On Fri, 23 May 2014 08:03:28 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:27:16 on
Thu, 22 May 2014, David Walters remarked:
And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or
charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the
UK, please check with your card issuer."

Most of the cards I have (from the US and France and Canada, not just
the UK) charge about 3% extra for transactions other than in their own
currency.

But what's the definition of a "transaction"... just the total at the
end of the day, or every time you swipe a barrier [which arguably
charges the card about £9 when you swipe in, and makes an appropriate
refund of approx £0-£7 when you swipe out, depending how far away the
two places are].

It's the total cost of all the travel made in a day.

That's not so bad then. 3% of £7 is only 21p, and that sort of amount is
going to be lost in the noise of the currency conversion.

On a related topic about currency - when are TfL planning to upgrade
ticket machines to accept notes from elsewhere in the UK now they're getting
rid of ticket offices? Or is everyone supposed to go to a bank to change
their scottish/NI/channel islands notes first if they don't want to use a card?

--
Spud

d wrote on 23 May 2014 13:03:48 ...
On Fri, 23 May 2014 08:03:28 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:27:16 on
Thu, 22 May 2014, David Walters remarked:
And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or
charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the
UK, please check with your card issuer."

Most of the cards I have (from the US and France and Canada, not just
the UK) charge about 3% extra for transactions other than in their own
currency.

But what's the definition of a "transaction"... just the total at the
end of the day, or every time you swipe a barrier [which arguably
charges the card about £9 when you swipe in, and makes an appropriate
refund of approx £0-£7 when you swipe out, depending how far away the
two places are].

It's the total cost of all the travel made in a day.

That's not so bad then. 3% of £7 is only 21p, and that sort of amount is
going to be lost in the noise of the currency conversion.

On a related topic about currency - when are TfL planning to upgrade
ticket machines to accept notes from elsewhere in the UK now they're getting
rid of ticket offices? Or is everyone supposed to go to a bank to change
their scottish/NI/channel islands notes first if they don't want to use a card?

Yes. Scottish and NI notes are not legal tender in England AFAIK. The
Channel Islands are not even part of the UK. If TfL want to upgrade the
ticket machines, it would make more sense to accept Euro notes.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

"Richard J." wrote

Yes. Scottish and NI notes are not legal tender in England AFAIK.

They are legal currency, though not legal tender. In Scotland no banknotes
(neither Scottish nor BoE) are legal tender.

Peter

On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:11:43 +0100
"Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 23 May 2014 13:03:48 ...
On a related topic about currency - when are TfL planning to upgrade
ticket machines to accept notes from elsewhere in the UK now they're getting
rid of ticket offices? Or is everyone supposed to go to a bank to change
their scottish/NI/channel islands notes first if they don't want to use a
card?

Yes. Scottish and NI notes are not legal tender in England AFAIK. The
Channel Islands are not even part of the UK. If TfL want to upgrade the
ticket machines, it would make more sense to accept Euro notes.

Channel Islands notes along with scottish , NI & IoM notes are still legal
tender since they are Pound Stirling. Apparently Gibralter is the odd one out
and I'm not sure why. But you make a good point about Euro notes - that would
be especially useful at St P. though some scots I know would appreciate the
machines at Kings X to accept scottish notes. Somehow however I doubt the
issue has even occured to TfL.

--
Spud

On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:50:48 +0100
"Peter Masson" wrote:
"Richard J." wrote

Yes. Scottish and NI notes are not legal tender in England AFAIK.

They are legal currency, though not legal tender. In Scotland no banknotes
(neither Scottish nor BoE) are legal tender.

Semantics. They are Stirling banknotes that can be legally accepted for
payment of debt.

--
Spud

wrote in message ...


Channel Islands notes along with scottish , NI & IoM notes are still legal
tender since they are Pound Stirling. Apparently Gibralter is the odd one
out
and I'm not sure why. But you make a good point about Euro notes - that
would
be especially useful at St P. though some scots I know would appreciate
the
machines at Kings X to accept scottish notes. Somehow however I doubt the
issue has even occured to TfL.

--
Spud

Scottish notes are not legal tender see
http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php

Richard

On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:35:54 +0000 (UTC),
d wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:50:48 +0100
"Peter Masson" wrote:
"Richard J." wrote

Yes. Scottish and NI notes are not legal tender in England AFAIK.

They are legal currency, though not legal tender. In Scotland no banknotes
(neither Scottish nor BoE) are legal tender.

Semantics. They are Stirling banknotes that can be legally accepted for
payment of debt.

I knew about Scottish banknotes, but does the city of Stirling have
its own, too?