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![]() "Nick Leverton" wrote obrail I could put a letter in the posting box on the side of any TPO well after midnight, provided it was going in the right direction :-) /obrail and you'd get it postmarked with the date a day before you actually posted it, as TPOs set their date stamps on the date when the journey began, and didn't change them at midnight. There were occasions when a new stamp issue came out - some people would buy the new stamps as soon as they came out at the 24 hour post office that used to exist at Trafalgar Square, drive to Rugby (this was soon after the M1 opened) and post letters with the new stamps in a London-bound TPO. They would be rewarded with a 'day before first day cover'. Peter |
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 07:36:52 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 13/03/2014 00:21, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote: Optimist wrote: Just be grateful that we still have deliveries to everyone's front door, six days a week, across the whole country, at a standard price. In years to come, we'll look back in amazement at that level of service. Most other countries no longer offer it. I'd rather cut deliveries down to three or even two a week if it would cut the cost of postage. Sadly it probably wouldn't. And with online shopping such a key part of the Royal Mail's business there'd be fierce opposition to reducing the speed of delivery or else a decamp to incompetent couriers. Why use incompetent couriers when there are plenty of competent ones available. I find the courier firms are far superior to RM for customer service. They actually answer the phone when you ring the number on the card to say they have a package for you but you were out. They will leave in the porch or elsewhere if you wish. RM put a card through the door instead of trying to deliver the package, when you ring they don't answer, they won't leave items to be collected at the local post office but at an inconvenient depot on an industrial estate. |
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, at 16:23:21 on Wed, 12 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked: In 1970 I could post a letter at the main post office in Oxford up to midnight and it would be delivered in South East London at breakfast time. And now you can send an email, text, tweet, IM, DM, usenet post, etc, usually for little or no charge, and have it delivered anywhere in the world in seconds. With that sort of competition, no-one's going to pay for the huge network of people, sorting offices and vans that would be needed to maintain the old style of physical mail services, that delivered locally in hours, from a previous era. Vans? It was all bikes and Shank's pony. Even today a lot of postmen buy their own cars and use those to get to their delivery patch earlier, Royal Mail doesn't buy them vans. (Let's not get confused with Parcelforce). -- Roland Perry |
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, at 04:32:07 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked: Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend where you are on the round. So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people think they aren't getting as good a service any more. Because technology has overtaken them. Get real! Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to deliver so late in the day. Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or have another consignment delivered to them). They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a second round for an absentee). -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 04:32:07 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked: Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend where you are on the round. So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people think they aren't getting as good a service any more. Because technology has overtaken them. Get real! Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to deliver so late in the day. Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or have another consignment delivered to them). They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a second round for an absentee). But it explains why deliveries are much later now than the previous first post (of two or more). Effectively, they work an eight hour day, starting at about 6:30am in the local sorting office. |
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Graeme Wall wrote:
I'd rather cut deliveries down to three or even two a week if it would cut the cost of postage. Sadly it probably wouldn't. And with online shopping such a key part of the Royal Mail's business there'd be fierce opposition to reducing the speed of delivery or else a decamp to incompetent couriers. Why use incompetent couriers when there are plenty of competent ones available. Cost and the buyer rather than the sender is the one who experiences the problems. For me the main annoyances are the need to put yourself under virtual house arrest when expecting a delivery and it still doesn't come, the inability to put together a decent flat delivery service (some of them don't even know how to buzz the reception or phone the number supplied), the failure to come at the times stated, the remote depots that are hard to reach on public transport and have terrible opening hours, the ludicrously excessive requirements for ID and proof of address when you can get in, the premium rate phone numbers and the fines sent to senders because the firm is incompetent. -- My blog: http://adf.ly/4hi4c |
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, at 04:56:13 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked: Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to deliver so late in the day. Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or have another consignment delivered to them). They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a second round for an absentee). But it explains why deliveries are much later now than the previous first post (of two or more). Effectively, they work an eight hour day, starting at about 6:30am in the local sorting office. Are you saying I'm just unlucky in getting my post at noon (consistently over the last three places I've lived), rather than at perhaps 8am, by being on the 'wrong end' of the route? -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 04:56:13 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked: Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to deliver so late in the day. Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or have another consignment delivered to them). They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a second round for an absentee). But it explains why deliveries are much later now than the previous first post (of two or more). Effectively, they work an eight hour day, starting at about 6:30am in the local sorting office. Are you saying I'm just unlucky in getting my post at noon (consistently over the last three places I've lived), rather than at perhaps 8am, by being on the 'wrong end' of the route? Probably. My M-F mail typically arrives before 10am, and Saturdays around 9am. But you do get the odd day when it's much later. I'm not near the mail depot, so I'm sure some people get theirs much earlier. |
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