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Mizter T June 4th 14 10:32 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5 in 2008!

Recliner[_2_] June 4th 14 10:42 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5 in 2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months. I'm not
sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will be
transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then be rebuilt
in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as the number for the
new terminal for the third runway.

[email protected] June 4th 14 12:19 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months. I'm not
sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will be
transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then be
rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as the
number for the new terminal for the third runway.


Terminal 1 will be closing fairly soon, AIUI.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

CJB June 4th 14 02:39 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
And once again the Heathrow Connect from Paddington to / from Heathrow was cancelled - yet another strike? CJB.

Recliner[_2_] June 4th 14 02:48 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
CJB wrote:
And once again the Heathrow Connect from Paddington to / from Heathrow
was cancelled - yet another strike? CJB.


Yup, yet another RMT strike. But HEx is still running:
https://www.heathrowconnect.com/trai...ervice-updates

Peter Smyth[_2_] June 4th 14 07:09 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.


I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.

Peter Smyth

Recliner[_2_] June 4th 14 07:12 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.


I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.

Those were the names they used about a decade ago, but I've not seen them
in any recent documents.

Peter Smyth[_2_] June 4th 14 08:41 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
Recliner wrote:

"Peter Smyth" wrote:
Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates

will be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1
will then be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2,
leaving T1 as the number for the new terminal for the third runway.

I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.

Those were the names they used about a decade ago, but I've not seen
them in any recent documents.


They are still being used in Heathrow's third runway proposal.

http://www.heathrowairport.com/about...n/our-proposal

Peter Smyth

Recliner[_2_] June 4th 14 08:48 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
Recliner wrote:

"Peter Smyth" wrote:
Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates

will be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1
will then be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2,
leaving T1 as the number for the new terminal for the third runway.

I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.

Those were the names they used about a decade ago, but I've not seen
them in any recent documents.


They are still being used in Heathrow's third runway proposal.

http://www.heathrowairport.com/about...n/our-proposal

It's funny how that document doesn't mention terminals 3 and 4. I know they
have plans to extensively redevelop T3 as well, getting rid of the
old-fashioned cul de sacs that cause aircraft traffic jams, but I've not
seen any plans for how T4 will develop.

Also I think the East and West terms are project names, rather than the
names passengers will see.

Mizter T June 4th 14 08:58 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 

On 04/06/2014 21:48, Recliner wrote:
[...]
Also I think the East and West terms are project names, rather than the
names passengers will see.


Whatever happened to Rt Hon Maggie Thatchaeroport?

[email protected] June 5th 14 12:13 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
In article , (Peter Smyth) wrote:

Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.


I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.


And T4? Heathrow South?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_2_] June 5th 14 12:36 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
wrote:
In article , (Peter Smyth) wrote:

Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.


I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.


And T4? Heathrow South?


Yes, on that basis it would, with T3 becoming Heathrow Central and T6 being
Heathrow North. But I think they'll probably stick to numbers.

[email protected] June 5th 14 12:45 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
In article ,
(Peter
Smyth) wrote:

Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.

I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.


And T4? Heathrow South?


Yes, on that basis it would, with T3 becoming Heathrow Central and T6
being Heathrow North. But I think they'll probably stick to numbers.


T1 will be a spare name soon, as T2 has been recently. Radio 4 today
reported that T2 will be dubbed "Queen's Terminal".

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_2_] June 5th 14 12:53 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
wrote:
In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
In article ,
(Peter
Smyth) wrote:

Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.

I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.

And T4? Heathrow South?


Yes, on that basis it would, with T3 becoming Heathrow Central and T6
being Heathrow North. But I think they'll probably stick to numbers.


T1 will be a spare name soon, as T2 has been recently. Radio 4 today
reported that T2 will be dubbed "Queen's Terminal".


Yes, based on occupying the site of the old Queen's Building. However,
though HM will officially open it, I bet she uses it for actual journeys
less than I will.

Basil Jet[_3_] June 5th 14 04:17 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
On 2014\06\05 01:45, wrote:

Radio 4 today reported that T2 will be dubbed "Queen's Terminal".


Charles has been waiting years to hear those words!


[email protected] June 5th 14 08:35 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2014\06\05 01:45,
wrote:

Radio 4 today reported that T2 will be dubbed "Queen's Terminal".


Charles has been waiting years to hear those words!


LOL!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry June 5th 14 09:02 AM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
In message , at 19:45:05
on Wed, 4 Jun 2014, remarked:
Radio 4 today
reported that T2 will be dubbed "Queen's Terminal".


bbc.co.uk had a photo with that name prominently over the door.
--
Roland Perry

tim..... June 5th 14 06:58 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5 in
2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months. I'm not
sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will be
transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then be
rebuilt
in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as the number for
the
new terminal for the third runway.


On the basis of yesterday's flight they already have.

Had to walk for flipping miles, all through loads of (obviously) new
corridors, down (and then back up again) long escalators with windows onto
the new terminal, until we reached some point where it said T1 left, T2
right. There were staff there asking us which flight we had got off so that
they could direct us correctly (As there must be a non negligible number of
first timers on every flight that lands at LHR they are going to have to
have these staff there forever) - and then after another long walk we
arrived at the joke that is T1 immigration. As I didn't have luggage to
collect I wonder what would have happened if I had gone the wrong way!

Must have walked (well ridden a good portion) well over a mile, How can it
be possible to make a passenger flow that long inside the space the LHR
central terminals occupies unless they made us double back? This is not a
good system for the disabled/infirm. They might not have given such
concerns the time of day 40 years ago, but surely they do now, don't they?

On the plus side, the fact that the United arrival had been moved meant that
there wasn't a huge snake for the Non EU section of immigration so they
served all comers and the queue cleared in a couple of minutes, not seen
that in the past 12 months

tim




Recliner[_2_] June 5th 14 08:05 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
"tim....." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
...
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5 in 2008!


Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months. I'm not
sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will be
transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then be rebuilt
in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as the number for the
new terminal for the third runway.


On the basis of yesterday's flight they already have.

Had to walk for flipping miles, all through loads of (obviously) new
corridors, down (and then back up again) long escalators with windows
onto the new terminal, until we reached some point where it said T1 left,
T2 right. There were staff there asking us which flight we had got off
so that they could direct us correctly (As there must be a non negligible
number of first timers on every flight that lands at LHR they are going
to have to have these staff there forever) - and then after another long
walk we arrived at the joke that is T1 immigration. As I didn't have
luggage to collect I wonder what would have happened if I had gone the wrong way!

Must have walked (well ridden a good portion) well over a mile, How can
it be possible to make a passenger flow that long inside the space the
LHR central terminals occupies unless they made us double back? This is
not a good system for the disabled/infirm. They might not have given
such concerns the time of day 40 years ago, but surely they do now, don't they?

On the plus side, the fact that the United arrival had been moved meant
that there wasn't a huge snake for the Non EU section of immigration so
they served all comers and the queue cleared in a couple of minutes, not
seen that in the past 12 months


You must have arrived at the satellite pier that's temporarily shared
between T1 and T2; it'll soon be part of T2 only, when the walks will be
much shorter. Basically, they started using some of T2's new gates in a
satellite pier before the terminal building itself was opened, by
connecting it to T1. More of T1‘s older piers will also switch across to T2
soon, once the flights they serve have moved.

[email protected] June 5th 14 09:57 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
On 05/06/2014 01:36, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
In article , (Peter Smyth) wrote:

Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.

I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.


And T4? Heathrow South?


Yes, on that basis it would, with T3 becoming Heathrow Central and T6 being
Heathrow North. But I think they'll probably stick to numbers.

This means that TfL will have to go through the effort of renaming Tube
Stations, reprogramming Sonia, as well as replacing signs and
destinations indicators. The same will apply for busses.

Recliner[_2_] June 5th 14 10:09 PM

Heathrow's new Terminal 2 opened this morning
 
" wrote:
On 05/06/2014 01:36, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
In article , (Peter Smyth) wrote:

Recliner wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27691651

Thankfully a bit more low-key than the 'triumphant' opening of T5
in 2008!

Yes, they're sensibly phasing it in gradually over several months.
I'm not sure of the plans for T1 after this -- some of its gates will
be transferred to the new T2, but I assume the rest of T1 will then
be rebuilt in phases. I think it'll all be called T2, leaving T1 as
the number for the new terminal for the third runway.

I think ultimately it will be called Heathrow East, with T5 becoming
Heathrow West.

And T4? Heathrow South?


Yes, on that basis it would, with T3 becoming Heathrow Central and T6 being
Heathrow North. But I think they'll probably stick to numbers.

This means that TfL will have to go through the effort of renaming Tube
Stations, reprogramming Sonia, as well as replacing signs and
destinations indicators. The same will apply for busses.


Yes, those are some of the many reasons to stick with numbers as far as
passengers are concerned. Another would be that it's easier for non-English
speakers to look for terminal numbers rather than names. The numbers are
more concise, too. For example, the T5 satellites are called T5B and T5C,
which is much better than West Terminal B and C.

A further one is that geographic directions are already used within
terminals. For example, I like to use the BA North rather than South
Galleries Club lounge in T5; it would be confusing if there were also North
and South terminals.


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