Journey planner having a fit
 

wrote on 27 June 2014 11:51:33 ...
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 10:48:33 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, Richard J. remarked:
I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because the
Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

The TfL journey planner will handle Ely. Just enter From "Ely",
station or stop in "Ely".

Good grief. I'd have tried "in... Cambs". Got nothing, and assumed it
didn't go out that far.

There's something about the way the TfL planner works that I simply
don't get on with (see recent discussion about typing in "Kings
Cross" and being offered things like Kingsbury/Blackbird Cross).

I know what you mean. I still haven't worked out what to type it to stop it
asking me if I mean Caledonian Road or something.

It does expect you to spell things properly. Type King's Cross. The
lack of an apostrophe is your problem.

The new Journey Planner interface at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/ is much better in this regard.
You have only to type Kin and you get options that include King's Cross
Rail Station and King's Cross St Pancras.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Journey planner having a fit
 

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
09:26:20 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014, remarked:
It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London
based
upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]
...
Gone now, on FCC at least.

The barrier free interchange, or the through ticketing?

The barrier-free interchange I know. The ticketing I can't comment on
though
I thought all or most through tickets from LU to NR destinations had
ended?

The point will be moot when the TOs shut

I'm pretty certain that you can't buy them at the Machines

tim



--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 09:26:20 on
Fri, 27 Jun 2014, remarked:
It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London based
upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]
...
Gone now, on FCC at least.

The barrier free interchange,

Oh how stupid of me

The barrier free access of which I speak was from the Moorgate-FP shuttle
which IIRC ran into the ground level platforms?

So in theory it's still there, but it's no longer a tube line

tim

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article ,
(tim.....) wrote:

wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Roland Perry) wrote:

In message , at
09:26:20 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014, remarked:
It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London
based upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park
[1]
...
Gone now, on FCC at least.

The barrier free interchange, or the through ticketing?

The barrier-free interchange I know. The ticketing I can't comment on
though I thought all or most through tickets from LU to NR destinations
had ended?

The point will be moot when the TOs shut

I'm pretty certain that you can't buy them at the Machines

Not even close to interchanges, e.g. Wimbledon Park to local SWT stations?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 27 June 2014 11:51:33 ...
In article ,
(Roland Perry) wrote:

In message , at 10:48:33 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, Richard J. remarked:
I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because
the Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

The TfL journey planner will handle Ely. Just enter From "Ely",
station or stop in "Ely".

Good grief. I'd have tried "in... Cambs". Got nothing, and assumed it
didn't go out that far.

There's something about the way the TfL planner works that I simply
don't get on with (see recent discussion about typing in "Kings
Cross" and being offered things like Kingsbury/Blackbird Cross).

I know what you mean. I still haven't worked out what to type it to
stop it asking me if I mean Caledonian Road or something.

It does expect you to spell things properly. Type King's Cross. The
lack of an apostrophe is your problem.

Did that.

The new Journey Planner interface at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/ is much better in this regard.
You have only to type Kin and you get options that include King's
Cross Rail Station and King's Cross St Pancras.

Yes and no. I had the old planner still bookmarked and it still comes up
with the same nonsense. Trying the new planner, it does as you say for
King's Cross but when I put in "Moorgate", it accepted it and then asked to
choose between 5 alternatives. So it's still rubbish.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article ,
(tim.....) wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at
09:26:20 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014, remarked:
It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London
based upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park
[1]
...
Gone now, on FCC at least.

The barrier free interchange,

Oh how stupid of me

The barrier free access of which I speak was from the Moorgate-FP
shuttle which IIRC ran into the ground level platforms?

So in theory it's still there, but it's no longer a tube line

Of course! Yes, there is still barrier-free access between deep-level
platforms at Highbury & Islington.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 21:19:49 on Thu, 26 Jun
2014, MikeS remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...

SNIP
What's wrong with expecting the official one-stop-shop journey planner to
give me the right answer?

--
Roland Perry

The National Rail Enquiries journey planner mostly works fine for rail
journies through London requiring a tube connection between two national
rail stations. It rarely gives the easiest (or even a sensible) route if you
specify a national rail destination in London for which the best option is a
rail journey to another rail station followed by the tube. I have no idea if
this is a fault or by design (assuming that if you specify a national rail
destination you want to arrive at it by national rail). I have never
expected to use it in the way you describe any more than I would expect it
to tell me the correct use of a bus in some other city when completing a
journey by national rail is possible but not a sensible option.

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The new Journey Planner interface at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/ is much better in this
regard. You have only to type Kin and you get options that include
King's Cross Rail Station and King's Cross St Pancras.

Yes and no. I had the old planner still bookmarked and it still comes
up with the same nonsense. Trying the new planner, it does as you say
for King's Cross but when I put in "Moorgate", it accepted it and
then asked to choose between 5 alternatives. So it's still rubbish.

I also notice that the old planner won't cover National Rail outside London
like Cambridge, while the old one does.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Journey planner having a fit
 

wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The new Journey Planner interface at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/ is much better in this
regard. You have only to type Kin and you get options that include
King's Cross Rail Station and King's Cross St Pancras.

Yes and no. I had the old planner still bookmarked and it still comes
up with the same nonsense. Trying the new planner, it does as you say
for King's Cross but when I put in "Moorgate", it accepted it and
then asked to choose between 5 alternatives. So it's still rubbish.

I also notice that the old planner won't cover National Rail outside London
like Cambridge, while the old one does.

Er, which does?

Journey planner having a fit
 

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The new Journey Planner interface at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey/ is much better in this
regard. You have only to type Kin and you get options that
include King's Cross Rail Station and King's Cross St Pancras.

Yes and no. I had the old planner still bookmarked and it still
comes up with the same nonsense. Trying the new planner, it does as
you say for King's Cross but when I put in "Moorgate", it accepted
it and then asked to choose between 5 alternatives. So it's still
rubbish.

Oops! new of course
I also notice that the old planner won't cover National Rail outside
^
London like Cambridge, while the old one does.

In fact the /new/ planner does get places outside London but you have to
persuade it to offer the option.

--
Colin Rosenstiel