wrote:

In article , (Mizter T) wrote:
[...]
You can only add less than £5 to Oyster at a ticket stop. I don't use
the tube enough to add that much at a time.

It would still be there for when you next want to use it Colin, as
you well know.

It could be in a year's time as my wife found out.

I don't know what happened with your wife, but the money stays on the card.


Anyhow, you can add less than £5 at Tube ticket machines, ditto for
NR ticket machines that do Oyster top ups.

Only with exact change. Sorry, I meant to add that.

True - though for NR (and LO) ticket machines, one can choose an amount
and receive change.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:03:41 +0100, "tim......"
wrote:
no Oyster requires you to own a one time purchase card which has
limited
supply outlets

Now issued at ticket machines and newsagents, no?

German transit systems let you buy a paper ticket for immediate
travel, from
thirs party agents

Not in Hamburg.

Are you sure

Yes.

Long time since I was there but I'm sure that they had strip cards

No, they do not and never did. Some German cities do though.

Neil

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