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NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
Anyone know please just what's involved in changing from tube to NR at
Finsbiury Park during the works there? TfL site has "the ONLY way to interchange between National Rail and Tube platforms will be to exit via Station Place and re-enter the station." An able-bodied but somewhat unfit friend is travelling to tomorrow and asked me if this involves *lots* of steps or just a tedious plod. She fails to recognise that my ignorance of station interchanges is nigh-on immaculate - as with most everything else :( -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On 2014\01\17 10:07, Robin wrote:
Anyone know please just what's involved in changing from tube to NR at Finsbiury Park during the works there? TfL site has "the ONLY way to interchange between National Rail and Tube platforms will be to exit via Station Place and re-enter the station." An able-bodied but somewhat unfit friend is travelling to tomorrow and asked me if this involves *lots* of steps or just a tedious plod. She fails to recognise that my ignorance of station interchanges is nigh-on immaculate - as with most everything else :( What journey is she doing? Would the cross-platform interchange at Highbury & Islington help? |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
What journey is she doing? Would the cross-platform interchange at
Highbury & Islington help? Without the FPK issue it would be Overground (NL Line) to Highbury & Islington; Victoria to FPK; NR to Winchmore Hill. I thought there was no FCC NR service from Highbury & Islington at weekends. (I did say but should perhaps have emphasised she is travelling tomorrow (Saturday)). -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On Friday, January 17, 2014 10:07:03 AM UTC, Robin wrote:
Anyone know please just what's involved in changing from tube to NR at Finsbiury Park during the works there? TfL site has "the ONLY way to interchange between National Rail and Tube platforms will be to exit via Station Place and re-enter the station." An able-bodied but somewhat unfit friend is travelling to tomorrow and asked me if this involves *lots* of steps or just a tedious plod. She fails to recognise that my ignorance of station interchanges is nigh-on immaculate - as with most everything else :( -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid As I know to my cost, the interchange at FPK cannot be done without stairs. At the moment, there are two flights from the tube platforms to the passageway leading to the Station Place booking hall, a bit of a plod, then a further flight from that level to a linking passageway and further stairs to NR platform level which are particularly disability-unfriendly. Would it be better for the OP's friend to change to Picc Line at FPK and travel to Southgate to be met there or take a W9 bus to Winchmore Hill Green near station. Alternatively, is there an easy way for OP's friend to reach KX to board NR train there? |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
As I know to my cost, the interchange at FPK cannot be done without
stairs. At the moment, there are two flights from the tube platforms to the passageway leading to the Station Place booking hall, a bit of a plod, then a further flight from that level to a linking passageway and further stairs to NR platform level which are particularly disability-unfriendly. I agree that's v. bad for anyone with disability but she is merely unfit. She can manage the route Paul Corfield helpfully detailed. Indeed, it'll be good for her! -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
Thank you for that. Most helpful (as usual); and all well within her
capability. Thank you too for telling me where I could have found the info. for myself. I did look; and have changed my Firefox settings so I can try to do better in the future on the NR site (although I know that's probably as credible as the dog ate my homework). I have also noted the way to get the info from the TfL site. (I was interested to compare that with where I was led to when I followed the link from Jouney Planner to the page for Finsbury Park station http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...s/1000083.aspx That tells me there is no step-free access. But it points for details only to Step-Free tube guide (which adds nothing more) or to http://www.directenquiries.com/. I gave up on the latter but encouraged (and embarrassed) by your info. I revisited it and find that after 7 (!) further clicks I can get the same answer (albeit in a prettier graphical format). -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On 2014\01\17 10:53, Robin wrote:
What journey is she doing? Would the cross-platform interchange at Highbury & Islington help? I thought there was no FCC NR service from Highbury & Islington at weekends. I did know you said tomorrow but didn't realise today was Friday ;-) |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:50:51 +0000, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:07:03 -0000, "Robin" wrote: Finsbury Park - stairs (16 and 17 steps) up from Vic Line to ramped corridor to Station Place. Turn left, walk past ticket office, enter into FCC part of station, ascend shortish staircase (12 steps) to intermediate corridor, walk along corridor to another staircase then climb more steps (13 and 14 steps) to FCC platformas 5 and 6. You can use the National Rail website and the Stations made easy facility to bring up a plan of stations and also photos of the different parts of the station. You need to load the "large plan" and then hover your cursor on the part of the layout you want to look at. http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/statio...Overview.xhtml The diagram for Finsbury Park is out of date. There are now two new platforms and the existing platforms have been renumbered. The platforms serving Winchmore Hill are now numbered 7 and 8. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
"Robin" wrote:
Thank you for that. Most helpful (as usual); and all well within her capability. Thank you too for telling me where I could have found the info. for myself. I did look; and have changed my Firefox settings so I can try to do better in the future on the NR site (although I know that's probably as credible as the dog ate my homework). I have also noted the way to get the info from the TfL site. (I was interested to compare that with where I was led to when I followed the link from Jouney Planner to the page for Finsbury Park station http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...s/1000083.aspx That tells me there is no step-free access. But it points for details only to Step-Free tube guide (which adds nothing more) or to http://www.directenquiries.com/. I gave up on the latter but encouraged (and embarrassed) by your info. I revisited it and find that after 7 (!) further clicks I can get the same answer (albeit in a prettier graphical format). I'm a bit late, but here's another idea: take the Victoria line south from H&I to KX, then catch the NR train from there. More walking, but fewer stairs. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
I'm a bit late, but here's another idea: take the Victoria line south
from H&I to KX, then catch the NR train from there. More walking, but fewer stairs. Yes, thanks. Offered that to her on the basis as there'd be no additional cost[1] albeit takes ~10 minutes longer. [1] like me is of the Freedom Pass generation - and determined to make use of it before the 2015 Election decides we are wealthy pensioners like Paul McCartney who don't need ......... If only! -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
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, at 09:03:30 on Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Recliner remarked: [Highbury to Winchmore Hill] I'm a bit late, Not for a trip on Saturday but here's another idea: take the Victoria line south from H&I to KX, then catch the NR train from there. Weekends only. More walking, but fewer stairs. Can be done step-free, but as you say quite a long walk. -- Roland Perry |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On 17/01/2014 10:07, Robin wrote:
Anyone know please just what's involved in changing from tube to NR at Finsbiury Park during the works there? TfL site has "the ONLY way to interchange between National Rail and Tube platforms will be to exit via Station Place and re-enter the station." An able-bodied but somewhat unfit friend is travelling to tomorrow and asked me if this involves *lots* of steps or just a tedious plod. She fails to recognise that my ignorance of station interchanges is nigh-on immaculate - as with most everything else :( Is an Oyster Card-trip from KX to Finsbury Park, with a transfer to the Victoria Line for Tottenham Hale one or two trips, BTW? I haven't been to Finsbury Park for a while, so I can't remember if you need to tap in or out when transferring between NR and LUL. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
As an aside Greater Anglia now have a gateline in operation at
Tottenham Hale which means everyone has to schlep out of the LU ticket hall into the cold and rain and then through the new GA gateline. The former covered connection has been closed off. Ahem, it's not always cold and raining at Tottenham Hale; it just feels like it is ;) -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
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On 17/01/2014 10:07, Robin wrote: Anyone know please just what's involved in changing from tube to NR at Finsbiury Park during the works there? TfL site has "the ONLY way to interchange between National Rail and Tube platforms will be to exit via Station Place and re-enter the station." An able-bodied but somewhat unfit friend is travelling to tomorrow and asked me if this involves *lots* of steps or just a tedious plod. She fails to recognise that my ignorance of station interchanges is nigh-on immaculate - as with most everything else :( Is an Oyster Card-trip from KX to Finsbury Park, with a transfer to the Victoria Line for Tottenham Hale one or two trips, BTW? I haven't been to Finsbury Park for a while, so I can't remember if you need to tap in or out when transferring between NR and LUL. Of course, for that particular journey, it would be better to join the Victoria Line at KX. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On 17/01/2014 22:06, Recliner wrote:
" wrote: On 17/01/2014 10:07, Robin wrote: Anyone know please just what's involved in changing from tube to NR at Finsbiury Park during the works there? TfL site has "the ONLY way to interchange between National Rail and Tube platforms will be to exit via Station Place and re-enter the station." An able-bodied but somewhat unfit friend is travelling to tomorrow and asked me if this involves *lots* of steps or just a tedious plod. She fails to recognise that my ignorance of station interchanges is nigh-on immaculate - as with most everything else :( Is an Oyster Card-trip from KX to Finsbury Park, with a transfer to the Victoria Line for Tottenham Hale one or two trips, BTW? I haven't been to Finsbury Park for a while, so I can't remember if you need to tap in or out when transferring between NR and LUL. Of course, for that particular journey, it would be better to join the Victoria Line at KX. As an example. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
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NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
Oh, FFS! Why can't they put barriers on the interchange link too? Possibly just an interim step to mitigate the congestion in the ticket hall pending the major works planned to make the ticket hall bigger etc etc [1]? I only use the station occasionally, and outside rush hours, but have been hit (sic) even then by the awful crossflow caused by the 2 sets of gates. [1] There was summat in the free London papers and Google finds for me http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tro/29279.aspx -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:43:25 +0000, Paul Corfield wrote:
FCC put ticket gates on their platforms Some of them. The new platform 1 and 2 (used by most local stopping services heading towards Moorgate and King's Cross don't have barriers for some reason. 5 and 6 also don't have barriers but very few trains use them. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
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NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
"Robin" wrote:
I'm a bit late, but here's another idea: take the Victoria line south from H&I to KX, then catch the NR train from there. More walking, but fewer stairs. Yes, thanks. Offered that to her on the basis as there'd be no additional cost[1] albeit takes ~10 minutes longer. [1] like me is of the Freedom Pass generation - and determined to make use of it before the 2015 Election decides we are wealthy pensioners like Paul McCartney who don't need ......... If only! Please let us know how she got on? |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
Please let us know how she got on?
I suppose someone had to ask ;( I've already had feedback on the lines of "changing at Finsbury Park was easy so I don't know what you were fussing about. You could have made yourself more useful by telling me which platform I needed for my train to Winchmore Hill as the station information was useless until I got to platform 7". The latter was something I thought of doing when I checked her train was on time but decided not to as I didn't want to phone and appear to fuss even more. Heh ho - just further evidence of the reach of the 3 laws of thermodynamices*. Thanks again to all for the inf/suggestions. *in the formulation (i) you can't win; (ii) you can't break even; (iii) you can't get out of the game -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On 17/01/2014 21:53, Robin wrote: As an aside Greater Anglia now have a gateline in operation at Tottenham Hale which means everyone has to schlep out of the LU ticket hall into the cold and rain and then through the new GA gateline. The former covered connection has been closed off. Ahem, it's not always cold and raining at Tottenham Hale; it just feels like it is ;) Feels like it's raining everywhere all the time at the moment! (That said, some lovely sharp winter sunshine today.) |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On 2014\01\17 21:53, Robin wrote:
As an aside Greater Anglia now have a gateline in operation at Tottenham Hale which means everyone has to schlep out of the LU ticket hall into the cold and rain and then through the new GA gateline. The former covered connection has been closed off. Ahem, it's not always cold and raining at Tottenham Hale; it just feels like it is ;) I had wondered where the name came from. |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:13:27 -0600, wrote:
In article , (David Walters) wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:43:25 +0000, Paul Corfield wrote: FCC put ticket gates on their platforms Some of them. The new platform 1 and 2 (used by most local stopping services heading towards Moorgate and King's Cross don't have barriers for some reason. 5 and 6 also don't have barriers but very few trains use them. I presume this is because the FCC barriers were put in before 1 & 2 were completed and that therefore they will be coming along soon. They were put in before 1 and 2 were started. They are actually old platforms that have been brought back into use but that has meant installing a lift, moving the stairs, new platform buildings, new platform surfaces, new signs, new CCTV, new PA etc. It seems odd that gates weren't included in all that. Is there a plan to gate the whole station which would make barriers on the platforms unnecessary? |
NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
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(David Walters) wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:13:27 -0600, wrote: In article , (David Walters) wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:43:25 +0000, Paul Corfield wrote: FCC put ticket gates on their platforms Some of them. The new platform 1 and 2 (used by most local stopping services heading towards Moorgate and King's Cross don't have barriers for some reason. 5 and 6 also don't have barriers but very few trains use them. I presume this is because the FCC barriers were put in before 1 & 2 were completed and that therefore they will be coming along soon. They were put in before 1 and 2 were started. They are actually old platforms that have been brought back into use but that has meant installing a lift, moving the stairs, new platform buildings, new platform surfaces, new signs, new CCTV, new PA etc. It seems odd that gates weren't included in all that. 1 & 2 have never been opened as platforms before. They were partly constructed before the war for the Northern Heights extension of the Northern City Line but never completed before now. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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NR-tube interchange at Finsbury Park
In article , (peter) wrote:
On 19/01/2014 17:52, wrote: In article , 1 & 2 have never been opened as platforms before. They were partly constructed before the war for the Northern Heights extension of the Northern City Line but never completed before now. Your sure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcpb9oZ6f3g Hmm. You may have a point. That island has always looked incomplete as far as I recall and that goes back to the late 1960s. Memory failure I suppose, combined with misinterpretation of the history I have read. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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